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[onlyonesock]

I wonder what they originally intended for Legion. He has all this dialog from parts where you aren't supposed to get him. Also, he was in the "Enemies" trailer, and Bioware made it seem like we would fight him, but he wasn't really an enemy.

[xSolclaim]

They intended you to find him early(er) I think and there to be a paragon/renagade check and if you failed, you woulnt get him as a team you would have to fight him, also note the achevement freind or foe

[xSolclaim]

Nissun wrote...

Yeah, I know. I was speaking, in general, in many sci-fi stories. Specifically in the case of robots, referencing Asimov at some point, for example, is inevitable.

Though I find the geth VERY different from what Asimov wrote about robots, and they are more like... I don't know, different. That's why I like them, and Legion, so much.

 oh your post came off slightly diffrent but thats okay and i agree hes something unique, and the geth themselves, are there not like other robots, in most movies, or books. There a refreshing and welcome change, and the twise to get a geth teamate, was also a very nice change of pace.

[xSolclaim]

xSolclaim wrote...

They intended you to find him early(er) I think and there to be a paragon/renagade check and if you failed, you woulnt get him as a team you would have to fight him, also note the achevement freind or foe

He was supposed to be visualy stalking you throught the game aswell, and they had a whole diffrent approach on him, dont know why they scrapped it time? maby wanting everybody to have hime regardless, though you can still send him to cerb.
Edit clicked quote instead, of edit, my bad

Modifié par xSolclaim, 14 février 2010 - 04:10 .

[onlyonesock]

Maybe we could have a DLC / expansion about what Legion was doing while Shepard was recruiting.

[xSolclaim]

^actually thats a cool idea, he mentions, at the begging he was on all the planets you went ot even the uncharted ones untill he found your ship wreck

[Forest03]

I also propose a DLC where we get to play Legion in his search for Shepard. A playthrough of the derelict Reaper from Legion's point of view would be quite interesting. What exactly was he doing there anyway? We know that one of Legion's goals was to find Shepard, but he was already ahead of the Commander at this point. It would be cool to see how and when Legion learned of the dead Reaper's location and his reason for being there. We'd get to save Shepard's hide a few times with a little sniping, and then the end would be a blackout after having being overwhelmed by husks

Modifié par Forest03, 14 février 2010 - 05:41 .

[xSolclaim]

Forest03 wrote...

I also propose a DLC where we get to play Legion in his search for Shepard. A playthrough of the derelict Reaper from Legion's point of view would be quite interesting. What exactly was he doing there anyway? We know that one of Legion's goals was to find Shepard, but he was already ahead of the Commander at this point. It would be cool to see how and when Legion learned of the dead Reaper's location and his reason for being there. We'd get to save Shepard's hide a few times with a little sniping, and then the end would be a blackout after having being overwhelmed by husks

He was there to do with finding out how to repurpose the virus for the heretics and make them like legion not to look for Shepard-commander. He somewhat gave up his search after not finding his body at the normandy wreckage

[Forest03]

^ Legion was not even informed of the virus['s completion] until he and Shepard are on the [Heretic] station. Rewriting the Heretics becomes a second option only at that point. Also, the Geth are constantly monitoring "the organics' transmissions". They not only learned of Shepard's death, they would also have learned of his reappearance.

[Addendums]

Nevermind. I had to find out for myself to be sure. Good thing I had a save file prior to boarding the Heretic station. The only reference to the virus in the dialogue at the start of that mission is that it Legion did not know of its completion. I'll have to recheck Legion's dialog after he is activated.

I activated him and rescued the crew immediately. I found out after choosing to continue that there's still more of Legion's dialogue I haven't even initiated. '

Modifié par Forest03, 14 février 2010 - 06:33 .

[fateofman]

legion

[xSolclaim]

Forest03 wrote...

^ Legion was not even informed of the virus until he and Shepard are on the old Quarian station. Rewriting the Heretics becomes a second option only at that point.

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He says that the virus is just completed, when we arive there. He knew about it but it wasent ready or something so he never mentioned it. He was at the reaper ship mostly for that reason were lead to belive. it dosent all make scense legion is  a hard one to follow, but if I remeber thats what his dialouge says.

[Forest03]

^ Yep. Had to reload another save file. This character sure has a large number of dialog strings.

Ugh. [deletes messy information]

Modifié par Forest03, 14 février 2010 - 06:54 .

[Alex109222]

i want more of this

[x75flames]

Wow, this thread was able to stay up without us, I'm proud.

But Legion went to the stanio not knowing that the viruse was completed, the he comes upwith the idea to reporpose it. The staion is not Quaran, it was made by the Heretics, "Geth belive windows are a strucual weakness, we do not us them"

[xSolclaim]

Hey x75 WB, 
Or should i have said, We Welcome unit, x75, back to this thread

Modifié par xSolclaim, 14 février 2010 - 07:03 .

[Forest03]

Updated with further clarificatiion and xSolclaim's own additions 02 14, 15:28EST

Mini Chronology

-- In exchange for waging war on organics, Sovereign offers the Geth Reaper technology. Legion later refers to Reapers as "the old machines", and to the upgraded Geth as "Heretics".
-- Shepard leads the war against Sovereign
-- Legion's platform is built and installed with 1183 processes (of which 1144 are high level) to search for Shepard, the only organic to have killed one of the "Old Machines", Sovereign.
-- Shepard's trail leads Legion to Eden Prime, Feros, Noveria, Virmire, Ilos and a dozen uncharted worlds, only to  end at Normandy crash site in amada system of the omega nebula
-- Geth, while "monitoring organics' transmissions", learn of Shepard's death
-- During his search of the Normandy crash site, Legion uses a piece of N7 armor to repair himself.

-- [2 years pass]

-- Using Reaper technology given by Sovereign, the Heretics design a virus that will make all Geth "worship the old machines".
-- In order to understand and rewrite the virus, Legion is sent to the derelict Reaper to extract data from its core
-- Shepard encounters and rescues Legion on the dead Reaper, then procedes to reactivate him on the Normandy SR-2 .
-- Legion has "no data available" as to why the N7 armor was chosen for self-repair, only claiming "There was a hole".
-- Legion and Shepard go to Heretic headquarters station, where the virus is kept in a "quantum storage device" and therefore must be destroyed.
-- Legion is informed that the virus is complete, provides Shepard with an alternative to destroying the station
-- Shepard chooses to release the virus and rewrite the Heretics/Or to destroy Heretics.

Note: If chosen as Tech specialist, Legion is a potential casualty of Collector rocket fire at the doorway.

Potential Plot Elements In ME3

-- results of releasing altered virus/Or derstroying geth heretics.
-- legion's participation and role in the story and quarian/ geth war

Modifié par Forest03, 14 février 2010 - 08:31 .

[xSolclaim]

Edit it and the op are cleaned and working I dont belive much further change is needed.

Modifié par xSolclaim, 14 février 2010 - 09:10 .

[Forest03]

^ Yep, go ahead. I just added a bit more detail, but I wanted it to be as condensed as possible. For more information, we can always post a link to a dialog database.

[EchoTango]

/signed





Legion rocks

[x75flames]

Forest03 wrote...

Mini Chronology:

-- Sovereign rewrites the Geth, turning many into Heretics who then wage war on all organics
-- Shepard leads the war against Sovereign
-- Legion's platform is built, installed with 1183 processes (of which 1144 are high level) to search for Shepard, the only organic to have killed one of the "Old Machines", Sovereign
-- Geth, while "monitoring organics' transmissions", learn of Shepard's death
-- During his search of the Normandy crash site uses a piece of N7 armor to repair himself. "There was a hole".

-- [2 years pass]

-- Legion is sent to derelict Reaper core to extract the same type of code Sovereign used to reprogram the Geth into Heretics, which in turn aids to alter the virus itself
-- Shepard encounters, rescues, reactivates Legion
-- Legion has "no data available" as to why the N7 armor was chosen for self-repair
-- Legion and Shepard go to Heretic headquarters station, where the virus employed by Sovereign is kept by the Heretics in a "quantum storage device" that, as such, must be destroyed
-- Legion is informed that the virus is complete, provides Shepard with an alternative to destroying the station
-- Shepard chooses to release the virus and rewrite the Heretics

-- [potential elements in ME3]

-- results of releasing altered virus
-- legion's participation and role (well, if he gets destroyed in your Suicide run, that's your problem)

This is more for myself. I was going through Legion's chronology, so I thought I might as well write it down. Feel free to correct and expand where necessary.

Add to OP?

[xSolclaim]

x75flames wrote...

Forest03 wrote...

Mini Chronology:

-- Sovereign rewrites the Geth, turning many into Heretics who then wage war on all organics
-- Shepard leads the war against Sovereign
-- Legion's platform is built, installed with 1183 processes (of which 1144 are high level) to search for Shepard, the only organic to have killed one of the "Old Machines", Sovereign
-- Geth, while "monitoring organics' transmissions", learn of Shepard's death
-- During his search of the Normandy crash site uses a piece of N7 armor to repair himself. "There was a hole".

-- [2 years pass]

-- Legion is sent to derelict Reaper core to extract the same type of code Sovereign used to reprogram the Geth into Heretics, which in turn aids to alter the virus itself
-- Shepard encounters, rescues, reactivates Legion
-- Legion has "no data available" as to why the N7 armor was chosen for self-repair
-- Legion and Shepard go to Heretic headquarters station, where the virus employed by Sovereign is kept by the Heretics in a "quantum storage device" that, as such, must be destroyed
-- Legion is informed that the virus is complete, provides Shepard with an alternative to destroying the station
-- Shepard chooses to release the virus and rewrite the Heretics

-- [potential elements in ME3]

-- results of releasing altered virus
-- legion's participation and role (well, if he gets destroyed in your Suicide run, that's your problem)

This is more for myself. I was going through Legion's chronology, so I thought I might as well write it down. Feel free to correct and expand where necessary.

Add to OP?

Just spent over 20 minutes. Editing it improving it and putting it to fit into the OP and i hit Send to relize that my OP was to long and it wasent excepted, time for round 2
Edit: its in now

Modifié par xSolclaim, 14 février 2010 - 07:30 .

[x75flames]

^ Well that suck, I'm off to play ME2, by now. "Hold the line!"

[Torhagen]

Forest03 wrote...

^ Legion was not even informed of the virus['s completion] until he and Shepard are on the [Heretic] station. Rewriting the Heretics becomes a second option only at that point. Also, the Geth are constantly monitoring "the organics' transmissions". They not only learned of Shepard's death, they would also have learned of his reappearance.

When you recruit Legion he will tell you that he was aboard the "Old machine" to understand the data storage module Nazara gave to the heretics.

When you choose the renegade answer in the dialog he will tell that you have to hurry because the Virus is complete

[Vaenier]

Soverign doesnt rewrite the geth, he simply provideds them a future, and many willingly follow him. otherwise, your timeline is excelent

[xSolclaim]

Vaenier wrote...

Soverign doesnt rewrite the geth, he simply provideds them a future, and many willingly follow him. otherwise, your timeline is excelent

He dose infact, He frists convinces them inthen he programs them not to have free thought and think he is wrong. Like saren At first its his choice then he is changed so he cant think its wrong. Soverign rewrites the geth  after they chose to follow him.