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[blademaster7]

I've just seen this to be honest.

http://dragonage.bio.../awakening/faq/

So what is basically new:


- No new romance, not even the old one will continue

- Oghren is(finally) confirmed

- Cameos of Alistair, Loghain, Wynne and Anora depending on how your game turned out.

- Wade and Herren are back with new goodies

- DLC items will not be available


Thoughts?

Modifié par blademaster7, 13 février 2010 - 10:35 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Basically answers the questions regarding decisions in the first DA, which is all I care about really. I could see how the romance thing might annoy some (potentially most) people however.

[Cairsoir]

I wonder what kind of role Oghren will have.. I just love that dwarf

[Lord_Darkmoon]

This doesn't bode well for those who hope to have only the choices of their "dead warden" be imported into the addon. It seems to me you either import the character and assume he survived or you create a new one... disappointing...

[lewgiffard]

Nice find Blademaster7, cheers for sharing!
Some useful info for sure, I'm after some details on how the X360 version installs, but alas this is not addressed.

Modifié par lewgiffard, 13 février 2010 - 10:53 .

[blademaster7]

You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!

Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

Modifié par blademaster7, 13 février 2010 - 10:45 .

[--Master of All--]

I wouldn't be too sure about that, we're not talking about Commander Shepard, here. The identity of "The Warden" is so loosely defined that they kind of end up being just a generic hero in the lore of the game. Easily replacable, IMO.

[Onyx Jaguar]

blademaster7 wrote...

You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!

Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

I kind of hope not, if that is what they intended they should have forced that into the story.  I mean it would be like giving the option to let Denerim fall or hold back at Redcliffe/ send a smaller force, they didn't give us that because the army was suppose to go to Denerim.  If it changes it was short sighted on the part of the writers and dissapointing.  I have a feeling I'll like how their "other" current series handled its story telling better in the long run if they end up taking the easy way out for DA.

[Ponce de Leon]

Happy, very happy about all of it actually. Was actually hoping for more cameos of the old character, but still, I see some funny dialogues with Wade... I love that guy

[Lord_Darkmoon]

blademaster7 wrote...

You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!

Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

But then Origin having multiple endings would be totally pointless. If they go with one canon ending DAO should only have one ending.

I don't want to play with a dead character, but I thought the ultimate sacrifice was a fitting end to my hero. The story can continue with another hero though but in a world which the old hero defined with his decisions.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Lord_Darkmoon wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!

Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

But then Origin having multiple endings would be totally pointless. If they go with one canon ending DAO should only have one ending.

I don't want to play with a dead character, but I thought the ultimate sacrifice was a fitting end to my hero. The story can continue with another hero though but in a world which the old hero defined with his decisions.

I will say that the canon ending (the one that everyone gets) should suffice.  Anything else should have an influence but not an astronomical impact to the story.  I mean lets not turn this into Fable here, already in that game my children will rule in the third even though I didn't have any.

[TheLion36]

Not sure to be happy or not, most of it is good news but some things are a bit worrying... For one the DLC items not carrying over is a bit silly, considering all other items carry over I don't see why these should not carry over especially since we paid for the items just as much as the content. I can imagine they do it because DLC items can be added even after the release of Awakening but then I would think it would make more sense to at least carry the major items over from the DLCs pre-awakening release... However I guess I can live with that.

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening?
Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.

This I'm not happy about... Unless they've worded that explanation a bit odd. I understand that Morrigan won't be in my party or that I won't see her, but if I romanced Leliana (I know she's not mentioned in the list of cameos but that doesn't fully exclude her) or Alistair I would expect them to treat my character like their lover and not just a regular friend.

blademaster7 wrote...
You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!
Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

I don't think this would be a smart move, it would basically eliminate the whole idea behind the choices. Taking the ritual or not taking the ritual is quite a major plot decision, so just canoning that everyone took the ritual would be a silly move on Biowares side... Not taking the ritual doesn't mean death however there are other options for the warden to live and yes they might stop importing dead wardens at a certain point.

Modifié par TheLion36, 13 février 2010 - 11:34 .

[Knal1991]

so no dlc items will transfer, including promo stuff..... so basically....all items that are worth something dissapear...anyone else think this sucks.... >_> I can see the dlc for awakening being a recycle of old dlc stuff... you can't have warden commanders plate in awakening! unless you purchase this DLC!

How hard can it be to make the items compatible...., also I really hope that esthetic mods, like more hairstyles, vibrant colors etc will work...

a small list of certain items you will have to say goodbye to:
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Blood dragon plate 5 piece set
warden commander set (including everything you can get from the merchants)
Starfang
Final Reason
Bergens honor
Prized cheeseknife
Nugbane
King cailans plate set
Marics sword
Cailans shield
Duncans sword
Duncans dagger
corrupted magister staff

probably missing alot of stuff in this list...
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the only thing worth to transfer are the some highlevel generic stuff/weapons, and juggernauts plate and some wade armor sets....

ah well we can only hope that awakening has those items for purchase....

Modifié par Knal1991, 13 février 2010 - 01:14 .

[Eleinehmm]

Knal1991 wrote...


ah well we can only hope that awakening has those items for purchase....

I suddenly have a great idea ( EA Style) Pay 5$ and get your stuff in Awakening

[Deception_2112]

I'm not sure DLC items will spawn in Awakenings, as far as i know when you're attaching a custom made module, there's a section in the part called "Manage modules" where you have to attach it to the singleplayer module...It's troubling though..



All my characters are in some ways modded, hair, weapons, armor, spells i'd probably look for a way around it if it doesn't work but that would be very dodgy if that was the case...



Just a question though, the FAQ says the developers suspect some content won't work and some will, which ones will work and which ones won't? Ie it would be nice to give some examples...



This puts me off Awakening a bit, it might not be worth the purchase if i can't have my armor, which i spent 2-3 months perfecting...=T

[Deception_2112]

Lord_Darkmoon wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

You fear the dark ritual ending will swoop down upon you!

Don't tell me you didn't see that coming. They're gonna force it as canon sooner or later. Maybe not in Awakening but surely in the future. Let's face it, you can't keep playing with a dead character.

But then Origin having multiple endings would be totally pointless. If they go with one canon ending DAO should only have one ending.

I don't want to play with a dead character, but I thought the ultimate sacrifice was a fitting end to my hero. The story can continue with another hero though but in a world which the old hero defined with his decisions.

You do realise if they don't force a canon it'd be incredibly difficult to make a sequel or hell anything that carries it over..

Game companies simply do not have enough money to cater for every choice that every person makes in a game, if they only had one ending you guys would be whinging about lack of choice, if they have multiple endings you whinge about them using a canon, if they cater to all multiple endings within their budget you'd whinge about how they didn't put enough depth into it.

They did that with KOTOR as well...You had two choices, they ended up picking the light side ending as the canon one. 

Importing the decisions of your dead character whilst having a new character would be difficult to implement.

[TheLion36]

Deception_2112 wrote...
You do realise if they don't force a canon it'd be incredibly difficult to make a sequel or hell anything that carries it over..

This depends on the story of the sequal I would say, there are only 2 endings that keep a warden alive and unless one of the those endings is used as the core element to the main story then its not that difficult and even if it is the core element then creative story telling can fix that too.

Deception_2112 wrote...
Importing the decisions of your dead character whilst having a new character would be difficult to implement.

This depends on what you want to import, if its just the choices like who is king etc then this should be easy to do, especially since they do it with grey wardens that lived already. Of course they have to canon some things for you in this case.

Modifié par TheLion36, 13 février 2010 - 11:52 .

[Lord_Darkmoon]

I would love to hear from Bioware what the problem with importing a dead warden is. Extracting the decisions from the last save game and then let the player create a new character can't be the problem. Maybe they didn't think about the possibility that some gamers want to carry on with the story even after their hero died and would now have to include more dialogue options etc.

[Knal1991]

also to put the talents and spell in perspective...:
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56 new spells and talents

Spells:
24 new spells including 2 specialisations

16 normal high level spell chains, I suspect they mean that they extend every chain with 1

for example:

Fire blast> flaming weapons > fireball > inferno > *new fire spell*
wintersbreath> frost weapons > cone of cold > icestorm > *new ice spell*

-That leaves a total of 16 new spells divided over 16 spell lines

-and 8 spells divided over 2 specialisations...

(or it's a complete new spell line, but I doubt that that's what they mean...)
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Talents:

-32 new talents for warrior and rogue, that means

-16 talents reserved for 4 new specialisations

the other 16 ones can be divided like this:

-every existing weapon talent tree get's one extra row.

- one complete new weapon talent tree (12 talents) and 4 talents for either warrior exclusive talents or rogue exclusive talents* , could also be that they consider it the same becuase rogue and wariior get's both the new talent tree, both rogue and warrior get's 4 ( which in actually it would mean 32 spec free talents, thus 16 each..)

- the remaining 16 talents get divided over rogue exclusive talents and warrior exclusive talents
   meaning, one extra row both rogue and warrior exclusive talents*, consisting both of 5 talents, further more adding a 5th talent for every other existing exclusive talents line,
then it would be
Rogue exclusive talents : 9
Warrior exclusive talents: 7


*(exclusive talents are like ''threathen'' and ''coup de grace'')

Youre welcome >_<

Modifié par Knal1991, 13 février 2010 - 01:12 .

[Kartaxiinha]

TheLion36 wrote...

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening?
Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.

This I'm not happy about... Unless they've worded that explanation a bit odd. I understand that Morrigan won't be in my party or that I won't see her, but if I romanced Leliana (I know she's not mentioned in the list of cameos but that doesn't fully exclude her) or Alistair I would expect them to treat my character like their lover and not just a regular friend.

 I completely agree with TheLion63 when he says (Quote above) . If they treat us like we never had a romance or an affair then the game will loose its realism…and I do think that we all like to be fully immerged in the game like it was a real event or story – that doesn’t simply fit in my point of view.

Seriously, we created these characters and the fact that it won’t take the same course
with love relationships which we had previously is a little bit frustrating (to
say the least).

To make the situation worst than not having our lover to recognise our previous love relationship the player is caught up with the fact that he cannot have another relationship in the Awakening. I mean if this could be possible I could see it as a way of “making up” for the fact that we couldn’t continue with our previous relationships. 


The other thing that does not make any sense
to me is the following:
- If a character dies in DAO and is imported afterwards to the Awakening…it shouldn’tbe up to the player to “Imagine” that he didn’t die…that’s like having a huge gap in the main story! There should be a possibility for those who died to start to play in the realm of the fade and being saved or something (like a prelude).

Anyhow…I can’t wait to buy the expansion :innocent:

Modifié par Kartaxiinha, 13 février 2010 - 12:49 .

[Mikey_205]

I hope they mean its a 5th tier on every spell line there needs to be greater rewards for specialising. I am really excited for the new spells.

[NinjaKingKiller]

WHAT THE HELL. The only good-looking armor in this game is the blood dragon armor and now I cant wear it

[Shayane]

WHAT ? no romance or possibility to continue the existing romance(s) we had in Origin

I am not at all satisfied and will reconsider my pre-order for Awakening  if you read the players comments you can see that this has been a PLUS to the game ! why take it away ???

You are making a big mistake here