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[Fexelea]

Wishpig wrote...

Fexelea wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

The argument that one cannot know how good a product is before release is getting old.

And yet it remains true.

This is not true. There have been and there will continue to be plenty of products that even the most uninformed can tell will fail and can classify as stupid/bad/lol from the first preview. An example.

Thanks for proving my point... that product may be laughible to some, but it isn't to people who need it, the handicapped and the obese.

See, you just judged a product unfairly and without doing research. You judged to quickly off limited knowledge.

YES, sometimes you can predict something will be bad and be right, BUT you can also judge unfairly and be WRONG. It happens to everyone. If you liked Dragon Age, then writing off awakaning before anyone has laid hands on the sucker is foolish and pig-headed. Wait till something substantial like reviews and feedback before making up your mind.

And I am not speaking about people who have doubts or even threaten not to buy.

I am speaking about 95% of the people who strait out say, "I'm not gonna buy because *insert point*". however, people who actually stick to their claim if the game gets good reviews and feedback are rare...

I have not proven your point in the slightest. Stating something does not make it so.

You assumptions regarding the attractiveness of a product to a certain audience do nothing to further your initial point that assessing a product's worth for ONESELF before "anyone has tried it"  is innacurate. Conversely, your reaction could be considered as proving my point, which is: if there is a personal preference factor that affects the purchase decision, there can be no rights or wrongs in arriving at that decision as it is a personal process.

Your further assumptions regarding how I arrived at any opinion and the depths of my research and/or knowledge do not discredit the veracity of my point nor increase the validity of yours.

Your attribution of percentages without any reliable backing do not validate your opinion.

Your insistance in calling people pig-headed for making a decision regarding a purchase based on a personal preference and thought process is hypocritical given you are making an assessment and decision to call such people pig-headed before you know how they arrived at their stance or "laid your hands on them" at all. (hehe)

It would be better if you abstained from stubbornly repeating a flawed argument. It makes you look pig-headed from my stance.

[Ubasti]

CybAnt1 wrote...

On the no DLC-items carryover issue: this is the one complaint I'm not sure I'm really getting.

A lot of the DlC items are Tier 1-3 and are already well superseded by non-DlC stuff by the end of the base game. But the bottom line is even the ones that are Tier 6-7will prolly be exceeded by the Tier 8-10 gear that's likely to be coming for your level 25+ character.

Are you going to miss Starfang when there are likely to be 2H swords that will be much better?

Fact is, as you start climbing into the higher levels of the expansion, your beloved DlC gear from the original game is likely to look clunky, even against "garden variety" "greens" you can probably start finding early in the new one.

Well, I updated my DLC gear to tier 7, and it is not about how useful it is, it's about the story. For example the Warden Commander Armor, my character relished it, because it reminded her of the Wardens of old. She felt like she belonged to something when wearing it. She (fem HN) also had her family sword and shield with her till the end of the game, just for comparison to the issue here. And then Duncan's swords, now those are the ones that really have meaning to her as well. That is why I would like to have them along to the expansion. But since it is no can do, I'll have to live with that. I just wait to learn more about the world and its secrets and immerse myself to the game.

Modifié par Ubasti, 14 février 2010 - 07:09 .

[Mirlam]

I'll just give my opinions here. I'm really happy to see Wade and Herren again. I also wasn't disappointed about anything. What they decided with the "Dead Warden" actually just gave me an excuse to play and see the ending again with a different choise, and now there will be no story holes and my beloved character is alive and kicking. I couldn't be happier..Ultimate Sacfirice made me depressed anyway. I wonder why I even chose it. I can only speak for myself, of course.



As for the lack of romance, I don't mind it at all. I'm not the cheating type, anyway! ;D I'm also happy that there will be at least some cameos. You know, it's still better than not anything at all.

I wasn't expecting even Wynne to show up.



I know, my overly positive attitude makes some people want to rip off my head. But I can't help it.

I'm just happy that I can go and kill ugly baddies again.

[TheLion36]

Abriael_CG wrote...
I can deal with the inability of continue romances from origins, sometimes developers feel that a fresh start is necessary for a character, and I can accept that,  but again, the complete absence of romance from the expansion is something that will reduce my enjoyment of it by about the 50%.

From what David Gaider stated its not impossible to continue romances from Origins, just not at this time. They will however be acknowledged... There is no fresh start because you don't breakup with your former romances they are just not there (except for Alistair and from what I gathered from David Gaiders statement he will act differently if you romanced him as well).
I can understand your feelings about no new romances or romances at all in Awakenings. I also loved the romances in DAO. On the other hand this could also be good news. If they would allow you to romance 2 more characters in this expansion then people will be asking for those characters to return in DA2 as well. Considering this might not be the only expansion, Bioware would end up with so many romancable characters they had to bring back in DA2 that it would be impossible to manage. Henceforth the not being romances in the expansion being a good thing, it hints at the romances of DAO returning in DA2 or some other expansion... Remember the romance between your character and the companion is not dead, you just can't move it forward in Awakening (meaning it will still be there, it will be acted out upon in the story but you can't change/improve it).

NKKKK wrote...
I mean seriosuly, if you cant continue the romance, and Alistair is appearing? Cant you at least kiss him for peep's sake?

Gaider didn't specify what you could and couldn't do, however I'm already happy if Alistair won't just treat my character as an old buddy but as his lover.
Would have been even happier if Morrigan would be in it and would treat all my characters as her lovers, but unfortunately she most likely won't make an appearance, so I'll just have to be content that the romance is at least still alive.

CybAnt1 wrote...
On the no DLC-items carryover issue: this is the one complaint I'm not sure I'm really getting.

The main issue is that we paid for those items and they're not transfering... I could understand Pre-Order items not transfering but for the DLC there is no real reason. The validation being too difficult is nonsense, for PR reasons they should just accept the items if they're in the savegame, to play the actual content you need to be in Origins where it can be validated.
I've used the Wardens Commander armor throughout most of the game, it always made sense to me to wear only one piece of armor from a realistic story point. My mage is still running around in Avernus' robes, for me its one of the best robes out there.
Even though it is dissapointing and I'm sure it'll have an effect on future DLC sales, I can live with it... That doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer to see it fixed however!

Modifié par TheLion36, 14 février 2010 - 09:16 .

[Kats_RK]

[Silensfurtim]

Modifié par Silensfurtim, 14 février 2010 - 12:25 .

[Fexelea]

Silensfurtim



LOLz

[Silensfurtim]

i inserted a 4th pic. for valentines lol

[Fexelea]

Double LOL

[Feraele]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

[...] Did you enjoy dragon age? [...]

Actually... I consider myself a fan. I have 6 complete playthroughs and according to the logs each one clocked more than 100 hours. I shouldn't be proud of saying that. It is a ridiculous time investment.

To give you an idea how much I like the game... I have written a PM to Mr Gaider last Friday to ask him how feasible it was to have an easter-egg cameo appearnce of Lellana in a ME2 DLC or ME3. I was surprised by his swift reaction. I got a response back within a couple of minutes. He figured the chances were near nil, but he suggested I should take it up with the ME team. So, I did and I am waiting for a response from them. It's weekend, so I think it will be a whle before Mr Priestly responds. However, I do think Mr Gaider is right and the chances of success are next to nothing. Still I thought it was worth to try it.

Think of it... The ME2 universe is a lonely place without the ME1 LIs. Leliana would be a fun encounter for many. And if the Blood Dragon Armor could make it, then why not Leliana? All it takes is a little blood magic, the Fade and the Mu Relay.

Thats an interesting idea...hope you get your wish.

[Feraele]

CybAnt1 wrote...

On the no DLC-items carryover issue: this is the one complaint I'm not sure I'm really getting.

A lot of the DlC items are Tier 1-3 and are already well superseded by non-DlC stuff by the end of the base game. But the bottom line is even the ones that are Tier 6-7will prolly be exceeded by the Tier 8-10 gear that's likely to be coming for your level 25+ character.

Are you going to miss Starfang when there are likely to be 2H swords that will be much better?

Fact is, as you start climbing into the higher levels of the expansion, your beloved DlC gear from the original game is likely to look clunky, even against "garden variety" "greens" you can probably start finding early in the new one.

I suppose you're right..still, myself and others considered those things as "special".    But if it can't be programmed  in, due to not everyone having bought into the dlcs,  I can see it from that viewpoint also.

Doesn't lessen the disappointment however, as I tend to recycle my "good" equipment through my other characters, once my main gets something better.  

Oh well.   I already pre-ordered some time ago, we'll see how this goes.

[Ponce de Leon]

Silensfurtim wrote...

i inserted a 4th pic. for valentines lol

BioWare should implement this dialogue, right before the start. Simply epic

[Ani77]

no romance in awakening??Thank you Bioware!
3,2 million sells but no romance options in Awakening!
What a shame

[CybAnt1]

I suppose you're right..still, myself and others considered those things as "special".   

Sure. When I played a human Noble, I kept my Family Sword till the bitter end and never sold it. It just didn't seem "right" to just sell off the family inheritance. 

However, when I found better swords I could use, I didn't keep using it, either. And that to me was not just a powergamer situation; I wasn't roleplaying someone stupid who would refuse to use a better weapon out of sentimentality, so i didn't. 

Believe me, I'm not totally happy about everything, either. The one DlC I will miss most is Shale. 

But that's what I love about the modding community: I predict very soon there will be mods to let you play the new companions in the original campaign, and keep some of the original companions in the new one. Of course, probably sans dialogue and interactions and alas no carry-forward romance dialogue.

And just as there were mods to let you take the promotional stuff without doing the promotions, coming soon: mods that will "clone" the DlC items for Awakening (although they may have to rename them slightly). 




 

[Raycer X]

After realizing some of the best weapons and armor sets won't make it to Awakening (they're from the DLC), I think I must regretfully say I won't be purchasing RTO for the PS3 if it ever comes out. I mean, it's not the waiting that bothers me, what bothers me is that I would spend money for some content that won't even be recognized or be carried over into the expansion. Also, since RTO is less than an hour or so in gameplay, coupled with the lack of mage and rogue armor (and the inability to carry over DLC items), I can't find myself wanting to purchase any future DLC for DA: Origins if they can't be brought over to Awakening. However, I will purchase Awakening since I'm more interested in the story behind the Darkspawn.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Also explains Oghren, he was the only safe character in the whole group (I couldn't find a way to kill him anyway)

You don't have to kill him. Sending him away is enough to get rid of him.

[knittzu]

Silensfurtim, you made my morning. Thank you.

[aya001]

what do you mean with no romance in awakening? NOOO, I hope you'e wrong T-T

[philippe willaume]

Silensfurtim wrote...
picies

well done sir..
the onlything i can  add to a have a good start for the advertising campaing for Awakening

Over 120 hours immersive relationship with amzingly well written virtual compagnons =======> about 30 £
fantastic gear in divers DLC ============>anbout 20 £

keeping none of the above in the extension ========== that is really priceless

phil
 <saint theme here>

[Yukarisan]

Reading FAQ, I was disappointed... Good bye, my boy and his Zev.

Though today is a Valentine's Day, that's ironical news for them!!

[Feraele]

CybAnt1 wrote...

I suppose you're right..still, myself and others considered those things as "special".   

Sure. When I played a human Noble, I kept my Family Sword till the bitter end and never sold it. It just didn't seem "right" to just sell off the family inheritance. 

However, when I found better swords I could use, I didn't keep using it, either. And that to me was not just a powergamer situation; I wasn't roleplaying someone stupid who would refuse to use a better weapon out of sentimentality, so i didn't. 

Believe me, I'm not totally happy about everything, either. The one DlC I will miss most is Shale. 

But that's what I love about the modding community: I predict very soon there will be mods to let you play the new companions in the original campaign, and keep some of the original companions in the new one. Of course, probably sans dialogue and interactions and alas no carry-forward romance dialogue.

And just as there were mods to let you take the promotional stuff without doing the promotions, coming soon: mods that will "clone" the DlC items for Awakening (although they may have to rename them slightly). 




 

Indeed I never used stuff that I had grown out of..but I would pass it on ..say a weapon to one of my rogues or something.     It got recycled, or even kept for sentimental reasons.   I never sold stuff like that.  

I guess I keep hoping that  Bioware will eventually give us a fort where we can put things on display...or barring that, the modding community can make us a fort with either display cases or armor display stands, so we can keep our memorable items...for sentimental reasons.

I am not a loot ****, but I do keep things that "mean something" according to the lore/story....its how I am in real life too.   I don't necessarily have a use for it...but it does get put on a wall or in a special place to be preserved. 

[Feraele]

Maviarab wrote...

All makes sense now Fera....thanks for that...wondered why you nailed me to the wall

*continues dangling from the wall silently*

ROFL!!   and stay there!!  You hear?   hehe

[highcastle]

aya001 wrote...

what do you mean with no romance in awakening? NOOO, I hope you'e wrong T-T

There will be no new romances in Awakening. However, David Gaider posted earlier saying this doesn't mean that your characters and their love interests mysteriously broke up between Origins and Awakening. Some may get cameos, the romances should be acknowledged, but you're going to be away from your love interest through Awakenings.