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[AlanC9]

I vote no as well. I'd like it if we had all the dialog voiced, in several different voices. But if they can't do that -- and apparently they can't -- the tradeoffs are not worth it.

[svenus97]

Halfno wrote...

Hmm, lets play this out... 3 races, 2 genders, 6 voice combinations. That is a crap load of voice acting.

Actually, it would be silly to have a Dalish and a City Elf sound the same, or the Dwarf Noble and the Casteless Dwarf. So that would mean we need... A voice actor for :

Human Noble Male
Human Noble Female
Elf Mage Male
Elf Mage Female
Human Mage Male
Human Mage Female
Dalish Elf Male
Dalish Elf Female
City Elf Male
City Elf Female
Dwarf Noble Male
Dwarf Noble Female
Dwarf Commoner Male
Dwarf Commoner Female

So thats 14 Voice Actor:) Unless they assume your Human Noble goes to the Circle of Magi, or a few tweaks like that.

I would pretty much prefer if they allow you to customize your age (I hate when the game assumes your young, I want to play an old mage, imagine how silly it is when Irving calls my Mage (his picture is my Avatar) a chld), size, weight, muscularity, hair length etc...

Oh, and It would be silly the hear what you just read... or you could cut the response size like in Mass Effect,.
You can also just pretend you are the voice actor and do the voice acting yourself:D.

Modifié par svenus97, 13 février 2010 - 07:34 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

Seriously, that is a terrible idea.

[DivineBeetle]

Elvhen Veluthil wrote...

Babaghanouj wrote...

Please don't make our PC's talk, BioWare. It's a role playing game, not a movie. I don't want someone else's voice speaking for me.

Exactly that.

+1

[wanderon]

svenus97 wrote...

Halfno wrote...

Hmm, lets play this out... 3 races, 2 genders, 6 voice combinations. That is a crap load of voice acting.

Actually, it would be silly to have a Dalish and a City Elf sound the same, or the Dwarf Noble and the Casteless Dwarf. So that would mean we need... A voice actor for :

Human Noble Male
Human Noble Female
Elf Mage Male
Elf Mage Female
Human Mage Male
Human Mage Female
Dalish Elf Male
Dalish Elf Female
City Elf Male
City Elf Female
Dwarf Noble Male
Dwarf Noble Female
Dwarf Commoner Male
Dwarf Commoner Female

So thats 14 Voice Actor:) Unless they assume your Human Noble goes to the Circle of Magi, or a few tweaks like that.

I would pretty much prefer if they allow you to customize your age (I hate when the game assumes your young, I want to play an old mage, imagine how silly it is when Irving calls my Mage (his picture is my Avatar) a chld), size, weight, muscularity, hair length etc...

Oh, and It would be silly the hear what you just read... or you could cut the response size like in Mass Effect,.
You can also just pretend you are the voice actor and do the voice acting yourself:D.

This is not even the half of it...

Well one would certainly not want every Human Noble male to sound the same or mages to sound like warriors or warriors like rogues or a bardy rogue to sound like an assasin rogue or a mincing gay Sprit Healer to sound like a womanizing testoserone overloaded Blood mage would you?

 So you would in fact need a variety of voice choices for each and every one of these categories (and more) wouldn't you?

Terrible idea - I vote NO to voice acting for PC TYVM....

[Terwox_]

svenus97 wrote...

Halfno wrote...

Hmm, lets play this out... 3 races, 2 genders, 6 voice combinations. That is a crap load of voice acting.

Actually, it would be silly to have a Dalish and a City Elf sound the same, or the Dwarf Noble and the Casteless Dwarf. So that would mean we need... A voice actor for :

Human Noble Male
Human Noble Female
Elf Mage Male
Elf Mage Female
Human Mage Male
Human Mage Female
Dalish Elf Male
Dalish Elf Female
City Elf Male
City Elf Female
Dwarf Noble Male
Dwarf Noble Female
Dwarf Commoner Male
Dwarf Commoner Female

So thats 14 Voice Actor:) Unless they assume your Human Noble goes to the Circle of Magi, or a few tweaks like that.

I would pretty much prefer if they allow you to customize your age (I hate when the game assumes your young, I want to play an old mage, imagine how silly it is when Irving calls my Mage (his picture is my Avatar) a chld), size, weight, muscularity, hair length etc...

Oh, and It would be silly the hear what you just read... or you could cut the response size like in Mass Effect,.
You can also just pretend you are the voice actor and do the voice acting yourself:D.

Actually, its 3 races 2 genders, which means 6. And then each off those have 4-6 different voice sets (for battle cries and feedback when you give orders). So lets just say average off 5 different voices for each race/gender combination. That means around 30. Although the can cheapen it by just sticking with the base six.

In any case, this is a non-issue. Would be nice if they could add it, if they have enough resources and time left over AFTER everything that is important has been done.

Modifié par Terwox_, 13 février 2010 - 07:57 .

[AlanC9]

svenus97 wrote...

I would pretty much prefer if they allow you to customize your age (I hate when the game assumes your young, I want to play an old mage, imagine how silly it is when Irving calls my Mage (his picture is my Avatar) a chld), size, weight, muscularity, hair length etc...

Doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense. An older mage would have had to have passed the Harrowing already. Not to mention he probably shouldn't be 1st level.

[danielsun1]

i see people talking about that its an RPG game but even still you still pick voices experianced, suave, etc and they do speak, the only difference is, is that they dont speak when it comes to dialogue choices and ive seen some people say that it will cut the dialogue options in half, but ive found that most of the options dont change much and some of them even get the same response, so really it there isnt much to cut down imo

[steveykk]

I'd prefer my character to talk too, I don't really care about the "it's you that has to create your character" responses. Perhaps they should leave the choice to the player, even put it on the bioware addons for payment at least then you'd have a choice and no-one gets annoyed coz their blessed dragon age game has changed the way they didn't want it to.



A choice would be a better option here...

[svenus97]

AlanC9 wrote...

svenus97 wrote...

I would pretty much prefer if they allow you to customize your age (I hate when the game assumes your young, I want to play an old mage, imagine how silly it is when Irving calls my Mage (his picture is my Avatar) a chld), size, weight, muscularity, hair length etc...

Doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense. An older mage would have had to have passed the Harrowing already. Not to mention he probably shouldn't be 1st level.

Allow it so that with age commes experience, for example... if you are a mage between 18-25, you are an apprentice, between 25-40 a full mage and 40+ a senior enchanter. Same could go for Dalish Elf, a hunter, a keeper etc...

[Thenick360]

I wouldn't mind if they talked.

[AmstradHero]

As has been said before giving players this "choice" of having a voiced character would remove choice from the game. Compare Mass Effect to Dragon Age.  Both a great games, but Mass Effect doesn't have the number of choices or amount of content that Dragon Age does. Why? Because they have to voice every single line.

1. Space. Sound takes up storage room. Adding in voiced PCs would increase the storage requirements for the game, and I imagine the increase would not be insignificant. There is a lot of player dialogue.
2. Roleplaying considerations. At the very least, they would need 6 different voice lines, one for each gender/race. Plus, BioWare said that they wanted players to create their own character for DA:O. Giving that character a voice detracts from that creation aspect a little. Plus, my Dwarven Noble has the same voice as my Dwarven Commoner? I don't think so.
3. Time/Money considerations. Voice actors don't work for free.  Getting them to record every single line for the PC would take a long time, and hence a lot of money. Oh, and also the release would probably have been delayed. Again.

I don't want my character to be voiced in Dragon Age, even though I love it in Mass Effect.  Trading a massive amount of content for voice acting of my character is not desirable for Dragon Age.

[sprybry]

nah!

[Babaghanouj]

steveykk wrote...

I'd prefer my character to talk too, I don't really care about the "it's you that has to create your character" responses. Perhaps they should leave the choice to the player, even put it on the bioware addons for payment at least then you'd have a choice and no-one gets annoyed coz their blessed dragon age game has changed the way they didn't want it to.

A choice would be a better option here...

YOU may not care, but remember this genre is called Role Playing. Including PC voice acting ruins a huge part of the immersion value for many people. Maybe that sounds lame, but you can't discount that aspect of gaming.

[Draelorn]

I think they would like to do this and will. Just not this time. Its really time consuming and costly. I'd hate to be God in this give me era.

[Kwanzaabot]

_Ermehtar_ wrote...

For the love of god... NO!
It destroys any way to immerse yourself into that charater, cripples your dialouge tree (Giving you less dialouge options etc.). We may get characters that sounds nothing like the "persona" you had in mind. Leave voiced protagonists for linear games like JRPGS and actoin/andventure.

The only part of the dialogue tree it cripples is the lines where you say "I'm X. Pleased to meet you".

I say voice acting yes, and just have our character use our surname in introductions.

I mean, everyone calls you "Warden", "Him" or "Her" anyway, so what's the difference? It's not like the surname is even USED in the game. Not once has anyone called my elven mage "that Surana lad" or whatever.

[_Ermehtar_]

Kwanzaabot wrote...

_Ermehtar_ wrote...

For the love of god... NO!
It destroys any way to immerse yourself into that charater, cripples your dialouge tree (Giving you less dialouge options etc.). We may get characters that sounds nothing like the "persona" you had in mind. Leave voiced protagonists for linear games like JRPGS and actoin/andventure.

The only part of the dialogue tree it cripples is the lines where you say "I'm X. Pleased to meet you".

I say voice acting yes, and just have our character use our surname in introductions.

I mean, everyone calls you "Warden", "Him" or "Her" anyway, so what's the difference? It's not like the surname is even USED in the game. Not once has anyone called my elven mage "that Surana lad" or whatever.

Huh? You do know that VO includes all the lines you speak? both grenders all races. 

By crippeling the dialouge tree I ment, you will get less dialouge options, as voicing dialouges takes time and money. As Bios own Georg Zoeller said, the game would only have been half as long with a voiced PC.

[AlanC9]

svenus97 wrote...

Allow it so that with age commes experience, for example... if you are a mage between 18-25, you are an apprentice, between 25-40 a full mage and 40+ a senior enchanter. Same could go for Dalish Elf, a hunter, a keeper etc...

Level scaling might blow up., though that's conceptually possible to fix. You'd need major rewrites to most of the origin stories, though, which would be much harder.

[LaztRezort]

Colenda wrote...

I'd sign a petition to stop DAO PCs from talking.

Me too.  I feel the urge to feed one of my PCs to a high dragon everytime he mentions ladders and getting off his back...

[kyohei021]

i would to say YES YES YES (for the love of god yes) please to to having the pc/main character being voiced for me haveing every one but my main character join in on converstations is a letdown.

sorry for the caps in my yes response im only replying to those few who say NO NO when im like all yes yes. at the same time though i do understand that it would take a great deal of effort to get voice actors for each origin and race time/money.

[Kwanzaabot]

_Ermehtar_ wrote...
Huh? You do know that VO includes all the lines you speak? both grenders all races. 

By crippeling the dialouge tree I ment, you will get less dialouge options, as voicing dialouges takes time and money. As Bios own Georg Zoeller said, the game would only have been half as long with a voiced PC.

That really does seem like an exaggeration to me. The game's pretty short as it as... most of Dragon Age's length comes from dungeon-crawling.

But I can see how it would increase costs. Hopefully we'll see some voice-acting in DA 2, though.

[Skilled Seeker]

/signed



The PC talking adds a lot of immersion and makes the experience cinamatic. It would be great if they used the wheel system with the interupts from ME2 in DA2. It just brings the character to life rather than being the only person that can't talk.

[TheRealIncarnal]

We had a lengthy thread about this just a few days ago.

How would you voice the characters in Dragon Age? You would need about 14 different voice actors (Dalish, Mage, and City Elves, Castless and Nobel Dwarves, Mage and Nobel Humans, male and female each), and even if you can get the same voice actor to do a few of the roles, you're going to need to have 14 different voice tracks for the entire game. That's already much larger than Mass Effect's two.

Then we have the fact that in Mass Effect you often seem to have several options to choose from, but in reality you only have one or two responses. So there isn't so much choice as an illusion of choice. In Dragon Age you have choice, thus you would need more lines to keep the same level of choice.

Finally, there's the problem that Dragon Age is a much longer game than Mass Effect. Much longer. So think about the extra effort you would need for Mass Effect to be done at the quality of story as Dragon Age with voices, and then you need to at least double that.

So, even if you wanted your character in Mass Effect to be voiced, the answer is just no. It's just not worth the investment for Bioware.

Modifié par TheRealIncarnal, 14 février 2010 - 02:10 .

[Burningwolf]

Easy solution.Play it on the pc.VO the lines your self and put them in game through the toolkit.Boom headshot,problem solved.

Yes it would be great if they were all professionally done.However the resources didnt allow for it.ANd probablly wont in the future DA games.