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[Bio Addict]

For those asking "well then what is going to carry over?" in an interview with IGN someone from Bioware mentioned the manner in which you killed the arch demon and who you left on the throne of Ferelden as being important.

[Kanjiten]

Azure Zero wrote...

However DLC loot not carrying over and the excuse used is a bit irritating. "It was made for Origins alone" doesn't give valid reason in my opinion. Awakening is made as a continuation for Origins is it not? Why wouldn't the new warden commander of Ferelden wear Warden Commander armor.  Not to mention We did pay for the dlc.

Gah, I love my Warden Commander armor. Was this a technical limitation thing? There goes Starfang, the Harvest Festival Ring, Duncan's sword...my Warden is going to have to dual-wield toothpicks while wearing his boxers.

[Azure Zero]

Kanjiten wrote...

Azure Zero wrote...

However DLC loot not carrying over and the excuse used is a bit irritating. "It was made for Origins alone" doesn't give valid reason in my opinion. Awakening is made as a continuation for Origins is it not? Why wouldn't the new warden commander of Ferelden wear Warden Commander armor.  Not to mention We did pay for the dlc.

Gah, I love my Warden Commander armor. Was this a technical limitation thing? There goes Starfang, the Harvest Festival Ring, Duncan's sword...my Warden is going to have to dual-wield toothpicks while wearing his boxers.

I enjoy my WC armor also, (best looking armor in game imo) And after a little bit more thought I have a better idea what was really meant by "meant for origins" But that makes sense for fuuture DLC and not current DLC.

edit: which I posted here social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/127/index/1184490#1188384

Modifié par Azure Zero, 13 février 2010 - 09:10 .

[ImNotTrent]

honestly, i'd rather there was no romance available cause it wouldn't be fun for any of my characters to continue on and cheat on their chosen romance from Origins, it's better to think they stayed behind to "hold down the fort" so to speak.



also, it seems, since this expansion is coming out so soon after Origins, that there just wasn't time to develop any new romances along with the DLC that has been put out etc all. i can see the why's to the choices made regarding romances. nonetheless, i do wish the old romances would carry over, but alas, we can't always get what we want.

[KigenBarzhad]

Azure Zero wrote...

That FAQ is reducing enthusiasm for the expansion. I can understand no romances, sucks but not in anyway a gamebreaker for me.

However DLC loot not carrying over and the excuse used is a bit irritating. "It was made for Origins alone" doesn't give valid reason in my opinion. Awakening is made as a continuation for Origins is it not? Why wouldn't the new warden commander of Ferelden wear Warden Commander armor.  Not to mention We did pay for the dlc.

And also this, "If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we."

Seriously, I liked the theorized idea that you could import an ultimate sacrifice ending and play as the new orlesian warden but have your choices carry over.

The underlying feeling I get from the faq is that Awakening was rushed and not thought out as well as expansions I am used to.

I agree completely. After pre-ordering it today, I'm wishing I hadn't.

[KigenBarzhad]

Also, not being able to import DLC items seems to mean that DLC itself is less and less useful/fun/whatever.

[Harelda]

Are the romances even going to be referred to, even if they can't be continued? It seems silly that no one will mention to your future Queen Warden that she's...ya know...practically royalty and going to miss her own wedding if she doesn't get this little Darkspawn problem sorted sharpish.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Harelda wrote...

Are the romances even going to be referred to, even if they can't be continued? It seems silly that no one will mention to your future Queen Warden that she's...ya know...practically royalty and going to miss her own wedding if she doesn't get this little Darkspawn problem sorted sharpish.

You know, thats the ONLY bloody thing I wish would be in Awakening if you can't continue/start romances in it. I want this even more than DLC making a return.

[Vuokseniska]

well i hate to say it but these pre jitters about expansions and new gams are always the same... 90% is speculation and 10% fact and then all added with drama. We don't even Know the whole story of the expansion and what the options are. The whole DLC gear thing isn't a big problem. From what i know You are a new warden, it would be weird to have the gear of your previous character. The romance is dissapointing, but not really a big deal when it comes to gameplay. I want to play an epic tale, with some more new classes, gear and such... these are just minor things

[Azure Zero]

Vuokseniska wrote...

well i hate to say it but these pre jitters about expansions and new gams are always the same... 90% is speculation and 10% fact and then all added with drama. We don't even Know the whole story of the expansion and what the options are. The whole DLC gear thing isn't a big problem. From what i know You are a new warden, it would be weird to have the gear of your previous character. The romance is dissapointing, but not really a big deal when it comes to gameplay. I want to play an epic tale, with some more new classes, gear and such... these are just minor things

Only if you choose not to import your character. Otherwise you are your previous character. Also the romances were a big part of the story for I would dare to say most of the DA players gameplay experience.

Modifié par Azure Zero, 13 février 2010 - 09:42 .

[_Ermehtar_]

Well aslong as my companions wont start romancing each other, I won't care. If they do, I will break them up. If I can't have the love none shall have it.. Im the hero and the sun revolves around me god dammnit! >:-D

[Harelda]

*Cheers at everyone who answered her post* Thanks guys.

RGC_Ines wrote...
Don't worry, romances from DA:O will be mentioned in Awakening..well maybe as a letter from Alistair, where he will told You, that he was "devastated" after You left him becouse of yours mission, and then friends took him to the tavern for a few drinks..and BTW he spent nice evening with pretty girl..but it wasn't something serious, so  after You will be back, You will talk about future..well...maybe

 Nice to know I'm not the only person who thinks if Alistair is left unattended his lady love will return to the pitter patter of tiny bastard feet

Modifié par Harelda, 13 février 2010 - 09:52 .

[Monica21]

errant_knight wrote...

This makes perfect sense to me, actually. Awakenings takes place only a few months after Origins. Most people will have played a romance with their characters in Origins, and I doubt that the majority of people are playing PCs that took it so lightly that they'd take up with someone else so quickly. I know that I wouldn't have been playing a romance anyway. My PC didn't risk the ritual [edited to remove spoiler] so she could cheat on Alistair.

If these new characters are new grey wardens, the PC is more formally in a command position over them than when leading the party in Origins, so romance would be somewhat inappropriate, as well.

The only thing in the FAQ that's a bit disappointing to me is that I won't be able to import DLC items. That's going to create a bit of an armor/weapon issue, although Alistair is actually using most of that loot.

True, but that only works if you're importing a character who was in a romance. If you're not, or if you're starting a new character then it would be nice to have a romance option.

That said, I'm still pre-ordering and I really doubt it's going to be a game-breaker either way.

[knittzu]

I agree, OP. I've instantly gone from being incredibly excited about this expansion to... eh. I'm certainly no longer counting the days. The thrills for me in DA:O were the relationships and conversations and getting involved with the characters. Romancing Zev and slowing realizing that there was a lot more to him was *much* more fun than, say, killing hundreds of boring mobs in the Deep Roads.

I'm glad I haven't pre-ordered it. If it's just trudging around and killing stuff? You know, there are about 10,000 other games where I can do that -- and many of those games have much better and more challening combat systems. Character relationships is where BioWare shines; why on earth would they decide to omit their strongest asset?

[mousestalker]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

Much about Awakening sounds great. Seeing Loghain, Oghren, Wynne and Alistair sounds like fun. I'm not even going to miss the DLC loot.

But.....

According to the FAQ there won't be any romances. That is disappointing. A large portion of the fun in Origins were the romances. Navigating the conversational pitfalls of triggering a romance with Lelianna when you're really interested in Zevran. Being dumped by Alistair because you convinced him to become king. All the torturous tricky dialogue choices make the game a great deal of fun.

It's still pre-ordered. But I'm now a lot less excited about it.

You didn't die a little.

Stop exaggerating.

No exaggeration. It took me around a minute or so to read about romances being lacking. I am therefore at least a minute or so closer to death. I died by that amount. Which was quite a small portion of time. Therefore I died a little. So did you, by the way.

:innocent:

Modifié par mousestalker, 13 février 2010 - 11:12 .

[Aracid]

I agree, I got my hopes up when I seen that mage. Fudgeness. =[

[urvashi]

errant_knight wrote...

urvashi wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

This makes perfect sense to me, actually. Awakenings takes place only a few months after Origins. Most people will have played a romance with their characters in Origins, and I doubt that the majority of people are playing PCs that took it so lightly that they'd take up with someone else so quickly. I know that I wouldn't have been playing a romance anyway. My PC didn't risk the ritual [edited to remove spoiler] so she could cheat on Alistair.

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I can't speak for the majority, just myself. I played a romance with all my PCs in Origins, and, yes, some of them wouldn't just take up with a new romancible companion in Awakenings. But I have a few male PCs that took Morrigan at her word when she said it was just casual, and a few females who got dumped by Alistair and who are quite ready to move on. I wouldn't want Awakenings to force a new romance on you, but I was looking forward to the option to have it for those characters who would pursue it. My male Dalish elf never felt quite right about his affair with Morrigan, and I was really looking forward to him finally having a shot at romance with a female elf. And I would enjoy playing my PCs who are still attached to old flames struggling with the temptation of new romance, too.

I can't disagree with any of that, and you make your points well, but I would still find the shorter timeframe an obstacle to any kind of natural progression in a romance. In my opinion, that's better left to a longer expansion, or DA2, when it can get the same kind of care and attention as it did in Origins. Otherwise, you end up with something rushed and probably less meaniingful.

And I would find it a little creepy for the Warden Commander to be romancing one of the new recruits, given that their well being is under his/her direct control.

I see your point on the creepiness. I hadn't quite sunk in with me that these are all new warden recruits & not just a band of companions. And now I wonder if I should be feeling creepy about my Shephard/Tali romance in ME2.