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[Jshay512]

Ok myusha the character thing annoys me. Who cares if they look a bit alike. I dont care if the hair is the same style. Its a different color, her face is different, her race is different. Anders is pretty much the same he looks a bit alike but its not the same besides small things. It doesn't really matter if they are sort of the same. their hair style or nose size and shape might be the same or similar who cares??? They have different stories and different voices thats all that should really matter.

Modifié par Jshay512, 14 février 2010 - 01:08 .

[MassEffect762]

ME2, Awakening, hmm am I seeing a pattern with quality or is it just me.(yeah it's probably just me)

[Monica21]

Reading about people canceling pre-orders makes me say "Wha.....?" The romances in Origins take up what, 5% of the game, if that. There's so much more to the story than just a romance. The two new companions mentioned so far have seemed interesting, and I doubt they'll just be there for the purpose of you deciding how to build them.

I play a lot of games that don't have romances, and Awakenings will be another. I play very few games that have quality character interaction however, and lack of romance doesn't preclude that.

[Arbiter Libera]

MassEffect762 wrote...

ME2, Awakening, hmm am I seeing a pattern with quality or is it just me.(yeah it's probably just me)

Only thing I see is that people are getting the wrong impression that romance has somehow become integral and mandatory in every BioWare game. It's just an element of the game and it certainly doesn't NEED to be present to make or break the Awakening.

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 14 février 2010 - 01:19 .

[Jshay512]

Monica21 wrote...

Reading about people canceling pre-orders makes me say "Wha.....?" The romances in Origins take up what, 5% of the game, if that. There's so much more to the story than just a romance. The two new companions mentioned so far have seemed interesting, and I doubt they'll just be there for the purpose of you deciding how to build them.
I play a lot of games that don't have romances, and Awakenings will be another. I play very few games that have quality character interaction however, and lack of romance doesn't preclude that.

I have to say I love this girl (not really figuratively of course). but i mean people have to be stupid to cancel because of no romance and Orghen. 

[Oak Tree Leaf]

I don't mean to sound whiney and I didn't read this faq myself, but the dlc I PAID for I cannot use in the expansion?

[Monica21]

Heh, it's nice to be figuratively loved this close to Valentine's Day.

[Azure Zero]

Jshay512 wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Reading about people canceling pre-orders makes me say "Wha.....?" The romances in Origins take up what, 5% of the game, if that. There's so much more to the story than just a romance. The two new companions mentioned so far have seemed interesting, and I doubt they'll just be there for the purpose of you deciding how to build them.
I play a lot of games that don't have romances, and Awakenings will be another. I play very few games that have quality character interaction however, and lack of romance doesn't preclude that.

I have to say I love this girl (not really figuratively of course). but i mean people have to be stupid to cancel because of no romance and Orghen. 

How does it make them stupid if what they enjoyed most about origins were the romances? If what they like is not going to be in the expansion it is a valid reason to not buy it.

It is similar to music, some people like bands and buy every album they release the day it hits shelves, some will buy albums for the one or 2 songs they enjoy on it  later once the price goes down, others buy only the songs they like itunes or rhapsody etc and don't spend money on the ones they don't.

Oak Tree Leaf wrote...

I don't mean to sound whiney and I didn't read this faq myself, but the dlc I PAID for I cannot use in the expansion?

The FAQ states no loot from DLC sources will carry over.

Modifié par Azure Zero, 14 février 2010 - 01:33 .

[Monica21]

Azure Zero wrote...
How does it make them stupid if what they enjoyed most about origins were the romances? If what they like is not going to be in the expansion it is a valid reason to not buy it.

It is similar to music, some people like bands and buy every album they release the day it hits shelves, some will buy albums for the one or 2 songs they enjoy on it  later once the price goes down, others buy only the songs they like itunes or rhapsody etc and don't spend money on the ones they don't.

First, nowhere in my post did I say "stupid." I have a strong disagreement with an opinion, but that's it. My opinion is that the game is more than the romance. Much, much more. You have something like a dozen conversations, give a few gifts, and then you're in love. It's not a major part of the game. I had a better time trying to figure out Sten and becoming friends with Leliana (even if she's a bit glitched) than I did with the romances.

No romance is not a big deal to me, because I think BioWare will come through with strong character interaction. It's not a game-breaker for me, and people who don't play it simply because of that will likely be shunning something they would have liked.

[Jshay512]

Not really it is stupid because why the heck get the game in the first place if your only buying a DARK FANTASY RPG not a Barbie romance game. I mean yes if the whole point of the game was to have a romance and they took the romance out don't get the game but not playing the game that is an RPG fighting game. This game is made for the killing of darkspawn and watching darkspawns heads go flying not because of the romance... If you were just buying a game for romance you could have picked better choices. that is more like your album qoute. Because romance is 5% or less of the game so thats like buying a CD for 1 songs.

[Azure Zero]

Monica21 wrote...

Azure Zero wrote...
How does it make them stupid if what they enjoyed most about origins were the romances? If what they like is not going to be in the expansion it is a valid reason to not buy it.

It is similar to music, some people like bands and buy every album they release the day it hits shelves, some will buy albums for the one or 2 songs they enjoy on it  later once the price goes down, others buy only the songs they like itunes or rhapsody etc and don't spend money on the ones they don't.

First, nowhere in my post did I say "stupid." I have a strong disagreement with an opinion, but that's it. My opinion is that the game is more than the romance. Much, much more. You have something like a dozen conversations, give a few gifts, and then you're in love. It's not a major part of the game. I had a better time trying to figure out Sten and becoming friends with Leliana (even if she's a bit glitched) than I did with the romances.

No romance is not a big deal to me, because I think BioWare will come through with strong character interaction. It's not a game-breaker for me, and people who don't play it simply because of that will likely be shunning something they would have liked.

Reread the very bottom part of the quoted text, I was not quoting you directly just the person that quoted you.

[click2kill]

I'm uncertain about this x-pack as
well. The information being provided at this
point is underwhelming. 

First off, I don't care about romances, I just like a good story.  So Romances don't influence my decision and I could care less.

Second,
in NWN, as long as the skin existed in the toolset and coincided with
existing itemproperties, you could import items via the DM client into
other modules.  My knowledge of the DA toolkit is minimal, but why
can't the skins/properties for the DA DLC be added to the core of the game?  What about the storage options you get from Warden's Keep DLC? 

Finally,
X-packs for other games cost $30
for the same amount of content this x-pack plans to deliver via the
faq.  What makes DA: A better than the normal x-pack that I would need
to shell out another $10?  If anything is to influence why I should or
should not get the x-pack, its this.  In fact, I believe this is a very
big deal and could set a precedent. (Of course, if it was stand-alone, I could understand the price.)

Now, I do understand that Bioware has at least another month to persuade me to buy this x-pack, so I won't jump the gun and say "I'll never buy it", but at the moment, I'm unsure if I should purchase or not. 

Modifié par click2kill, 14 février 2010 - 01:47 .

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

I think I'm the only one who became more excited for Awakening after hearing the no romance news. It makes me think they put a lot of effort into the main story of Awakening itself, which makes me really excited.

[Monica21]

Azure Zero wrote...
Reread the very bottom part of the quoted text, I was not quoting you directly just the person that quoted you.

Okay, nevermind that then, but the rest of my post stands.

[Oak Tree Leaf]

[quote]Oak Tree Leaf wrote...

I don't mean to sound whiney and I didn't read this faq myself, but the dlc I PAID for I cannot use in the expansion?[/quote]

The FAQ states no loot from DLC sources will carry over.

[/quote]



  but.. but... I like my dlc loot....*sniffle*...

*edit* er must of messed up the quote thingy <_<

Modifié par Oak Tree Leaf, 14 février 2010 - 01:48 .

[Angel of Nessus]

RurouniSaiya-jin wrote...

I think I'm the only one who became more excited for Awakening after hearing the no romance news. It makes me think they put a lot of effort into the main story of Awakening itself, which makes me really excited.

Either that or they just didn't feel like going that extra mile on effort.  We really won't know 'till the game is out.

[Monica21]

Oak Tree Leaf wrote...

  but.. but... I like my dlc loot....*sniffle*...

Yeah, that's the only part that kinda bugs me, but I can do without it. I'm lucky to play on PC so I can get modded gear I like better anyway.

[Querne]

Agree with OP.

I´ve made my piece with not transferring old romances, but I´m really, REALLY disappointed ábout the lack of new ones.

There are about 234235 games about killing monsters and threat of the world. Some of them have even better sidequests than "look into the bag and bring 20 X to Y". Romances are something that make Bioware RPGs special.

I was looking forward to Awakening like to christmas and birthday in once, but I´m really not keen on JUST MORE darkspawn. Not on big, small, twinkling, purple, striped and not on TALKING ones.

Fortunatly I haven´t preordered yet.

[Oak Tree Leaf]

Monica21 wrote...

Oak Tree Leaf wrote...

  but.. but... I like my dlc loot....*sniffle*...

Yeah, that's the only part that kinda bugs me, but I can do without it. I'm lucky to play on PC so I can get modded gear I like better anyway.

I'm on pc as well, I havn't looking into too many mods past facial ones and colors. I was worried modded gear would be too over powered xD

[Azure Zero]

Oak Tree Leaf wrote...



  but.. but... I like my dlc loot....*sniffle*...

*edit* er must of messed up the quote thingy <_<

Yeah so will lots of people, even once outgrown, it would have been stuff to sell. So before importing to awakening be sure to load your epilogue save travel to camp, de-rune and sell all dlc loot, make a save and import that way so you get carry over use from your dlc loot in terms of some gold. Though do we even know your gold will carry over <.<.

As for modded gear, the FAQ reccomends not importing a modded save actually. Similar to NWN they said some mods may work fine while some others may not.

Modifié par Azure Zero, 14 février 2010 - 01:56 .

[Curlain]

Monica21 wrote...

Azure Zero wrote...
How does it make them stupid if what they enjoyed most about origins were the romances? If what they like is not going to be in the expansion it is a valid reason to not buy it.

It is similar to music, some people like bands and buy every album they release the day it hits shelves, some will buy albums for the one or 2 songs they enjoy on it  later once the price goes down, others buy only the songs they like itunes or rhapsody etc and don't spend money on the ones they don't.

First, nowhere in my post did I say "stupid." I have a strong disagreement with an opinion, but that's it. My opinion is that the game is more than the romance. Much, much more. You have something like a dozen conversations, give a few gifts, and then you're in love. It's not a major part of the game. I had a better time trying to figure out Sten and becoming friends with Leliana (even if she's a bit glitched) than I did with the romances.

No romance is not a big deal to me, because I think BioWare will come through with strong character interaction. It's not a game-breaker for me, and people who don't play it simply because of that will likely be shunning something they would have liked.

But the point still stands that for allot of people romance was a major (and in some cases the prime) reason for their buying and enjoying DA.  Bioware is famous for doing romances in their cRPGs and doing them well, and that has built a significant section of players that is quite interested in those aspects of the game (just look at half the threads on these boards at times and you realize how important a part of the story and character this is to allot of players.

And for these players their interactions with the romances went far beyond 5% of Origins, but add a major dimension to how they role-play their characters, and added depth to their experience of the story.  It's fine that for others like yourself it's not major, and obviously fine for you to say so, but you equally have to realize for allot of people romance elements are actually one of the major things they are looking for in Bioware cRPGs, and that the fact that both existing romances from Origins won't be continued or experienced in any significant way combined with no new romances will be a major factor in their deciding to buy the expansion or not.

And for myself, yes it is an issue, there were things I was looking forward to playing out with some of my PCs that obviously I won't be able to play out now in Awakenings, and this as certainly made it much less appealing to me personally, as it looks to offer (again to me personally) a lesser experience.  I haven't yet cancelled my pre-order or anything, as I'm hoping the rest of the companion character interaction will be be deep etc, but I also have my doubts on that score now

Modifié par Curlain, 14 février 2010 - 02:05 .

[Jshay512]

New romance would be hard for the writers. Think like a writer and game designer please. If you make a new romance than the people who bring in their people from DA O will mess up the relationship they already had this would make a twist that would have to be delt with in the next expansion if they put the 2 people you had romances with together. This would make about 8-12 different ways the story could go... I'm sorry but for a writer and game designer to make all those different ways to go. That would just be a complete pain in the butt and we wouldn't get the next expansion pack for like 3-4 years

[BlastedLands]

Monica21 wrote...

First, nowhere in my post did I say "stupid." I have a strong disagreement with an opinion, but that's it. My opinion is that the game is more than the romance. Much, much more. You have something like a dozen conversations, give a few gifts, and then you're in love. It's not a major part of the game. I had a better time trying to figure out Sten and becoming friends with Leliana (even if she's a bit glitched) than I did with the romances.

No romance is not a big deal to me, because I think BioWare will come through with strong character interaction. It's not a game-breaker for me, and people who don't play it simply because of that will likely be shunning something they would have liked.

it's just many bits i read over the past few days, that imply (and that's purely subjective) that the whole thing's not going the direction i thought it could. it's this silent whisper in my head which says "wasted potential".
at the moment it feels like many things get cut, things that made the whole epic sensation, and everything feels so rushed all of sudden.

[Oak Tree Leaf]

Azure Zero wrote...

Oak Tree Leaf wrote...



  but.. but... I like my dlc loot....*sniffle*...

*edit* er must of messed up the quote thingy <_<

Yeah so will lots of people, even once outgrown, it would have been stuff to sell. So before importing to awakening be sure to load your epilogue save travel to camp, de-rune and sell all dlc loot, make a save and import that way so you get carry over use from your dlc loot in terms of some gold. Though do we even know your gold will carry over <.<.

I should read the faq, but for a quick question you can still use the dlc content in ferelden for the main quest line, right? (I mean like if you started a brand new character, such as doing the joining to be a grey warden, not the expansion etc.) or does installing the xpac make the dlc completely gone? o.o

[Jshay512]

People act like the no relationship means your not going to do anything with the people... You are still going to talk to them, try to get on their good sides, give them gifts, do a quest for them, maybe hit on them depending on their character type, the only real difference is that you wont fall in love with them/ kiss them/ or sleep with them.