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[Wintermist]

Gathering immense biotic power, Vanguards will Charge toward an enemy, passing over chasms and through obstacles where upon they collide with their target, sending them flying through the air.

I'm not able to charge over chasms, and I certainly have not been able to send enemies flying through the air.

If Vanguards find themselves in trouble, they are also able to use their Charge ability for a quick escape to safety.

Now, how? If they mean you would be able to charge another enemy, then yes. Shouldn't it say that instead instead of giving you the false claim you can actually use it to escape too?

Just saying.

Modifié par Wintermist, 13 février 2010 - 05:21 .

[Sfox1989]

Wintermist wrote...

Gathering immense biotic power, Vanguards will Charge toward an enemy, passing over chasms and through obstacles where upon they collide with their target, sending them flying through the air.

I'm not able to charge over chasms, and I certainly have not been able to send enemies flying through the air.

If Vanguards find themselves in trouble, they are also able to use their Charge ability for a quick escape to safety.

Now, how? If they mean you would be able to charge another enemy, then yes. Shouldn't it say that instead instead of giving you the false claim you can actually use it to escape too?

Just saying.

The chasms part is somewhat ingame. They just don't let you go to areas you normally would have no access to but enemies can spawn. Annoying yes but it is there.

The second part I can totally relate to. It was very clearly advertised that Charge could be used as an escape tactic. Which is impossible to do ofcourse without targetting an enemy. Vanguards are fun and are def playable but I don't enjoy the very limiting aspects they placed on it ingame.

[GCreature]

I thought it was pretty obvious that the player charged to another enemy to escape in the trailer....

[_Dannok1234]

Charging to save yourself is something you can do all the time, but rather then charge away from your enemies, you charge into the next. Just make sure you have picked Heavy Charge, at least on higher difficulties. You don't need to find that lone straggler away from the group that way.

[Seraphael]

Wintermist wrote...

Just saying.

I said as much (and more) the moment the Vanguard reveal video became public.

Modifié par Seraphael, 13 février 2010 - 05:42 .

[Wintermist]

Yes, but you don't escape to safety, do you? You're just moving to another less dangerous area. I'm thinking they planned for us to actually be able to charge back as well, but got lost in translation somewhere.

[Kurupt87]

if you charge an enemy who's alone, then you are charging to safety. charge>shotgun>melee with maybe a 2nd shot and anything apart from a special is dead, and he'll be stunned/flinching the whole time so can't do dmg. and charge refills shields.

[skyst]

Kurupt87 wrote...

if you charge an enemy who's alone, then you are charging to safety. charge>shotgun>melee with maybe a 2nd shot and anything apart from a special is dead, and he'll be stunned/flinching the whole time so can't do dmg. and charge refills shields.

Exactly.

Vanguard is an aggressive class, what are you running away for?

[matt654321]

It was still false advertising. Need proof? Look at how many people thought that the video was saying something else.



The commentary in the video made it seem like charge could be used nearly any time without preconditions to escape danger. That really isn't the case.

[Darnalak]

Eh, I was of the opinion that you could use it as an escape tactic too, but quite frankly I don't care that it's not the case. Vanguards don't run.

[RamsenC]

I would like to be able to charge anywhere, but I'm sure that would be a nightmare to code. They would also have to change the interface a little for aiming your charge precisely.



It's not something that is needed anyways. Playing scared as a Vanguard usually leads to death.

[matt654321]

RamsenC wrote...

I would like to be able to charge anywhere, but I'm sure that would be a nightmare to code. They would also have to change the interface a little for aiming your charge precisely.

It's not something that is needed anyways. Playing scared as a Vanguard usually leads to death.

I don't mind not being able to do it, I just wish it wasn't advertised in the trailer as being so.

[GCreature]

matt654321 wrote...

RamsenC wrote...

I would like to be able to charge anywhere, but I'm sure that would be a nightmare to code. They would also have to change the interface a little for aiming your charge precisely.

It's not something that is needed anyways. Playing scared as a Vanguard usually leads to death.

I don't mind not being able to do it, I just wish it wasn't advertised in the trailer as being so.

In the video you can clearly see she changes targets from the Ymir to a merc'. Imo when you're close to a Ymir with half health, charging a lone merc' who's in the red is much, much safer.

[_Dannok1234]

I can see how some can misunderstand what Christina says at 0.58 in the Vanguard Trailer.

However you can clearly see that she is targeting an enemy in order to do so.



What she says is true. You can charge out of a dangerous situation to save yourself, she does not say anything about how you do it. The fact that she does target an enemy implies that you have to, but it's not said outright, which is the source of the confusion I guess.

[GCreature]

Dannok1234 wrote...

I can see how some can misunderstand what Christina says at 0.58 in the Vanguard Trailer.
However you can clearly see that she is targeting an enemy in order to do so.

What she says is true. You can charge out of a dangerous situation to save yourself, she does not say anything about how you do it. The fact that she does target an enemy implies that you have to, but it's not said outright, which is the source of the confusion I guess.

I think it's going to be one of those casual remarks that's just going to keep coming back to bite her on the ass. The Adept's "No one is better at killing enemies without firing a shot" will be another.

[expanding panic]

You can use charge to escape. Look for where there is only one or two enemies charge one of them then run like hell! Not what you wanted I know but it does work.

[Schneidend]

Vanguard works exactly as advertised. High risk, high reward. There's nothing quite like shotgun/meleeing a Blue Suns Heavy and then turning around to shotgun the Legionnaires you charged past in the back.



Nobody ever said you could use Charge to flee like a coward. You Charge a lone enemy, obliterate them with your shotgun, and then either move on to the next victim or find cover.

[Wintermist]

It's a rather liberal interpretation of the words. I don't mind it, but I do mind inaccuracy.

[Acero Azul]

i was disappointed with the vanguard class at first compared to ME1, then i learned how to use it better and regained my love for the Vanguard