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[Safernya666]

What?! NO ROMANCE?! Ok... Totally disappointed. The thing I found the most amazing in Dragon Age was the romances options. Didn't they say there would be more relationships? More romance options? Am I the only one that remember they said that in an interview? They really said this, I read the article something like 10 times to make sure I wasn't dreaming, I can't just have imagined this whole article. Promises of more romance with more realistic reactions from the other toons. And no romances at the end. And girls that played this, like me, enjoyed the romances more than anything else in the game. Well, most of them. So if there is no romances to keep my curiosity all along the storyline, I don't see the point of just doing a story, like this, without any relationships, nor cute or funny quotes of the other NPCs. If I want a rpg without romance, I'll just play an MMO.



Well, looks like I suddenly lost my interest in buying DAO:A.



Maybe I'll just go and play a MMO if I want special classes and gears.



*angry fan*

[Foreman20]

We cannot carry DLC gear over and they are no romances. Can ww still talk to people and fight?

[nefand]

I have to agree with the angst over the romance situation, if I can't carry through with the relationships based on what my game ended with then the bulk of my interest in DA:A is ruined.



I personally love bioware games for the RP element more than the G, since they're just about the only company that even pays attention to the female gamer demographic. And based on that, I'd gladly shell out $40+ for a sequel that stays true to the original's ending rather than some hack'n'slash that sidelines what was enjoyed in the original because 'OH HEY GUYS IMPORTANT MISSION.'



Pretty much the same reason I'm not getting ME2, either. Le sigh.

[Parame]

Can we still play Morrigan and is she voiced like the new characters?
Because honestly I'm not that interested in new ones, I'm more into developing and playing with those I already spend 65 hours leveling up instead of starting from scratch with unknow ones.

Modifié par Parame, 19 février 2010 - 05:57 .

[MacroSamurai]

Well, the romances aren't completely scrapped. I'm pretty sure that somewhere they explained that there will just be no new romance *options* in Awakening; and your just on hiatus for a bit with whoever you decided to get with, at least until you can solve the new threat. The rest of your choices (hopefully) will still have an impact.



And Morrigan won't be back for this outing, just like everyone else, save our favorite dwarf. She's my favorite companion, but she won't be back in Awakening. And I'm glad for it. It's too soon given the outcome. Besides, everybody needs new friends every now and then, the new people will be fun.

[Foreman20]

For both those games the main purpose of the character is the duty and obligation they have. The romance is a side track.



For you maybe. But not for everyone. No romance, no using DLC items equal less choices and less options. And those are two thing that do not help a good RPG IMO.

[Dragon Age1103]

wait I am lost no romance at all in the expansion or are ppl still shocked that we can't romance with our previous characters like Leliana? If it is the 2nd part that is just very sad. Why would you want to?

Anyways I don't see no DLC gear as a bad thing just means obviously we'll have tons of new favorite loot. I mean do ppl really want to wear the same armor for another 15+ hours?

[lightstryker]

The DLC items I would have liked but I'm ok with them not putting them in there since there will be new gear and items. But the lack of romance is a bit of a let down. That's usually a standard part of Bioware games and I liked what they did with Origins and wanted to see it back. And then Oghren being in it kind of sucks, too. I think Morrigan and Leliana were far deeper and more interesting characters than a drunk dwarf. I thought he was ok but not good enough to bring back for a sequel I thought.

[DarthJake88]

No romance is a drag but not game breaking. It was NOT a core element of DA:O but merely a "side quest" that you could accomplish if you wanted, you were not required to start a romance but the option was there. Hell you could make your pc swing both ways if you wanted. However it was not a key component in the grand scale of the story as you grew as a warden.



In regards to the dlc items, that is a drag as well but still not game breaking. DA:A will have new gear and items that will (should) make up for the fact that dlc gear will not be carrying over with your warden. And who’s to say there wont be a patch or dlc that will allow for romance and/or gear transfer? I’m not saying that would be the greatest idea ( I myself don’t like the thought of having to pay to have DA:O dlc gear or more dialog options that lead to romances with party members) but a thought non-the-less.

[Dragon Age1103]

still confused who said that officially there is no romance at all in Awakening 100% confirmation?

Modifié par Dragon Age1103, 19 février 2010 - 11:15 .

[Parame]

Wow, I thought it was a drag we didn't have Morrigan available, but new characters aren't even romanceable?

I know it's not the main feature of a game but it sure is a good thing to have that option !

Meh...

Sure hope they will offer this functionalities in the next expansions AND in DA 2

[lightstryker]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

still confused who said that officially there is no romance at all in Awakening 100% confirmation?

It's in the Awakening FAQ here.

[Dragon Age1103]

cool beans thanks but I'm sure we can still talk to our companions. I mean romance isn't a very big part of the game at all so why the fuss. I'm worried about content & plot which the trailers show I shouldn't really worry! Besides I'm still waiting to find out more, I pulled my paid of preorder. Not paying a ridiculous $40 for an expansion unless user reviews & place like ign confirm 20+ hours, tons of content, & very solid build with few bugs.

[nefand]

mrfoo1 wrote...

For both those games the main purpose of the character is the duty and obligation they have. The romance is a side track. In both ME and DA:O it even makes it abundently clear that the romance is a trivial fling, or is something that can not be continued.

Maybe for male PC's.  But for those of us with a female Cousland save that married Alistair, I'd hardly call that trivial.  And for all the female race/class options that may have ended on an up note with Alistair or Zev, the epilogues are very specific in that in those situations your PC and the male companion went everywhere together thereafter, as in continued all adventures together.

For male PC's who went with a hetero option, well... jokes on you, apparently.

And given that both games had multiple ending in regards to Characters and there romance's and options I don't see the big issue as it would be impracticale to design DA:A just to follow the players choices outside of what is and should be the main story line of you become a grey warden and die.

In Peace: Vigilance
In War: Victory
In Sacrifice: Death

Grey Wardens in particular are not about living a happy go lucky average life. It's about being devoted solely to the cause of the Wardens, crushing darkspawn into gooeeey dallops of red paste across

Except that DA:O sets the stage for changing ALL of that.  You and Alistair are the only GW's left, and you're left to your own devices and inexperience to get the job done.  Along the way you end up doing things the non-traditional way, which basically throws the rest of the GW status quo out the window.  Why would my PC who'd done things the way she wanted to stop the Blight suddenly feel obligated to fall in line with what Orlais or Waissblech want?  She wouldn't.

[Aunavina]

I've just skimmed through, there's quite honestly a lot to read and a lot of it just yays or nays.

I'm wondering a few things:

1. Why no romances? Did I read that correctly? It may get dismissed as a silly thing, but personal interactions and the -option- to have a romance adds a huge depth to a game and characters. It allows the player to further engross themselves in the situations because they can make connections and influence their party members on varying levels. I would gladly see the game delayed a month or so while more romance or continued romance options were put in place.

I have to agree with Nefand that the romances aren't a side-track or trivial really. 

This kind of goes into my other wonders too;

2. Will the relationships for NPCs that were in DA:O be the same in DA:A? Will what you did in Origins matter in Awakening?

So say, you marry Alistair, let him do that thing on the eve of battle, and you two live together as such, if you import (can you import?) from DA:O to DA:A will it still mesh with the story?

Likewise, if you let Alistair bugger off and chose Loghain, will that have say Anora in DA:A instead of Alistair ? 

If your PC died, I imagine it's not a huge difference, you just start out with a newbie warden?

3. I don't know if, but think it would be cool if you could have personal holds. Like in Baldur's Gate where you got the thieves guild and such. PC  Noble -> Highever Castle (like your brother would tell you off) and such.I'm sure there could be something easily done for each class.

I also hope we learn more about Duncan, I was sad but intrigued to see he wasn't at Ostagar on the return trip.

Touching the topic of the the Fereldan Warden's falling in line with the Orlesian GW's and Weisshaupt, I have
no idea why some of my characters would give a damn about Orlais and
Wiesshaupt's wants. From listening to Riordan, Weisshaupt is
run differently than the ones in Orlais (or any other GW group for that matter), so
that says to me that your char can run the Fereldan GW's any way they
want as long as the basic goal is the same.

Enchantment?

Modifié par Aunavina, 20 février 2010 - 01:25 .

[Aunavina]

Ok, I read the FAQ and answered some of my questions (should have before, stupid me). I admit to not being too thrilled. I'm torn between keeping Bioware Faith, and being jaded by lack of continuity in many games I've played.

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening?

Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.

^--- And... if you married Alistair and he became King and you consequently Consort and then he shows up again.. what? Nothing? o.O


1.8 – Who can I romance in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening?

There are no romances options available in Awakening. The story is focused more on the mission at hand and the new threat to Ferelden.

A definite let down. What, the Blight in the first one wasn't something to focus on? I very, very, very much like the exchanges you can have on that level.

Oghren for romancing! *smirk*

2.5 – Will my items, armor, stats, etc transfer over if I import my character from Dragon Age: Origins?

Almost all items are imported with your character. The only exceptions are the Origins promotional items and DLC loot, which were meant for Origins alone.

Er, I find this mildly alarming? What exactly does DLC "loot" constitute as? As a customer, I've paid for the DLC and technically the loot. If my Warden had/has it on them, it should be able to be transferred over with my Warden.

2.6 – If I have used fan modifications or custom content, will my character still work in Dragon Age:Origins - Awakening?

If you've user mods or custom content, there is a chance that it will not work with Awakening. We expect it will work similarly to Neverwinter Nights where some mods are unaffected by the expansion, and others are. We advise players to use un-modded characters to import.

I can kind of understand this, but I don't think there are many un-modded characters (just through char-gen alone) is there no way to have the files compatible? I have no idea how it'd clash with the more intensive mods, though. But things like presets, hair, eyes and skin. I hope we get more tattoos and voices.

Modifié par Aunavina, 20 février 2010 - 01:55 .

[nefand]

It really seems, at least to me, as if Awakenings would have been better as a new PC story without an Origins toon import option, but which would have read the Origins save files and adjust the Awakenings intro accordingly. Then you could have had Alistair or Anora explain [whatever excuse fits] about why Warden [lastname] couldn't be there (or "my wife/husband" if suitable) and then send the Orlais warden off on the new adventure.



That would've preserved the continuinity while still managing the expectations of the player. It would've been a better reason why DLC won't transfer, too.

[Bonjour_Chaos]

Wow...my first post and it's to say that Awakening sounds a bit balls...I can live without the dlc equipment but no romance? And Oghren? Really? While I found his pervy and drunkness amusing at first it started to grate after a while and he was never used, granted that is my own personal opinion but come on honestly. It seems like the developers have look at Origins saw what was good and thought - lets get rid of it and change the game into a few hours grind for levels/gold/experiance to get an expansion out quickly and I hope I'm wrong because Origins/ME and ME2 quickly made their way onto my favorite games of all time with the stories and buy in tactics. Will I buy Awakenings? Probably because it's not that expensive and I need something 'new' to play, but it won't be on release date as by the sounds of things all of the 'emotional' buying into the story has been removed.

Modifié par Bonjour_Chaos, 20 février 2010 - 09:50 .

[Alexander1136]

Attention bioware ps3 still doesn't have RTO we are all wondering" why are they posting this when we still cant play the dlc that everyone else can."

[Ryukahn]

I do not have any problems with not being able to have any new romances as long as the loyalty meter is still in the game and their responses change depending on where the meter is at, even though I will miss Morrigan a lot! However, I do hope the characters are interesting. So far Sigrun seems like the only interesting one.

[Parame]

No romance, this killed at least half my expectations of the add on.

And now I can't import dlc content?

What seriously? Is this a joke, or are devs trying to kill the sales on purpose?

I paid for DLC just as I paid for the full game. Why I am not allowed to equip those in the expansion? Isn't the advantage of devs made content over fan made content to garantee that we can have that content with us in the game and in futur expansions?



There was no mention of DLC items not being useable in futur expansions when I downloaded them. If I knew I would have kept a set of item that could be used even in the Awakening.

Now I will have to start the expansion with a pair a boot, a belt, and one or two more items since all the other items are from DLCs ! Why would I have kept an inferior set of items with the limited inventory we have?

Seriously not cool...



I guess I'll just wait for user content and for DA 2.

[MacroSamurai]

Guys, everyone who's boo-hooing about the lack of the DLC content in Awakening should consider that we're going to be at much higher levels with --apparently-- higher tiers of items anyway. We'll get *better* gear and it probably won't be any more than 10 minutes into the game before we get those first few delicious pieces.