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[Cutlass Jack]

Wowlock wrote...

Well I think we can see multiple pages next week. But my guess will be this guy being captured by one of our ingame lieutanents and we have to jugde his fate.

My guess is we'll find his headless corpse on the ground in the keep with Sandal standing nearby. "Enchantment!"

[Bryy_Miller]

blademaster7 wrote...

This douche is a companion? Please tell me I can kill him... please

I doubt that he'll be a companion.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 06 mars 2010 - 06:08 .

[alexa_025]

errant_knight wrote...

This character seems to posess a Ser Cautherin like blind loyalty. More so, actually. Ser Cautherin knew that Loghain's actions were wrong. This fellow believes charges against one of the most respected families in Fereldan entirely on Howe's say-so.

I know, right? My Couslands are going to go ballistic. Grave crimes? Far as I know, the Couslands' only crime was to have more than Howe did. This guy won't be keeping his head for very long if my dual-wielding nobles have anything to say about it.

Modifié par alexa_025, 06 mars 2010 - 07:26 .

[_- Songlian -]

Wow, that is one serious misinformed guy.

[blademaster7]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

This douche is a companion? Please tell me I can kill him... please

I doubt that he'll be a companion.

He is. I saw him in the party formation in some screenshots(see IGN)

[spike cougar]

I feel dirty for even being the one to bring this up (especially since my HNF is another one of those who will go ballistic if we get to meet this guy and hear his claims in Awakenings), but we don't actually know that he's misinformed.  I can't help but think of the gift from Orlais that the Eleanor said Bryce brought back (and how, whether or not she realized it, it might not have been a "mistake"--if you get my meaning).  And if you buy what Avernus says, the Couslands have at least once tried to aid rebellion against the crown.  Not that Howe was necessarily in the right, by any means, but the Couslands could just have been playing at the same game of tweaking history as Howe was.

That said, I should probably go hide from the other Cousland players.     And see if I can make myself feel any less filthy for even bringing it up...

Modifié par spike cougar, 06 mars 2010 - 08:49 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

spike cougar wrote...

I feel dirty for even being the one to bring this up (especially since my HNF is another one of those who will go ballistic if we get to meet this guy and hear his claims in Awakenings), but we don't actually know that he's misinformed.  I can't help but think of the gift from Orlais that the Eleanor said Bryce brought back (and how, whether or not she realized it, it might not have been a "mistake"--if you get my meaning).  And if you buy what Avernus says, the Couslands have at least once tried to aid rebellion against the crown.  Not that Howe was necessarily in the right, by any means, but the Couslands could just have been playing at the same game of tweaking history as Howe was.

That said, I should probably go hide from the other Cousland players.     And see if I can make myself feel any less filthy for even bringing it up...

Blasphemy! Prepare the bonfire!

[alexa_025]

spike cougar wrote...

I feel dirty for even being the one to bring this up (especially since my HNF is another one of those who will go ballistic if we get to meet this guy and hear his claims in Awakenings), but we don't actually know that he's misinformed.  I can't help but think of the gift from Orlais that the Eleanor said Bryce brought back (and how, whether or not she realized it, it might not have been a "mistake"--if you get my meaning).  And if you buy what Avernus says, the Couslands have at least once tried to aid rebellion against the crown.  Not that Howe was necessarily in the right, by any means, but the Couslands could just have been playing at the same game of tweaking history as Howe was.

That said, I should probably go hide from the other Cousland players.     And see if I can make myself feel any less filthy for even bringing it up...

Actually, you have a point there. But in terms of role-playing, it will be hard for a member of the aggrieved family to take whatever this guy says at face value, particularly if he's as devoted to Howe as he seems. I see that uber-loyal Loghain soldier the PC met in Lothering in him where no matter what you say he clings to his belief in his superior. 

Also, wasn't it mentioned that Bryce did have support for the throne against Cailan? As the only other teyrn in Ferelden, I think he and his family may have also been considered a threat to Loghain et al's political ambitions. This is gonna be one hell of a chat if he doesn't annoy the Couslands too much.  

Modifié par alexa_025, 06 mars 2010 - 09:11 .

[RationalDelirium]

Still, wouldn't be intersting to have such loyalty for the warden?

I'm having constrasting feeling toward the protagonist of this comic and, if he's gonna be one of the recruitable companions it will surely be intersting

[Agelico]

spike cougar wrote...

I feel dirty for even being the one to bring this up (especially since my HNF is another one of those who will go ballistic if we get to meet this guy and hear his claims in Awakenings), but we don't actually know that he's misinformed.  I can't help but think of the gift from Orlais that the Eleanor said Bryce brought back (and how, whether or not she realized it, it might not have been a "mistake"--if you get my meaning).  And if you buy what Avernus says, the Couslands have at least once tried to aid rebellion against the crown.  Not that Howe was necessarily in the right, by any means, but the Couslands could just have been playing at the same game of tweaking history as Howe was.

That said, I should probably go hide from the other Cousland players.     And see if I can make myself feel any less filthy for even bringing it up...

Actually I think so too. Our HNs are as single-minded as this guy in the comic. They unquestionably trust the Couslands' innocence. And though Howe may have killed them not for their crimes, we don't know what Bryce was up to. Maybe something even worse than that what Howe did.

Modifié par Agelico, 06 mars 2010 - 10:02 .

[spike cougar]

alexa_025 wrote...

Actually, you have a point there. But in terms
of role-playing, it will be hard for a member of the aggrieved family to
take whatever this guy says at face value, particularly if he's as
devoted to Howe as he seems. I see that uber-loyal Loghain soldier the
PC met in Lothering in him where no matter what you say he clings to his
belief in his superior. 

Also, wasn't it mentioned that Bryce
did have support for the throne against Cailan? As the only other teyrn
in Ferelden, I think he and his family may have also been considered a
threat to Loghain et al's political ambitions. This is gonna be one hell
of a chat if he doesn't annoy the Couslands too much. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] 

I know what you mean!  If this guy ends up being a companion like people
are speculating, my HN is going to have a tough time not refusing him or
killing him outright.  On the other hand, the tensions their meeting
should bring up ought to be interesting (to say the least).  I was thinking of playing through with my DN first, just because she had handled invoking the Warden treaties with much more tragic results (she made a lot of bad decisions :innocent:), but this comic and the statements that most of Awakenings takes place in lands that formerly belonged to the Howes is making me really excited for playing through Awakenings with my HN.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

Agelico wrote...

Actually I think so too. Our HNs are as single-minded as this guy in the comic. They unquestionably trust the Couslands' innocence. And though Howe may have killed them not for their crimes, we don't know what Bryce was up to. Maybe something even worse than that what Howe did.

Yes, that's been bothering me since Howe made the claim (which to me it seemed he obviously believed, even if no one else in Ferelden did) that the Couslands were traitors.  But I also like to make things more complicated than they need to be, so maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself.

Modifié par spike cougar, 06 mars 2010 - 04:58 .

[Venatio]

alexa_025 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

This character seems to posess a Ser Cautherin like blind loyalty. More so, actually. Ser Cautherin knew that Loghain's actions were wrong. This fellow believes charges against one of the most respected families in Fereldan entirely on Howe's say-so.

I know, right? My Couslands are going to go ballistic. Grave crimes? Far as I know, the Couslands' only crime was to have more than Howe did. This guy won't be keeping his head for very long if my dual-wielding nobles have anything to say about it.

I know, my Noble is having a ragegasm, I want to rip this guy to ribbons!

And where the hell has he been? In a coma, or somewhere other then Fereldan because he knows next to nothing about whats going on. 

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Venatio wrote...

alexa_025 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

This character seems to posess a Ser Cautherin like blind loyalty. More so, actually. Ser Cautherin knew that Loghain's actions were wrong. This fellow believes charges against one of the most respected families in Fereldan entirely on Howe's say-so.

I know, right? My Couslands are going to go ballistic. Grave crimes? Far as I know, the Couslands' only crime was to have more than Howe did. This guy won't be keeping his head for very long if my dual-wielding nobles have anything to say about it.

I know, my Noble is having a ragegasm, I want to rip this guy to ribbons!

And where the hell has he been? In a coma, or somewhere other then Fereldan because he knows next to nothing about whats going on. 

He was probably busy MURDERING some noble houses to protect his lovely Arl Haowe. Got cought up in his work a bit, it seems.

[Witcha]

This guy is hopelessly deluded. So Howe was the patriot and everyone else was a traitor? Does he forget that the reigning KING/QUEEN Alistair/Anora themselves declared Howe a murderer and traitor? Or does he regard them as Orlesian puppets, too?

[UrsulaCousland]

I am watching the comic with great interest (been a PA fan for years and years), but I have to admit I'm trying to keep down some Cousland rage of my own.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Apparently, his name is Nathaniel Howe. That's what the prima guide says at least.

So that might explain his otherwise not so pertinent fascination with Rendon. My Human Noble will be looking forward to make him see reason and attempt to restore his family honor. I can't judge someone for someone else's crimes unless he is persistent in his animosity towards my PC.

[Godak]

Alright, BioWare. I want my cookie, now!



...Shaken, not stirred.

[Agelico]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Apparently, his name is Nathaniel Howe. That's what the prima guide says at least.

The prima guide says the name of the guy in PA comic? Weird. But anyways, does it say who is he to Rendon? And to Thomas?

[Starlight]

spike cougar wrote...

And if you buy what Avernus says, the Couslands have at least once tried to aid rebellion against the crown.  Not that Howe was necessarily in the right, by any means, but the Couslands could just have been playing at the same game of tweaking history as Howe was.

If I remember the information right, Avernus has said the Couslands has rebel against the King of Ferelden - when Highever does not included into Ferelden at that moment. So the Couslands are not the traitors, they just defend their land against the "invaders".

Also, when people fight back against Orlesian, Couslands join force with the King while the Howes forge an allience with Orlesian. Couslands has to defeated the Howes and force them to help the King gain back Ferelden. So Howes are the traitors instead of the Couslands. I just wonder why this man doesn't know the history and think highly of the Howes.

[Witcha]

You're just overanalysing. It's an RPG game with a story that's supposed to make sense to the player. If you thought like that you'd never be sure about anything at all. For example are you really a human logging on a computer? By your logic, anything could be true; like maybe you're an alien parasitic organism feeding on the dreams of the real Eli-da-Mage who's in a coma. Anything's possible. Doesn't mean it's true.

Howe killed the Couslands because he was jealous of their power. He says so right to your face(if you're a Human Noble) and as such I'd regard it as fact.

Modifié par Witcha, 07 mars 2010 - 04:09 .

[Witcha]

How do you know? If you absorbed the memories of the real one you'd think you weren't. We could all just be misinformed. There's no way to be sure, is there?

Modifié par Witcha, 07 mars 2010 - 02:24 .

[Witcha]

You don't. This whole world is a grand illusion created by the Hive-mind of the Xaluthian tyrants of Planet Xenu! MUHAHAHAHAHA!:alien: