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#101
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Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

The Power of Blood abilities do carry forward into Awakening. We just answered that in a Q&A yesterday.


I can't believe this patently false statement was made 4 months ago and hasn't been corrected by anyone at Bioware.

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I dont have awakening yet because of the high price (40€ wtf!) but i shouldnt buy DLC as well i guess huh ? lol

Wello saves me some money and nerves. But why not create your own blood armor with the toolset ,slap on some uber skills and this armor is worth 20€ hows that sound :P

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Great I cant play my character from DA:O in DA:A, because Im naked. I only bought awakenings to carry on where I left off, like it said in the advertisement, only I cant because my characters naked. If it was random DLC I could understand that, but its wardens gear, offical gear. I feel like bioware have lied to me and Ive bought awakenings under false advetisement, who do I see to get a refund on this game.



What has happened to bioware, used to be such a good company :(




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Astragaal wrote...

Great I cant play my character from DA:O in DA:A, because Im naked. I only bought awakenings to carry on where I left off, like it said in the advertisement, only I cant because my characters naked. If it was random DLC I could understand that, but its wardens gear, offical gear. I feel like bioware have lied to me and Ive bought awakenings under false advetisement, who do I see to get a refund on this game.


Bodhan; be sure to remind him of your discount.....

What has happened to bioware, used to be such a good company :(


Still is; just the community became larger and became more insufferable.

Try changing gear from what you ended DAO in the last rather convenient Save, as it has been some time since that event. You can sell, trade with NPC's, and even purchase some goods still in the Camp or Soldier's Peak shops Get sandal to alter runes, or simply carry them into the next mod. And save the whine for Wynne; she prefers it....
 
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Doesnt matter found a mod (player made that ports me and all my kit) either bioware are retards who cant code there own work or theyre lazy or theyre setting up for another 722 pt DLC to grab more money. Im a lot less cynical about DLC than I was it works fine for the total series for example, but biowares way of doing thing is retarded - well money grubbing, either way it paints them in a very poor light.

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^ Says the blind man evidenced by the clearly intelligent post on the Bioware forums about using a mod made on the Bioware Toolkit; the FREE ones. heh!

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Elhanan wrote...

^ Says the blind man evidenced by the clearly intelligent post on the Bioware forums about using a mod made on the Bioware Toolkit; the FREE ones. heh!



Dude, his point still stands. We shouldn't be relying on community mods to use official content that we've paid for in an official expansion .
In addition, console users are still screwed.

Modifié par Maedryc, 22 juin 2010 - 09:53 .


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Maedryc wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

^ Says the blind man evidenced by the clearly intelligent post on the Bioware forums about using a mod made on the Bioware Toolkit; the FREE ones. heh!


Dude, his point still stands. We shouldn't be relying on community mods to use official content that we've paid for in an official expansion .
In addition, console users are still screwed.


Dude, I did't have to. I just did not insist that I continue to wear my Warden's armor; used Wade's Superior instead. And while I miss Starfang, I used one of the myriad of other longswords I collected, or was able to trade with the party back in camp,

I guess I am just retarded or lazy for playing the game with the rules that were included. But I am content to pay those money grubbin' folks at Bioware for selling me this wondermous escape from RL in the first place. Oh Dopey me!

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Elhanan wrote...

Maedryc wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

^ Says the blind man evidenced by the clearly intelligent post on the Bioware forums about using a mod made on the Bioware Toolkit; the FREE ones. heh!


Dude, his point still stands. We shouldn't be relying on community mods to use official content that we've paid for in an official expansion .
In addition, console users are still screwed.


Dude, I did't have to. I just did not insist that I continue to wear my Warden's armor; used Wade's Superior instead. And while I miss Starfang, I used one of the myriad of other longswords I collected, or was able to trade with the party back in camp,

I guess I am just retarded or lazy for playing the game with the rules that were included. But I am content to pay those money grubbin' folks at Bioware for selling me this wondermous escape from RL in the first place. Oh Dopey me!

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Yes.
The problem is that while you don't feel that this kind of stuff is a deal breaker for you, he's still right.
Incidentally, it's not a deal breaker for me, either ( since I bought Awakening, even though I'm not going to buy any more DLCs ), but still, the fact that the community has done far more to fix the game than bioware itself is absurd, especially considering that most community "fixes" aren't exactly hard to implement.

If I buy a car, I'm still going to complain if I find that the air conditioner is broken, even if the car can still take me from place A to place B. YMMV.

#110
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My game has the same patches as anyone, but only one mod and I guess I have invested almost 500+ hrs.

I am not saying folks do not have the right to complain, I am saying they often come across as immature, ungrateful, entitled, etc, esp seeing as they are 'driving' a car with free tools in the trunk, free tuneups, full access to the company on free forums, and ongoing options available.

But as I had to drive a real car for 5 summers w/o A/C, maybe I simply appreciate not having to do so for this one.

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Elhanan wrote...

My game has the same patches as anyone, but only one mod and I guess I have invested almost 500+ hrs.
I am not saying folks do not have the right to complain, I am saying they often come across as immature, ungrateful, entitled, etc, esp seeing as they are 'driving' a car with free tools in the trunk, free tuneups, full access to the company on free forums, and ongoing options available.
But as I had to drive a real car for 5 summers w/o A/C, maybe I simply appreciate not having to do so for this one.


I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree here, then, because while I consider people that ask for free DLCs entitled, I don't consider someone who wants to use something he's paid for entitled, immature or ungrateful.
And this coming from someone who appreciates and trusts Bioware enough to buy Mass Effect 2 sight unseen 
( and since my pc is pretty old I won't be able to play until I get to upgrade it ).
BTW, while I agree that Bioware creates great CRPGs, it's not like they're handing them out for free, so it's not like they're making us a favor, and I don't see why I shoud feel grateful, unless you think that they should be grateful that we're spending our money on their games as well.

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Maedryc wrote...

I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree here, then, because while I consider people that ask for free DLCs entitled, I don't consider someone who wants to use something he's paid for entitled, immature or ungrateful.
And this coming from someone who appreciates and trusts Bioware enough to buy Mass Effect 2 sight unseen 
( and since my pc is pretty old I won't be able to play until I get to upgrade it ).
BTW, while I agree that Bioware creates great CRPGs, it's not like they're handing them out for free, so it's not like they're making us a favor, and I don't see why I shoud feel grateful, unless you think that they should be grateful that we're spending our money on their games as well.


But using terms such as retarded, stupid, lazy, money grubbing, etc. appears to be such an indication, as well as weakening any kind of point in the debate. You think such behaviour is justified; I do not, and most likely never will.
If it walks like a horse, and brays like a mule, odds seem to idicate that it ain't a duck.....

#113
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Bioware needs to fix these problems officially. I play the console version and cant download any of the mods. I remember Bioware stating in an interview that some of the comunity mods would be ported over to the consoles. These mods are needed to play the game properly.

I dont beleave that bioware really cares about fixing these problems. At least not enough to spent the required resources to fix them.

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"Believe what you will. Open your arms wide, or shut one's eyes tight, either way, one's a fool!"

http://social.biowar...4/index/2916060

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And for what it's worth, the link Elhanan so graciously posted is to the third patch progress update Bioware has made. As far as the DLC not importing, I never had Starfang, and I'd given away the other affected items; even if I hadn't, my warden wouldn't have felt right about keeping the Warden Commander armor and returned it to the Dryden family as an heirloom.

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Elhanan wrote...

Maedryc wrote...

I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree here, then, because while I consider people that ask for free DLCs entitled, I don't consider someone who wants to use something he's paid for entitled, immature or ungrateful.
And this coming from someone who appreciates and trusts Bioware enough to buy Mass Effect 2 sight unseen 
( and since my pc is pretty old I won't be able to play until I get to upgrade it ).
BTW, while I agree that Bioware creates great CRPGs, it's not like they're handing them out for free, so it's not like they're making us a favor, and I don't see why I shoud feel grateful, unless you think that they should be grateful that we're spending our money on their games as well.


But using terms such as retarded, stupid, lazy, money grubbing, etc. appears to be such an indication, as well as weakening any kind of point in the debate. You think such behaviour is justified; I do not, and most likely never will.
If it walks like a horse, and brays like a mule, odds seem to idicate that it ain't a duck.....


I never said that I justified insults.
OTOH, being rude doesn't mean that you don't have a point.
Reporting someone's post due to the fact that he violates the CoC and is rude is one thing, saying that since someone is behaving rudely he doesn't have a point doesn't logically follow, though.
Especially considering that you called him blind and commented on his intelligence ( or lack thereof ), so what does that make for  your point according to your logic? ;)

Modifié par Maedryc, 23 juin 2010 - 11:34 .


#117
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Again, I did not attempt to deny anyone their right to either an informed opinion, or to complain. But I, as one very small person in the Bioware community, grow weary of the whining exhibited earlier.

Now all of us had clear access to the FAQ, game info, etc., but some feel that because they were uninformed over their purchases, they are due compensation (or because I was ignorant over the facts, I should get rewarded). Or did I misread?

And if my pointing all this out by commenting on blindness and intelligence by those that resort to such namecalling tactics seems to be equally as harsh, then I am guilty. I will have to drown my guilt in 20 silver's worth of Diet Coke.....

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Elhanan wrote...

Again, I did not attempt to deny anyone their right to either an informed opinion, or to complain. But I, as one very small person in the Bioware community, grow weary of the whining exhibited earlier.
Now all of us had clear access to the FAQ, game info, etc., but some feel that because they were uninformed over their purchases, they are due compensation (or because I was ignorant over the facts, I should get rewarded). Or did I misread?
And if my pointing all this out by commenting on blindness and intelligence by those that resort to such namecalling tactics seems to be equally as harsh, then I am guilty. I will have to drown my guilt in 20 silver's worth of Diet Coke.....



You are, in fact, misreading. The problem is not that we were not informed before we bought Awakening that Soldier's Peak gear wouldn't carry on in the expansion: the problem is that we should have been informed before we bought Soldier's Peak. Big difference here.

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Let me get this correct; we should have been informed that DLC crafted and released prior to a later exansion would not work in that expansion? Not asking for much, are we? I would also liked to have known my wife was leaving me before I got married, who plays in the next Superbowl, and a few other like precognative events of worth. But I shall not bank on it occuring.any time soon.

Unless you actually believe Bioware decided to make DAA with the intended purpose of excluding prior DLC, you appear to be on rather thin ice.

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Elhanan wrote...

Unless you actually believe Bioware decided to make DAA with the intended purpose of excluding prior DLC, you appear to be on rather thin ice.

Actually, that is exactly what I believe.  Given that the mod community was easily able to fix this issue, there is no other explanation possible.

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"Open one's arms wide, or shut one's eyes tight, either way one's a fool"

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Zanderat wrote...

Actually, that is exactly what
I believe.  Given that the mod community was easily able to fix
this issue, there is no other explanation possible.


Considering that all DLC except Return to Ostagar was completed and tested for compliance with Microsoft and Sony game console compatibility requirements before Awakening was in any condition to be tested itself, your belief is absurd. Bioware informed the community when they were able to, and if they care as much about making customers happy as I believe they do, they will make something available to compensate for the inconvenience people have experienced. They know how to do it; all that needs to happen is them doing it.

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ladydesire wrote...

Zanderat wrote...

Actually, that is exactly what
I believe.  Given that the mod community was easily able to fix
this issue, there is no other explanation possible.


Considering that all DLC except Return to Ostagar was completed and tested for compliance with Microsoft and Sony game console compatibility requirements before Awakening was in any condition to be tested itself, your belief is absurd. Bioware informed the community when they were able to, and if they care as much about making customers happy as I believe they do, they will make something available to compensate for the inconvenience people have experienced. They know how to do it; all that needs to happen is them doing it.

Firstly, what does compatibility testing have to do with importying DLC items? 

Secondly, you are right.  "all that needs to happen is them doing it".   Given how long DA:A has been out, what do you believe the odds of that happening?

Thirdly, LITERALLY no other expansion (as opposed to a true stand alone sequel) that I have played, has had this issue.  For example, Shivering Isles allowed you to freely go back and forth and keep both your items from, say, KOTN and SI with no issues.

Modifié par Zanderat, 27 juin 2010 - 04:17 .


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Zanderat wrote...

Firstly, what does compatibility testing have to do with
importying DLC items?


The item templates for the affected armors, swords, and rings are stored in an encrypted file, with toolset settings that mark them as usable only in the Single Player (Origins) campaign. Making those either Core Game Resources (what Bioware did for Return to Ostagar) or making new item-only DLCs (like Bregan's Bow) that have two versions (one for Awakening, since the existing versions already work in Origins) require that the new or altered content be tested before Microsoft or Sony would allow them to be distributed. 

Secondly, you are right.  "all that needs to happen is them
doing it".   Given how long DA:A has been out, what do you
believe the odds of that happening?


They could have them done, but be holding them until the patch is ready to be sent for testing by the console makers, which makes sense to me; yes, I do have most of the affected DLC items, but I didn't feel that having the items took priority over bug fixes.

Thirdly, LITERALLY no other expansion (as opposed to a true
stand alone sequel) that I have played, has had this issue. 
For example, Shivering Isles allowed you to freely go back and
forth and keep both your items from, say, KOTN and SI with no
issues.


Blame the PC modding community then, because the system that Bioware used to add content is something we've asked for since probably the second or third year that Nevewinter Nights was out so we wouldn't have to be constantly editing game files every time Bioware released a patch for the game we were modding.

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I just want my Sentinal armor to look like its suppose to on my warden. Is that really too much to ask? I mean damn I shell out 40 bucks and cant even get a properly working game. I love Bioware but is their Q and A team must be asleep at the wheel. Best looking armor in the game and only Odgren can equip it...WTF. And dont get me started on Vigilance.