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harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.

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Sawp wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.


Ok if u did betray cerberus, the sr-2 is yours, and if u didn't betray cerberus, the amount they spent making the sr-2 makes it unlikely they'll make u a new one.

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Sometime in ME3:

Shepard has the engine run full power, in the terminus systems. No stealth systems are engaged whatsoever. All weapons are called offline. He has Joker's chair pulled back a few feet. He is waiting, all the crew are already loaded into the emergency shuttles. After half an hour, Shepard gives up and calls Jack to play some pirate. SR2 is blown up soon, and Shepard goes to Cerberus for a brand new frigate. They gladly build him one, since they have become extensively rich from the technology found and sold in the Collector base.

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harry dread wrote...

Sawp wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.


Ok if u did betray cerberus, the sr-2 is yours, and if u didn't betray cerberus, the amount they spent making the sr-2 makes it unlikely they'll make u a new one.


Wouldn't that be technically space piracy?

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KitsuneRommel wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Sawp wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.


Ok if u did betray cerberus, the sr-2 is yours, and if u didn't betray cerberus, the amount they spent making the sr-2 makes it unlikely they'll make u a new one.


Wouldn't that be technically space piracy?



hmmm is it piracy when its cerberus? somehow i don't see a bunch of terrorists complaining to the space police to be honest Image IPB

Modifié par harry dread, 21 mai 2010 - 02:01 .


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You know what i acutally miss most in the game? Was whenever you would go groundside the SR-1's VI logging "The commanding officer is ashore, XO Pressley has the deck." It just made it feel so real because in the military every change in command and everytime anyone goes ashore it's logged. In ME3 i'm hoping we get to keep the new Normandy, but that your given back your specter status to the point to where it comes in handy again. And that you become part of either the alliance military again... or part of the Citidel fleet. So this way you still have a huge kick butt frigate but drop all the stupid cerberus cr@p i really hope bioware doesn't think that this makes the game more fun playing as a cerberus agent. I was very upset the way the storyline was played out. Still like the game though just expected better in terms of a story from Bioware.

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Sawp wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.


Implying that the Illusive Man hasn't already predicted your betrayal and/or had contingencies in place.

Remember, as narrative tropes go, he is the guy who always knows what is going to happen. He's one step ahead.

In fact, due to his persistent urging to return Shep to life at the beginning of ME2 exactly as he was when he died, I'd argue that any decision you made at the end of the game was not only part of his MASTERPLAN!, but also probably irrelevant.

I mean, you steal a ship from him? And a crew? From an organization with, essentially, unlimited resources. It's a drop in the ocean.

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I don't see u re joining the alliance military to be honest. far more likely you'll stay with cerberus, or if your being all paragon, go independant. I honestly don't see the alliance letting u keep the sr-2 if u go back to them, and as for the crew, since their almost all cerberus wouldn't they be done for treason? wouldn't u?



As a spectre u are completly independent of anyone, u choose your ship, your crew and anything else u want.

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SomeBug wrote...

Sawp wrote...

harry dread wrote...

Since at the end of ME2 u have technically stolen the sr2 from cerberus, i'd say lets keep it and upgrade it again. plus EDI and joker love in needs to carry on :)


Not all of us have chosen to betray Cerberus. 
I wonder if that will change anything.


Implying that the Illusive Man hasn't already predicted your betrayal and/or had contingencies in place.

Remember, as narrative tropes go, he is the guy who always knows what is going to happen. He's one step ahead.

In fact, due to his persistent urging to return Shep to life at the beginning of ME2 exactly as he was when he died, I'd argue that any decision you made at the end of the game was not only part of his MASTERPLAN!, but also probably irrelevant.

I mean, you steal a ship from him? And a crew? From an organization with, essentially, unlimited resources. It's a drop in the ocean.


You make a very good point there, you betraying TIM at the end of the game would probably be something he's planned for. But who's to say his contingency wasn't that miranda would do the right thing by him? or even EDI? Did he even plan for them to survive? The ship does contain a lot of ppl who could make life very hard for him. Would Thane have decided to make the universe better by killing TIM? would Jack?

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[quote]MrAnthonyDraft wrote...

[quote]Silger wrote...

Normandy SR-3....dreadnought! booya son[/quote]

The problem is, drednoughts won't be called Normandy, because only frigates are named after great battles of humanity. I forgot what were dreadnoughts called for. Highest mountains like Kilimanjaro? i forgot :o

dreadnoughts refer to battleships and in the US Navy battleships were named after states. 

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Lets stick with the SR-2 and just have to upgrade it. A dreadnought doesn't really seem suited for the types of missions Team Reaper Killer goes on.

I know this may sound trivial, but I'd really like to see the captain's quarters have more of a purpose. It would be nice to have some sort of mini games on Shep's private terminal though. And maybe actually getting medals for earning achievements that can be put up on a display like the ship models.

I totally agree i think you should be able to obtain like service medals like the Navy cross and stuff and have them displayed in your quarters and then when you go to look that them you hit the "A" button and it shows like a quick replay or cinimatic day dream of the battle you earned it in and like the short 10 second thing you did to get it like pulling a man away from a fire fight whos wounded or something. I would also like it if you could actually choose to sit down or layy down in your bed you know?

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However if they decide to try to pull it off. Make it so all the crew members come together in a voltron-esque formation sequence complete with fast moving, low detail, backgrounds. As the giant robot, deemed Model-SR3, you sword fight the reapers in the style of Zone of Enders. The awesome strobe lighting effects from the exchange of blows will be well worth the seizures it induces.

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Normandy30 wrote...

kraze07 wrote...

Lets stick with the SR-2 and just have to upgrade it. A dreadnought doesn't really seem suited for the types of missions Team Reaper Killer goes on.

I know this may sound trivial, but I'd really like to see the captain's quarters have more of a purpose. It would be nice to have some sort of mini games on Shep's private terminal though. And maybe actually getting medals for earning achievements that can be put up on a display like the ship models.

I totally agree i think you should be able to obtain like service medals like the Navy cross and stuff and have them displayed in your quarters and then when you go to look that them you hit the "A" button and it shows like a quick replay or cinimatic day dream of the battle you earned it in and like the short 10 second thing you did to get it like pulling a man away from a fire fight whos wounded or something. I would also like it if you could actually choose to sit down or layy down in your bed you know?

Better yet if Shepard could wear the medals on his casual clothes.

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No new ship, but I guess there will be a slew of new upgrades coming along for the ride... what those upgrades will be I can't even begin to fathom, but I guess they will be cool :)

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I highly doubt a new Normandy is necessary. I mean, if you look at Mass Effect so far, they have followed the trilogy archetype fairly well:



Mass Effect 1: Introduced you into the universe, discovered the threat, but didn't obliterate it.



Mass Effect 2: Radical changes take place in the second entry of any trilogy. New ship, crew, team, objective, and oh yea, you DIED. :) The fight against the main threat can go two separate way: 1) You fight against a branch of the main enemy (Collectors), or-like The Empire Strikes Back- the enemy gets the jump on the good guys. Either way, it ends with the main threat open and ready to take on in the final part



Now to ME3...If it follows the trilogy archetype, that means no new team (except a few new additions) and no new ship.



......Back on topic, I don't think there will be a new Normandy :D

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I think the SR2 will be damaged in the early stage of the game, destroying your upgrades. This allows you to have to remodify it. And this time, you can probably play around with the paint scheme since you're probably not Cerberus anymore, so the Cerberus paint scheme and all those Cerberus logos can be removed. And the SR2 being rebuilt will allow for additional rooms or whatever. In any case, it's an RPG, so something will happen to force you to have to upgrade the ship again.

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Sajuro wrote...

Better yet if Shepard could wear the medals on his casual clothes.


I don't think the medals would look good on femsheps casual dress.

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Seems to me that the Normandy is no more since EDI has achieved sentience. Hopefully, for Paragons, the Rachni will be able to provide some deluxe ship TLC to fix all the damage inflicted at the end of ME2.

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Reading some of the newer posts i will say this, Dont forget the very last scene for paragone, is Shepard walking on board the Normandy with a data pad in hand. When he holds it up to look it over it appears to have schmatics for a reaper. And in the ending when shepard dies he hands the data pad to joker and says take this they need to know! So it might contain enough proof that the reapers are real and get the Coucil or Alliance to finall accept the fact of what is happening. Thus making the charges of treason not stand a chance when they see what you did to save them AGAIN! so they probably would let you back into the Alliance or as i said before into the Citidel fleet. And even if you told them to take their spectur status and shut it where the sun doesn't shine they would prbably beg you to take it back and work for them. And then you could be like it would be an honor! Or go renegade and tell them to pay you to take it

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No, it would make a rather boring story if they used the same plot device two times. But a extensive renovation and upgrading to make it feel new and interesting could work.

I might reluctantly accept a new Normandy though, but only if Aeytha works in my bar on the new ship.

How about Normandy AND a new different ship? A ship specialised for other things than Normandy. I would love traveling in a rachni or turian frigate.

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Normandy30 wrote...

Reading some of the newer posts i will say this, Dont forget the very last scene for paragone, is Shepard walking on board the Normandy with a data pad in hand. When he holds it up to look it over it appears to have schmatics for a reaper. And in the ending when shepard dies he hands the data pad to joker and says take this they need to know! So it might contain enough proof that the reapers are real and get the Coucil or Alliance to finall accept the fact of what is happening. Thus making the charges of treason not stand a chance when they see what you did to save them AGAIN! so they probably would let you back into the Alliance or as i said before into the Citidel fleet. And even if you told them to take their spectur status and shut it where the sun doesn't shine they would prbably beg you to take it back and work for them. And then you could be like it would be an honor! Or go renegade and tell them to pay you to take it


Maybe you are right, although I get the sense Shepard will transition to persona non grata in Council space for ME3. Renegades will have support from Cereberus and reaper tech so they should be fairly self-sufficient. It'll be interesting to see what options paragons have in ME 3.

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Normandy30 wrote...

Reading some of the newer posts i will say this, Dont forget the very last scene for paragone, is Shepard walking on board the Normandy with a data pad in hand. When he holds it up to look it over it appears to have schmatics for a reaper. And in the ending when shepard dies he hands the data pad to joker and says take this they need to know! So it might contain enough proof that the reapers are real and get the Coucil or Alliance to finall accept the fact of what is happening. Thus making the charges of treason not stand a chance when they see what you did to save them AGAIN! so they probably would let you back into the Alliance or as i said before into the Citidel fleet. And even if you told them to take their spectur status and shut it where the sun doesn't shine they would prbably beg you to take it back and work for them. And then you could be like it would be an honor! Or go renegade and tell them to pay you to take it


Maybe you are right, although I get the sense Shepard will transition to persona non grata in Council space for ME3. Renegades will have support from Cereberus and reaper tech so they should be fairly self-sufficient. It'll be interesting to see what options paragons have in ME 3.

I created both... so i will see both end of the spectrum, only thing i have not done is have shepard die i dunno how the hell you do that... From what i hear though a rep from BioWare said that that's the end of the game ME is shepards story so if you die the story dies with him and you just cant import that file into ME3. I think it would bbe awsome though if you could be part of the Citidel fleet as a spectur flagship, go to your private terminal andd be able to call other ships to dock with you. Maybe give Garrus like a Turian curiser to command and you could give his ship orders and such through your terminal and you could link up and go aboard their ships.... totally not going to happen but one can dream.Image IPB

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After the damage done to the normandy at (spoiler la la la spoiler) it's seriously gonna need a major refit sr-2.1. either cerberus, the council or the alliance will have to bankroll that one.

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Normandy30 wrote.... Maybe give Garrus like a Turian curiser to command and you could give his ship orders and such through your terminal and you could link up and go aboard their ships.... totally not going to happen but one can dream.Image IPB

Yeah, great idea. It would make sense if the other races made their own stealthed frigates like Normandy.
Garrus commands the turian frigate who have a extra strong armour.
Legion commands the geth frigate who have extra strong shields.
Samara commands the asari frigate who are extra fast.
Etc, etc...
Each ship would have special missions suited for them especialy and a look typical for their race both on the exterior and the interior. Yeah, it might impossible to do but it's still a cool thing to dream about.

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I think the SR2 will be damaged in the early stage of the game, destroying your upgrades. This allows you to have to remodify it. And this time, you can probably play around with the paint scheme since you're probably not Cerberus anymore, so the Cerberus paint scheme and all those Cerberus logos can be removed. And the SR2 being rebuilt will allow for additional rooms or whatever. In any case, it's an RPG, so something will happen to force you to have to upgrade the ship again.

the alliance will probably accept it as a affiliate ship and help remodify it (newer rooms, different Comm. Conference room, different quarters), making it the SR3.B)