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[UBER GEEKZILLA]

all the time i see people saying how bioware is going down hill becasue of EA, why i think most of mass effect 2 succes is because it got more hype thanks to ea...what has ea dobe thats so bad

[XfStef]

for the same reason that all good games are going down when they get bought by ea... they DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ART !!! THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

[Darth Drago]

Might be their company motto “Can’t beat them, buy them.“



Only the bigwigs of BioWare and those at EA will actually know what, if anything has been done to change the way BioWare makes games. A lot of people seem to think the changes to Mass Effect 2 was from pressure by EA. I’m sure some even expected to see an EA logo in the actual game someplace.

[XfStef]

It's obvious ea wanted more action in this game, that's why bio scrapped the rpg characteristics of it... and you know, we deserve it... because human kind is stupid....



we are obviously moved only the action, drugs and sex.... fuc* everything else... if that gets them moeny, they will do it ....



fuc* you human kind !

[RighteousRage]

In short, they are partially responsible for games turning to the direction of the music industry - mass-producing low-quality products with a heavy emphasis on marketing and production rather than art, originality, quality assurance, etc. etc.



Basically they are skilled businesspeople but don't care for video games

[BLY78NOR]

EA hate is soooo 2005 it's all about activision now.



Seriously though, a lot of the stuff i used to hate about EA has changed they're not nearly as bad as they once was

[XfStef]

they still su** balls for buying out everything else and turning everything in Madden ! god I hate those kind of games .... YEA !! IT'S FOOTBALL !!! actually it's american rugby you d kheads, football is what you call soccer

[KalReegar]

EA buys out respectable developers, then destroys their reputation and the franchises they have built and when the studio underperforms, it gets the axe. Origin Studios, Bullfrog, Pandemic, all were bought by EA.



And all of them got the axe after releasing remarkably different games.



If there were an analogy for EA, it would be the Borg from Star Trek. Exact same modus operandi, same droning voice.

[RighteousRage]

Yeah, they got a lot of heat about DRM and pushing out a bunch of cookie cutter games and now as it turns out they're actually less evil than Blizzard/Activision, which is unfortunate because B/A is more of a PC developer, which I prefer

[Trauma3x]

they gave us helmets ...joke insert laugh track

[Torhagen]

I still cant believe that Bioware was sold to EA in the first place was a sad panda then
Just look a the romance In ME1 it was revolutionary
In DA:O and ME2 it comes with lame excuses and is practically none existent. The dialogs in ME2
in are a one way track to the bed on the contrary in the ME1 they had
much more substance.

Modifié par Torhagen, 13 février 2010 - 10:54 .

[RighteousRage]

You'll notice major producers moving in on the video game market now that things like Halo 3 and MW 2 happened. The businessmen see that it is a very profitable sector, and that is why they like it - not because they enjoy video games. They come in and demolish the commons, throwing business strategies around and not really caring about the consumer, and people eat it up. You have people like Bobby Kotick bragging about how he doesn't want any of his contracted developers to enjoy making video games because then they wouldn't be paying attention to the bottom line. There's Infinity Ward, openly mocking PC users for complaining about MW 2 being downgraded, Blizzard repeatedly delaying games that should have been out like 7 years ago, 2K locking down BioShock 2 with 3 different types of DRM, and so forth. Enjoy video games while you can.



As for EA buying Bioware, I usually say "Bioware has joined Cerberus". They're given lots of resources now... But just wait until the claws dig in.

[XfStef]

as I said, it's all about the damn money and what the stupid people want... and since stupid people make up for 90% of our worlds population, it's all about making the stupid people happy

[Gorn Kregore]

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[KalReegar]

Torhagen wrote...

I still cant believe that Bioware was sold to EA in the first place was a sad panda then
just look a the romance In ME1 it was revolutionary in DA:O and ME2 it comes with lame excuses and is practically none existent. The dialogs in ME2 in are a one way track to the bed on the contrary in the ME1 they had much more substance.

EA assimilated/bought Bioware. It wasnt sold to EA.

[Gorn Kregore]

You guys overreact. EA isn't nearly as bad as Ubisoft and Activision.

Modifié par Gorn Kregore, 13 février 2010 - 10:55 .

[Kusy]

I don't have problems with EA going for the money, they are not charity, and I'm fairly sure that none of you would have a problem with that if he were on the EA paylist. My name, sadly, is not on it.



What I consider bad in EA is the policy towards players. On one hand they want them to buy the product but they don't seem to actualy care about what they say.

[Cascadus]

No. Always separate Blizzard from Activision. Activision can go burn in hell. Blizzard is still one of the greatest developers ever and I will cover my ears and go 'lalala' at the concept that Blizzard has been contaminated by Activision's poison.

And I don't get how getting bought by EA has meant BioWare has suddenly gone downhill. Dragon Age: Origins was fantastic, and ME2 has been the best experience of a game I've had in ages. The only real difference I've seen with BioWare pre-EA to post-EA is the fact I need to sit through another logo before getting to the good stuff. EA's gotten a lot better, with their focus on more original IPs and releasing some genuinely awesome games (like Dead Space and Mirror's Edge). And then it's rather disappointing to me, in that BECAUSE EA has taken this new direction, they've lost millions of dollars while Activision has risen to the top due to their 'only release sequels, innovation is for losers'.

[Tamcia]

EA - "we care about $$$ not the player".



They buy companies and franchises of games, then start making chnages because "they know better" and suck your money until a game is ruined and then abandoned it.



EA - rEApers.

[Raygereio]

XfStef wrote...

for the same reason that all good games are going down when they get bought by ea... they DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ART !!! THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

Huh, what an odd position for a company that has to pay it's employees to take.[/sarcasm]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

all the time i see people saying how bioware is going down hill becasue of EA, why i think most of mass effect 2 succes is because it got more hype thanks to ea...what has ea dobe thats so bad

The biggest problem most people have with EA is the fact that they have bought developerstudios primarily for their intellectual properties, and then produce game under the same IP but drastically changed to make it 'mainstream' (much to the displeasure of the fans).
Also, they got a lot of flak for shutting down studios after they weren't as succesfull as hoped (though actually in many cases they just merged smaller studio's into bigger ones, but who needs facts on the Internet).
Furthermore a lot of games they released were rushed (so they could be in stores for the holiday seasons) and as a result were often buggy, etc.
Lastly there was offcourse the whole DRM debable (you could only install a game 3 times and an installation was tied to your hardware). 

EA has changed. They have recognised their mistakes; they've stoped treating their customers as criminals (well, as much as a corporation can) by including just a CD check and handing out free DLC as a 'thank you for buying this game new' gift.
They've also changed the way they handle the studios they've acquired by given them more of a free reign in their game design (yes, EA did in fact not tell BioWare to include an ammosystem. Don't believe me? Look it up on the old ME forums, a Dev stated it there).
They are no longer the Evil Empire ™, but if Internetmeme's have taught us one thing, it's that we love beating that dead horse over and over again.

Modifié par Raygereio, 13 février 2010 - 11:05 .

[XfStef]

ea was always bad... each time I saw a game title bearing ea in it I knew it was overkill

that's what they do, they psychologically attack us.... with promises and great new follow ups, just so they get the money, they don't care if they ruin a saga... they buy a game after it was popular... then do a second part or a remake that s x as* and they put it on the market like it's the best thing they ever did



then idiots buy these overkills .... but what is really sad is that people never learn their lesson...

as the saying goes, tricked me once, shame on you, tricked me twice shame on me

[thegreateski]

Just google "EA is the devil"

Modifié par thegreateski, 13 février 2010 - 11:06 .

[Tasker]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

all the time i see people saying how bioware is going down hill becasue of EA, why i think most of mass effect 2 succes is because it got more hype thanks to ea...what has ea dobe thats so bad

It's pretty much because EA have a habit of buying out sucessfull developers then forcing them to change the way they do things because EA think they know better and then dropping them when their products don't make as much money as they would of done had EA just let them get on with it.

Raygereio wrote...

EA has changed. They have recognised their mistakes; they've stoped treating their customers as criminals (well, as much as a corporation can) by including just a CD check and handing out free DLC as a 'thank you for buying this game new' gift.
They've also changed the way they handle the studios they've acquired by given them more of a free reign in their game design (yes, EA did in fact not tell BioWare to include an ammosystem. Don't believe me? Look it up on the old ME forums, a Dev stated it there).
They are no longer the Evil Empire ™, but if Internetmeme's have taught us one thing, it's that we love beating that dead horse over and over again.

Try telling that to the likes of Pandemic.

Modifié par Orkboy, 13 février 2010 - 11:10 .

[KalReegar]

Tamcia wrote...

EA - "we care about $$$ not the player".

They buy companies and franchises of games, then start making chnages because "they know better" and suck your money until a game is ruined and then abandoned it.

EA - rEApers.

I don't think even the Reapers are as evil as EA.


EA has its own circle of Hell.

[XfStef]

Raygereio wrote...

XfStef wrote...

for the same reason that all good games are going down when they get bought by ea... they DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ART !!! THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

Huh, what an odd position for a company that has to pay it's employees to take.[/sarcasm]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

all the time i see people saying how bioware is going down hill becasue of EA, why i think most of mass effect 2 succes is because it got more hype thanks to ea...what has ea dobe thats so bad

The biggest problem most people have with EA is the fact that they have bought developerstudios primarily for their intellectual properties, and then produce game under the same IP but drastically changed to make it 'mainstream' (much to the displeasure of the fans).
Also, they got a lot of flak for shutting down studios after they weren't as succesfull as hoped (though actually in many cases they just merged smaller studio's into bigger ones, but who needs facts on the Internet).
Furthermore a lot of games they released were rushed (so they could be in stores for the holiday seasons) and as a result were often buggy, etc.
Lastly there was offcourse the whole DRM debable (you could only install a game 3 times and an installation was tied to your hardware). 

EA has changed. They have recognised their mistakes; they've stoped treating their customers as criminals (well, as much as a corporation can) by including just a CD check and handing out free DLC as a 'thank you for buying this game new' gift.
They've also changed the way they handle the studios they've acquired by given them more of a free reign in their game design (yes, EA did in fact not tell BioWare to include an ammosystem. Don't believe me? Look it up on the old ME forums, a Dev stated it there).
They are no longer the Evil Empire ™, but if Internetmeme's have taught us one thing, it's that we love beating that dead horse over and over again.

let's be serious... no game developer out there is starving...
it's all about the ceos and the action holders that put pressure on the devs to make the games more popular....

the game industry insn't like the music or movie one, you can't make COOL games just cause 16 yolds will play them and get hooked on you're crap.... they are wrong, they are bringing tycoon mentality to an art