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[Jose L. Uben]

the only company i can see with bioware other than EA is M-soft, i dont know which one would be a better publisher, i just want bioware to make a game where the publisher doesnt interfer in a way that could drastically change the game

[Vandrayke]

And all the idiots who complain about people being in it "for the money" need to get over their insipid notion that there exists some benevolent video game philanthroper who will spend tons of time, effort, and money on a product just because they "like video games."  

Seriously who the heck goes to work for free

[Vandrayke]

EA deserves a lot of the heat they get, because they made their bed and must lie in it... and they are losing money hand over fist right now.

Everyone should hope that their new strategy of focusing on quality titles pans out and makes them money; I don't see how a megapublisher who is making money off good games is a bad thing. They'll only make more of them in the future.

Modifié par Vandrayke, 14 février 2010 - 04:12 .

[MassEffect762]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

I don't know enough about EA to care about them either way, I have few questions myself though.

Does EA provide funding for Biowares work, say ME2?
If so how much funding?

Is it possible that funding for said work played a factor however big or small with the overall quality or quantity of ME2?

Bioware is a subsidiary of EA.  This makes them separate legal entities.

The creators/leaders of Bioware are currently executives within EA, as well as heads of Bioware.

It's likely that EA provides a great amount of funding for Bioware projects*.

*- exception being SWTOR, which is a Lucas Arts funded project.

Interesting. If you don't mind me asking and if you know, how much money went into developing ME1 compared to developing ME2 and what were the time frames/limits on developing both games.

If I weren't so lazy I'd go look at both games credits and see what changed, what other factors played a role.

[Tyfreaky]

• EA is still evil, but its not with a capital E anymore. Its more of a benign dictatorship now.
• They no longer abuse their developers.
• Riccola has actually changed the way they operate to the point where the stockholders are considering removing him.
• They haven't tried to scrub history (and their wiki) in months.

EA is trying to get less evil, but they are taking a baby steps. Its much more profitable to be complete bastards, as Activision/Blizzard will show you. So I'm going to give EA my support for right now, because I want Riccola in charge of EA until they get their ship righted.

Otherwise they might get someone like Kotick... **shudder**

Modifié par Tyfreaky, 14 février 2010 - 04:57 .

[AG zdmetal]

I thought the days of EA hate were over and Activision were the new ones to hate. With their music franchise milking and all.

[unda647]

EA has been pretty solid recently imo. Mirror's Edge was a risky concept but they still put themselves behind it and Dead Space was a great game. Even their NBA Live series has gotten considerably better in the last few years (2k all the way though). In all honesty if they are making money more power to them; even better if it is by producing high quality games.

[Torhagen]

Cascadus wrote...

No. Always separate Blizzard from Activision. Activision can go burn in hell. Blizzard is still one of the greatest developers ever and I will cover my ears and go 'lalala' at the concept that Blizzard has been contaminated by Activision's poison.

Exactly the same is true for EA acquiring Bioware

And I don't get how getting bought by EA has meant BioWare has suddenly gone downhill. Dragon Age: Origins was fantastic, and ME2 has been the best experience of a game I've had in ages. The only real difference I've seen with BioWare pre-EA to post-EA is the fact I need to sit through another logo before getting to the good stuff. EA's gotten a lot better, with their focus on more original IPs and releasing some genuinely awesome games (like Dead Space and Mirror's Edge). And then it's rather disappointing to me, in that BECAUSE EA has taken this new direction, they've lost millions of dollars while Activision has risen to the top due to their 'only release sequels, innovation is for losers'.

No. Always separate BioWare from EA . EA cares only about the $. BioWare is still one of the greatest developers ever and I will
cover my ears and go 'lalala' at the concept that BioWare has been
contaminated by EA 's poison.
Over time they will influence the quality of the Bioware Games and my fear not to the better

[Grey_Spectre]

The hate against EA primarily comes from kids who can't understand that developers and publishers are businesses - if they don't care about money they go bust and who's going to be making your precious video games then? It's a knee-jerk and juvenile reaction that any successful business must be some kind of evil empire.



Those who say EA 'corrupted' Bioware into focussing on action have a selective memory and forget Dragon Age was published by EA and had much more depth in roleplaying than some of Bioware's previous offerings like Jade Empire. ME2 is more suited to action than fiddling around with "+2 hats" and "+3 gloves" and streamlining the RPG elements seems more like a developer than publisher decision.



I don't care much for most of EA's sport games but don't forget they both developed and published Dead Space which was one of the most interesting games of 2008. Nothing about that game hinted at "screw the art, it's all about the cash."

[AsheraII]

There has been a pretty long time that EA was indeed all about the money. People nowadays complain about how DLC is supposedly ripped out from the original game (Zaeed / Normandy Crashsite DLC for ME2, Shale DLC for DA:O). Well, let me tell you: these games actually has a "complete" feel without those DLC's, which makes me believe they were indeed developed seperately as Bioware claims.



Try playing *any* of the games from the C&C / RA series without their expansions, except C&C1 and Dune:Emperor, and you'll *know* how it feels to play a game that has part cut out from it. Selling unfinished games to later milk out the title with must-have expansions used to be EA's corporation strategy. But gladly, they're slowly moving away from it. They're still interrested in the idea of developing modular games where people can add expansions or DLC's (which are actually micro-expansions). But selling unfinished games bit them in their behind pretty hard, so they've defenitly moved the ballance and their focal points.



And I must say, All the late EA games show more love for the art of making computer games than Activision has lately. All the expansions to games like WoW, all the additions available to the music games, are nothing but warming up the same old thing they've already developed, adding new textures over an old model to cut costs, developing 1 new item model and then using it over and over and over again. And the masses gladly pay 10-15 bucks a month for this skulduggery. So yes, I must say Activision has definitely taken the lead in the industry regarding total lack of respect for their customer base and milking out the masses.

While EA is definitely moving back towards the creation of quality and respect for their customers.

[KalDurenik]

They have improved the last few years... But tbh they still have a long way to go before i trust them...

[pillz here]

I don't hate ea.

[Sidac]

They have improved a tiny tiny bit. They stil:



- Buy up the competition so they dont have to do **** for themselves

- Close down studios that under perform to their expectations

- Force studios to rush games and pump out crap

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

b/c they touch themselves at night.

[Elvhen Veluthil]

Faust1979 wrote...

In the words of Danny Elfman former lead singer of Oingo Boingo

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don't try to make me feel guilty
I'm so tired of hearing you cry

There's nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask me I'll say it's just fine
There's nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
I'm so tired of hearing you whine

This must be the most stupid song ever, I mean EVER!!! If the goal for the companies is to make as much money as they can, then the gamers should do the same:

There's nothing wrong with Pirating
There's nothing wrong with free sharing
Don't try to make me feel guilty
I'm so tired of hearing you cry

There's nothing wrong with saving some profit
If you ask me I'll say it's just fine
There's nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
I'm so tired of hearing you whine