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Oooh fancy wedding. With cake, sten will most likely be there. :D

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I must say that considering how easy it was to port in extra content and romances etc. from Baldur's Gate 1 to it's expansion and then to Baldur's Gate 2 and to it's expansion, Bioware have really dropped the balled on this one!

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I'm not exactly sure what people want from the expansion to be honest? I just want a new world to explore, new characters, new romances and expanding the overall story. Guess I'll be one of the few thats happy at this rate...psssh.



The only thing I really want is Sten. Psssh

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I'm curious - from an external perspective - as to why they're dropping the romances. It seems to me those have gotten a lot of press, from the Zevran guy-one, to the others. Alastair's is insanely popular. It's funny they'd drop it. I understand that it would be hard to carry over, etc, but since it's obviously a big attraction, why set it aside? (keeping in mind, I prefer it this way, rather than the 'all-new-romances!' angle) But it seems like a strange decision.

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In most of these instances, its probably best to have a new character...

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Lack of time and money apparently, if you read David's post in FAQ it doesnt rule out continuing the romance at a later date (Direct sequel or another expansion.). Im curious how Alistair and Anora will be depicted in Awakenings.

Modifié par SinYang, 15 février 2010 - 10:46 .


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I wonder if you can play new races or classes...

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I have mixed feeling about this...

I really don't know exactly what they mean when they say the romances won't continue. Does this mean that Alistair will ignore the fact that we were deeply in love when he sends me off to rebuild the Wardens? Or that he just won't be able to come along with me on the mission? I'm fine with the latter, but the former would annoy me.

I'm fine with the old allies not coming along, as it can be explained away... They are off doing other important things.

The equipment thing bothers me. Why is core campaign equipment being carried over, but not DLC stuff? If my character is wearing the Warden armor and wielding Duncan's sword and Cailan's shield, will she start Awakening naked? Will the game explain why she threw away such important items? I know that it will be rendered obsolete over the course of Awakening, but it annoys me.

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spottyblanket wrote...

I'm not exactly sure what people want from the expansion to be honest? I just want a new world to explore, new characters, new romances and expanding the overall story. Guess I'll be one of the few thats happy at this rate...psssh.

The only thing I really want is Sten. Psssh


No new romances.

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What you mean you can't romance the new party mebers? :(

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spottyblanket wrote...

What you mean you can't romance the new party mebers? :(


She means : NO romances in Awakening, neither old one or new one. Because "There is no time for it". And it seems that i won't see Leliana anymore, for whom my char' made 60% of her choices, like making Alistair going with Morrigan...

(Seems you finally won't be one of the happy players :)

Modifié par AudoucetG, 15 février 2010 - 02:37 .


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AudoucetG wrote...

spottyblanket wrote...

What you mean you can't romance the new party mebers? :(


She means : NO romances in Awakening, neither old one or new one. Because "There is no time for it". And it seems that i won't see Leliana anymore, for whom my char' made 60% of her choices, like making Alistair going with Morrigan...

(Seems you finally won't be one of the happy players :)


The 'there's no time for it' never seemed to be an impediment to romancing in previous games where we had save the country/world/galaxy etc or ourselves from a curse (this was admittedly in MotB from Obsidian not Bioware, but still an expansion similar to Awakening had two full romances in it, and where you were running against the clock to save yourself from a curse).  Yes I hope the reason is given a better justification for no continuing romances or new ones that just that.

Modifié par Curlain, 15 février 2010 - 02:52 .


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Bratt1204 wrote...

Champion1 wrote...

The lack of romances makes me need to believe they will be completed in a later expansion (if indeed DA2 isn't a direct sequel).


By the time DA2 gets released we will no longer remember or care about romances that happened 2 years ago. Seriously, my PCs marriage to Alistair is now no longer being recognized in the Awakening expansion set only about 6 months after Origins. Which Einstein over at Bioware came up with that awesome storyline continuation? :blink:


This!

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partench wrote...

I am disappointed, I have to admit. It is almost like they didn't even look at what aspects the players all enjoyed. From a technical RPG monsters, treasures, and leveling perspective, this game was solid. BUT, and this is a BIG but....the thing that really worked for this game was the story, the characters, the relationships you built with them, the TIME you put in to build those relationships, and so forth. To have many of them completely disappear is really shocking. I do NOT want this feeling like the played out Final Fantasy games where pretty much every character changes.

I like my own character, but I do like the aspects of the DLC items too! What did we pay for that DLC for? Just to take a quick look at it and never be able to use it again?

Having new characters in the story is important, but to eliminate many of the ones we knew really blows.
I can only hope that there are going to be many sequels and that some of the original characters are going to have chances to return at points. Otherwise, we're just playing the same old game....kill, treasure, level....not building relationships that can carry through many adventures.

I hope the game devs can read this.


The developers  obviously believe that we should consider ourselves lucky to have the privilege to purchase and play games that they see fit to develop; It is blatant egocentrism. There have been countless complaints from players about the concept of the relationships and DLC content not being available in this expansion. I have read many posts stating that these relationships would indeed continue again in a sequel (DA2) but are temporarily 'on hold' in Awakening. If they could not carry over (at least a few) these romances in an early expansion, It is highly unlikely you will see them flourish again in a sequel being released possibly 2 years from now. Based on the smug responses from Bioware, it seems they are indifferent to what their market truly wants. It seems because DAO was so successful, they now believe they have a captive audience; gamers will now buy ANYTHING released related to the DA title. The only way you can get your point across is by NOT purchasing a game that does not meet your expectations and send emails directly to Bioware voicing your disappointment. Remember we are the consumer, we choose to purchase or not.

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well theres going to be alot of dissapointed people out there with the no dlc and no romance options me included. I'm hardly suprised tho it's always the same they hype up the game make a big deal about how your choices have a big impact then wham take it all away like a kick to the guts your left thinking what the heck

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No romances.. lol. It seems like the warden don juan retired. I mean, in one dao playthrough you can romance 3 party members, you can have encounters with isabela, one elf in dalish camp, the desire demon if mage, you can get bella to kiss you, you get an extra encounter if you are human noble or dwarf and i dont even have to mention the brothel. No romance encounters just feels out of place.



As for the dlc items, well, I'm pretty sure that they won't last more than 2 levels in expansion anyway, and that's because dragon age has a lot of gear/armor sets to choose (at least for warrior). I just hope that this time there will be more gear or armor sets for rogue and mage as well.

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I'd be very upset about the DLC if I wasn't planning on getting my mitts on some new equipment in the new DLC but it is annoying that I won't have the choice of using the existing DLC. That is what the whole point of DAO was wasn't it? choices... Anyway I'll reserve judgement on the romances until I see the reasons they come up with. If the story is good I probably won't care.

Now do I want to use my level 21 warden back from the dead or start at level 1, hmmm, I think there shall be a bit of magic hand waiving, at least for the first play through.

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I don't mind no romances, as long as they don't treat us like idiots and say "you are too busy for that". That's just idiotic.

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The DLC I don't mind so much. I mean, you'll probably find better stuff about half an hour into the main stroy anyway; and for me the romances weren't just a "side entertainment", they were mostly well thought out and could actually impact a later choice (Alistair, IIRC). So it's a little disappointing to see those obliterated. As for the "no time for that", wasn't the Ferelden blight supposed to be the main goal with a little bit of romance in there as well. I highly doubt the "no time for it" will hold up in the end.

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No romances with the new party members? Why thats just silly!

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Squeelookle wrote...

The DLC I don't mind so much. I mean, you'll probably find better stuff about half an hour into the main stroy anyway;


It has nothing to do with finding better stuff in the main story.  You paid for the DLC, you should have the option whether you wish to use those items or not.  If I could purchase Awakening without the need of having Origins installed, then it would make more sense than it does now.  Its now a $40 investment that wipes out a $27 investment(for those that bought DLC) made upon the game. 

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It has nothing to do with finding better stuff in the main story. You paid for the DLC, you should have the option whether you wish to use those items or not. If I could purchase Awakening without the need of having Origins installed, then it would make more sense than it does now. Its now a $40 investment that wipes out a $27 investment(for those that bought DLC) made upon the game.




How does it wipe out the "investment"? You used and will continue to have the opportunity to use the items whenever you play Origins. Installing Awakening does not delete your DLC, it does not wash away the products you purchased, which was added content purchased for Origins.

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i've been excited about this expansion but with no romance option and only oghren as a companion no dlc and my hair mod probably wont work which means starting again with horrid hair styles erghhhhhhh i'm not looking forward to awakening so much unfortunatly i pre ordered it so may as well play it see if it is at least bearable

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TheMadCat wrote...

It has nothing to do with finding better stuff in the main story. You paid for the DLC, you should have the option whether you wish to use those items or not. If I could purchase Awakening without the need of having Origins installed, then it would make more sense than it does now. Its now a $40 investment that wipes out a $27 investment(for those that bought DLC) made upon the game.


How does it wipe out the "investment"? You used and will continue to have the opportunity to use the items whenever you play Origins. Installing Awakening does not delete your DLC, it does not wash away the products you purchased, which was added content purchased for Origins.

Alot of us feel lied to, up until the FAQ we were told everything in our inventoiry would transfer over.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I don't mind no romances, as long as they don't treat us like idiots and say "you are too busy for that". That's just idiotic.


Agreed.  Because like what was said earlier, we were "trying to save the country", yet had time to get your freak on with almost a dozen people.  Seems a little out of place to not find time to do your thang.  Obviously it can be explained if you were in a relationship with Lelianna, or Morrigan why it doesn't carry over, but if you're a female and in a relationship with Alistair, or a male with Anora, if all of a sudden it's "do I know you, don't touch me there", I'm certainly going to be a little peeved.