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[Splinter Cell 108]

No and the chance to add something like coop already passed. Usually developers add coop and multiplayer to franchises that don't have it on their sequels. It didn't happen in ME2 and unless BioWare is willing to take a huge risk with it I doubt it will happen. If they do it in ME3, there is no guarantee that there will be another game and if it fails there is no chance to fix it because there won't be another game. Besides if it fails it costs money and in gaming one failure is enough to put a franchise in trouble. Look at Splinter Cell, after Double Agent things went bad and now it's depending on Conviction. If that game were to fail then the franchise is pretty much dead.

[OneBadAssMother]

I do not agree with the ME trilogy being multiplayer, it is a singleplayer game. However, a spin off in the future -> would be great. Both me and my wife are fans of Bioware, it would be nice to play a Bioware game co-op for a change one day.

[Mimaiselphenai]

Mass Effect Romances: Online

[Reptilian Rob]

Multiplayer is going to be the death of story driven games.



Mark my words.

[ObserverStatus]

They could make it like Resident Evil 5, with additional players being able to join in as one of Shepard's squadmates at any time. The second player would not be able to participate in the conversation portions of the game, but they would be able to discuss the options with the first.
Like in Super Mario Galaxy, the game would still revolve around the first player, without the second detracting from the quality.

Modifié par bobobo878, 19 mars 2010 - 04:15 .

[Mimaiselphenai]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Multiplayer is going to be the death of story driven games.

Mark my words.

It already is. When multiplayer replayability is taken over plot, especially when it's competitive. Multiplayer doesn't HAVE to ruin story driven games depending on how it's handled.

[Reptilian Rob]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Multiplayer is going to be the death of story driven games.

Mark my words.

It already is. When multiplayer replayability is taken over plot, especially when it's competitive. Multiplayer doesn't HAVE to ruin story driven games depending on how it's handled.

I really wish an asteroid would just smash into the MLG headquarters and wipe them all out of the gene pool.

Wouldn't that be awesome?

[NitrAce]

I really hope it doesn't happen. Bioware is the one game dev that hasn't disappointed me with their games and I would like to see it continue. I really don't want single player botched by any of my friends no matter how good friends we are. I want to play the game by myself because that's how I started out playing games. There's multiplayer games like CoD and Halo and what not for this type of thing. But Mass Effect is NOT meant to be played in Co-op. Just no.

[Andaius20]

I hope they have fun sitting in the ship, while I deplete the Nth planet of resources, and then talk to everybody over and over again!

[Mimaiselphenai]

NitrAce wrote...

I really hope it doesn't happen. Bioware is the one game dev that hasn't disappointed me with their games and I would like to see it continue. I really don't want single player botched by any of my friends no matter how good friends we are. I want to play the game by myself because that's how I started out playing games. There's multiplayer games like CoD and Halo and what not for this type of thing. But Mass Effect is NOT meant to be played in Co-op. Just no.

Why do so many people take this route and assume everyone who's for it wants it to be an integral part of the actual game? It isn't outside the realm of reality for a game to be a solid single player experience with co-op multiple as a side. It's been done before, and if you love what Bioware does so much, have a little more faith that they can do it too. Not that I'm pushing for multiplayer or anything. I just think it'd make a great co-op game once you've enjoyed the story by yourself.

[zman2100]

Save coop for whatever comes after ME3. Bioware has said that there will be Mass Effect games after the conclusion to Shepard's trilogy so wait for those to try coop.

[GothamLord]

zman2100 wrote...

Save coop for whatever comes after ME3. Bioware has said that there will be Mass Effect games after the conclusion to Shepard's trilogy so wait for those to try coop.

^ This

Modifié par GothamLord, 19 mars 2010 - 04:42 .

[Weiser_Cain]

I knew I would regret EA buying bioware...

[OneBadAssMother]

You do know Baldurs Gate 2 had multiplayer yes? -.-



Its a full story based game, and it was great.

[Mimaiselphenai]

zman2100 wrote...

Save coop for whatever comes after ME3. Bioware has said that there will be Mass Effect games after the conclusion to Shepard's trilogy so wait for those to try coop.

Fair enough.

[GothamLord]

OneBadAssMother wrote...

You do know Baldurs Gate 2 had multiplayer yes? -.-

Its a full story based game, and it was great.

Baldurs Gate is also based and uses D&D as a foundation.  A RPG thats whole purpose is centered around group play. It is also not a shooter type of multiplayer which is likely was Mass Effect would de-evolve into if it became co-op.  

[in a bit of a pickle]

*dons devil's advocate's pimp hat*



What if co-op only engaged at the squad selection screen immediately before any missions? That is, Player 1 is playing as Shepard (hosting, so to speak) and Player 2 is a guest able to select whatever squaddie P1 has recruited.



They land the roach and shootshootshootie fun begins. Whenever there's a dialogue P2 can interact in a similar way to that planned for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Or, if you dont want P2 derailing your decisions then maybe just a bit of banter? (P2 as Grunt could get the option to growl and threaten an NPC without it affecting P1 Para/Ren score)



IF, and this is a monumental IF, this didn't affect the story telling (I honestly cant see how it could, provided it is handled carefully. And I trust Bioware in that regard) then I'm not sure if it'd be that bad.



Now that I think about it, reactions from P2 in my game as I shoot or talk to NPCs could add a lot of variety to the game. Now, I wouldn't go and invite random strangers to my game, of course. That woul be to invite disaster, same as with any other online mode.



*takes off da's hat*

[Weiser_Cain]

^And when romance options come up?

[in a bit of a pickle]

^ Not have romance options in the middle of combat missions? Even if romance options are available during combat missions then grey-out romanceables squaddies in Player 2's menu?



*still advocating for the big hornied guy. Wonder how to bill him?*

[NitrAce]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

I really hope it doesn't happen. Bioware is the one game dev that hasn't disappointed me with their games and I would like to see it continue. I really don't want single player botched by any of my friends no matter how good friends we are. I want to play the game by myself because that's how I started out playing games. There's multiplayer games like CoD and Halo and what not for this type of thing. But Mass Effect is NOT meant to be played in Co-op. Just no.

Why do so many people take this route and assume everyone who's for it wants it to be an integral part of the actual game? It isn't outside the realm of reality for a game to be a solid single player experience with co-op multiple as a side. It's been done before, and if you love what Bioware does so much, have a little more faith that they can do it too. Not that I'm pushing for multiplayer or anything. I just think it'd make a great co-op game once you've enjoyed the story by yourself.

Difference of opinion. I just shared mine and won't patronize anyone for sharing theirs. If you want it it's your choice. Personally I just wouldn't use the feature even if it was made available. I've played Multiplayer games, they're fun to an extent, but what has always appealed to me has been SINGLE player and Mass Effect pulls it off very well, so I just hope it stays that way. Plus in my honest opinion not every game out there needs multiplayer but everyone is hopping on that train before it leaves. Case in point Bioshock 2, did it really need multiplayer? So I just choose not to use it. I'll just do the same with ME. Assuming it does integrate a multiplayer co-op system.

And yeah it is possible to make a single player game with a co-op option to it, but it's very hard to do it right. Fable is one of the FEW games I can recollect that uses the system well enough to an extent. But even that has it's issues. But still I honestly don't speculate it working well enough with Mass Effect. As for the first point I'd assume the only reason anyone is asking serious consideration into a co-op mode for the game is because they want it to be an integral part of gameplay which might seem a little lackluster in it's current state due to the absence of co-op.

[Kalfear]

Frotality wrote...

Vash3283 wrote...

I'm well aware and support it being Single player forever, but if EA is making them go online, I would at least like to discuss the potential things Bioware could do to incorporate it without hurting the "main game".

Please dont insult my threads discussion if you are not going to fully read it.

what you are propsoing is an addition to the game only after if its been horribly mutilated by EA then? cause if they force ME into online multiplayer, i guarantee much of the fanbase wont care about coop or anything else they do to ruin the game, cause they'll no longer care for the series.

Heck, I think much of the fan base already leaving the franchise cause of Mass Effect 2 changes.

Christina Norman likes to take credit for the increased sales over ME1 but what she doesnt understand in her arrogence is most of those sales were cause of word of mouth by players that LOVED ME1.

Ive yet to meet someone that LOVED ME1 say they LOVED ME2.

But your right, if Bioware or EA made Mass Effect 3 co-op shooter online, I predict 1.5million + that bought ME2 would walk away and not buy ME3.

For some strange reason Bioware just doesnt want to admit their main sales comes from RPGs, not shooters and RPGers is what they should be focusing on.

Anyways, after reading Christina Normans hugely insulting power point presentation, Ive taken ME3 off my shopping list unless someone in the know comes out and say point blank this this and this regarding RPG elements has been fixed from ME2 version.

ME2 just wasnt fun as it should have been cause it just literally failed to live up to its original who set the bar so very high.

Best announcement I could hear is ME1 developers rehired or resigned to make up ME3 development team. Speaking for myself, I have no faith in the ME2 development team who lied to us and strung us along to get those extra sale numbers.

[mmmu]

Kalfear wrote...
Ive yet to meet someone that LOVED ME1 say they LOVED ME2.

I absolutely LOVED ME1 but I LOVED ME2 even more.

[Vash3283]

This was a what if discussion, if an online element was required, Not a flame thread for all those thinking COOP would ruin everything forever and ever.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Co-op for ME3 is a bad plan, because it takes away development resources from the single player game.



However, I can imagine a stand alone ME Co-op game which is developed from the ground up to feature that. But I am afraid that if you mix the two in one game then one of the two or probably both have to suffer. Also, BioWare has no expertise in that area. So, the first one will be a trial on error experience or the company has to outsource the project. The good doctors seem to have good contacts with DICE. Maybe they can dream up something cool together for the ME universe.

[logiccosmic]

No, this was you proposing an idea, which appears to have only a few supporters, and people are telling you that.

And you call that flaming.

Personally, I think any focus on multiplayer comes at the expense of singleplayer. Look at Halo, CoD, Bad Company, etc. Their singleplayer is lackluster.

If you want to play with your friends, go play those. Don't invite EA to Firefly our Mass Effect.

Modifié par logiccosmic, 26 mars 2010 - 12:44 .