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[AdamNW]

This list is used to determine who are the best squad mates in the game.  It's a general tier list, so it doesn't assume any specific class for Shepard.  Not every character has an explanation for why they are in a specific tier, as this was made pretty quickly.

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Legion, Samara/Morinth
A-Tier: Thane, Mordin, Garrus, Tali
B-Tier: Jack, Jacob, Zaeed

Miranda - Overload and Warp are some of the better skills in the game, Slam makes enemies stupid easy to kill, and she increases squad damage.
Grunt - Regenerates Health, but Fortification means he will almost never lose shields anyway.  Uses the Claymore shotgun as well.
Legion - Uses the Widow SR, Combat Drone is really useful in a large group of enemies, and is really hard to kill due to Geth Shield Boost
Samara - Has the best combination of biotic skills.  AR's also make her quite lethal

Opinions anyone?

[Beeno4Life]

S Tier- Miranda, Thane

A+ Tier- Samara, Grunt, Garrus, Legion

A Tier- Jack, Mordin

B Tier- Jacob, Zaeed, Tali



Thane's powers are amazing in unison, especially with his loyalty and use of sniper rifles.

Miranda has warp, which is one of the best powers in the game, and ups squad health/damage.



Tali is very situational, and her only useful power is combat drone. Even then, I'd rather have a better power.

Jacob has one of the worst power combos, IMO. Sure Incendiary ammo is OK, but I'd rather have Armor-Piercing or even Anti-Personel rounds.

[Atmosfear3]

S - Miranda

A+ - Samara, Grunt, Garrus, Legion, Thane

A - Mordin, Tali

B Jacob, Zaeed, Jack



Other than their loyalty missions, I don't think I've ever taken Jacob, Zaeed, or Jack anywhere. This is assuming insanity/veteran mode only. On normal or lower you can take just about anybody you want.

[D Amiri]

Not only does Miranda get s-tier abilities (warp/overload) and great passives. She gets 31 squad points so you max 3 of her skills. Also her loyalty skill is unneeded so you don't have to gimp her build until after her loyalty mission like Samara, Grunt, Tali, Legion, or Jack.

[Tok153]

S Grunt, Miranda, Legion

A+ Mordin, Samara

A- Tali, Garrus, Thane, Jacob, Jack

B Zaeed



Grunt takes massive punishment, Miranda has Skills for Armor/Shield/Biotic, Legion has Combat Drone (In some cases Explosive) Taking attention off of Shepard. (Harbenger loves this lil guy.) The others have decent abilities but nothing that screams survivability.

[Feops1]

AdamNW wrote...

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Legion, Samara/Morinth
A-Tier: Thane, Mordin, Garrus, Tali
B-Tier: Jack, Jacob, Zaeed

I'd put it more like

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Garrus, Thane,
A-Tier: Zaeed, Legion, Samara
B-Tier: Jack,  Tali, Jacob, Mordin

This is based on an insanity run. 

Mirdana is just gold all around, able to strip all defenses + squad bonuses.

Garrus is great versus synthetics and Thane versus organics, but only average if vice-versa. Grunt is overall solid if a tad reckless... could even survive on insanity for a while.

Zaeed has very nice damage output but is quite a bit less resilient than Grunt. Samara has reave I guess, which is generally good. Legion had a really nice weapon.

Tali, Mordin, and Jack's abilities were all situational and they were fragile. Tali and Mordin are the more specialized versions of Garrus and Thane but with less general damage and defense stripping. Overall, not nearly as useful. Jack would be super good if her abilities worked on things without armor, but they don't, so she's rather meh. Jacob actually isn't all that bad but just outclassed. His power set feels odd.

Modifié par Feops1, 14 février 2010 - 06:15 .

[Alexandus]

AdamNW wrote...

This list is used to determine who are the best squad mates in the game.  It's a general tier list, so it doesn't assume any specific class for Shepard.  Not every character has an explanation for why they are in a specific tier, as this was made pretty quickly.

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Legion, Samara/Morinth
A-Tier: Thane, Mordin, Garrus, Tali
B-Tier: Jack, Jacob, Zaeed

Miranda - Overload and Warp are some of the better skills in the game, Slam makes enemies stupid easy to kill, and she increases squad damage.
Grunt - Regenerates Health, but Fortification means he will almost never lose shields anyway.  Uses the Claymore shotgun as well.
Legion - Uses the Widow SR, Combat Drone is really useful in a large group of enemies, and is really hard to kill due to Geth Shield Boost
Samara - Has the best combination of biotic skills.  AR's also make her quite lethal

Opinions anyone?

Miranda is definitely very Win. I modded her and Mordin assault rifles.

[AdamNW]

Tali has shotguns and a combat drone. That should mean something.

[Paeyvn]

S-Tier: Legion

A+ Tier: Tali/Grunt/Garrus

A Tier: Miranda(only because for some reason her AI seems more stupid than others)/Thane/Samara

B Tier: Jacob/Jack/Mordin/Zaeed

[Trefecka]

I'm surprised how everyone hates Zaeed so much. I find he's awesome as an early game anti-synthetic/shield with squad disruptor + assault rifle/sniper. Zaeed + garrus pretty much makes the recruit Jack/Tali missions a cakewalk. While yes, he does serve a very specialized role his effectiveness at it + early availability should earn him an A-tier.



I would say how good Jack is depends on your class. Squad warp ammo allows you to select a non-ammo bonus power, and pull works well with adepts for their biotic combos (pull + warp for AOE, pull + throw for virtual insta-kill).



Jacob...I have yet to find a good use for him aside from squad-incendiary at the start. Again, pull has the synergy with adept powers, but even as an adept I usually prefer a more specialized squadmate/one with better defense-stripping capabilities.

[Kwonnern]

These are at the top for for me



Miranda(Overload, Warp + TeamBoost)

Grunt (Fortif and Regen)

Legion (Widow and Geth Shield)

Garrus (Sniper or AR + Overload)

Samara (Good Biotic-Combos)

Zaeed (Sniper or AR + AE Inferno Grenade)

[SirEmilCrane]

If you know you're going up against synthetics legion+Tali is just unfair

[sinosleep]

I don't see why Grunt rates so high. Yeah, he lasts a long time, but I just don't think concussive shot is a very good ability. Believe it or not I'd actually rather have Jacob than Grunt more often than not. He provides the same squad incendiary ammo that Grunt does (main reason to take either one of them) but with pull he can provide warp explosion combos for Miranda (who is by far the best companion in the game so she comes EVERYWHERE) as well that are a lot better the concussive shot will ever be. I also think Mordin is getting underrated considering incineration blast can one shot armor off of groups of clustered enemies and really, defense stripping is where squad mates come in most handy for me any way. 

S-Tier: Miranda and it's not close for me. Warp and overload are 2 of the best abilites in the game, and she has easily the most beneficial squad passive in cerberus leader. 

A Tier:  Samara you get her mid-game but can then unlock reave pretty soon after getting her, and area reave is spectacular. Plus she uses assault riles.  Thane warp is always nice since he can set off biotic explosions while Miranda is on cool down, has access to smgs and sniper rifles. 

B Tier: Mordin, you get him early, and incineration blast will one shot (or come damned close) armor on regular basis on insanity. He fills Samara's role until you unlock reave. Grunt, best ability is his ammo cause I just don't think concussive shot is very good, has access to assault rifles. Jacob doesn't last as long as Grunt, has same ammo, pull+warp is a lot better than concussive shot. Garrus, overload is nice, but since Miranda also has it and can't be chained with other abilities like warp can it's redundant and unnecessary. Tali combat drone is a great distraction, energy drain for anti defense (though like overload Miranda has it covered), and ai hacking is great when there are synthetics around (which honestly isn't all that often though) but reliance on shotguns with no combo power to go make up for it drops her a bit.

C Jack no anti-defense abilities, shockwave is quite situational (cliffs only basically), squad warp ammo is nice though. Legion he's useful, but you get him WAY too late to matter. Zaeed, like Jack no straight anti-defense, even if squad disrupter ammo can be nice. 

I really, really, wish Jack was better, since I'll be romancing her on my engineer playthrough and I hate not bringing along love interests on missions. She just doesn't have a place on any team I can think of though. 

Modifié par sinosleep, 14 février 2010 - 12:19 .

[Awesome Helmet]

miranda has to be number 1. which we all seem to be in agreement.



those that follow are all good based on what your Shepard has and what style of gameplay you play. the only benefits some characters have over others would be legion and his better sniper rifle, grunt and his better shotgun, and even mordins omnitool upgrade or jacks biotic upgrade are all powerfull additions to some of your squadmates. personally i think any squadmate with a sniper rifle is better then any character without. so i usually take miranda and thane/garrus. id take legion, but i havent played with him much since you get him at end game.

[mundus66]

Top-Tier: Miranda seriously warp + overload is the main reason why sentinel is considered the best class imo and she also gives 15% damage bonus.

High-Tier: Morinth and Legion, they have 2 of the best useables and have nice damage output (Legion has sick with his sniper). Samara is also awesome on hardcore and lower, but i think on insanity reave isn't that good anymore, just a worse version of warp.

Mid-High-Tier: long list. Mordin, Tali, Garrus, Thane and Zaeed. Most of these are excellent in certain situations worse in others. Mordin, excellent vs Blood Pack mobs, i always bring him when i fight heavily armored foes unless i got Samara instead. But on Insanity i find Mordin better. Tali is a worse version of Legion, she has slightly better useables (energy drain) but she dies more often and doesn't have sick damage output. Garrus and Thane are both good snipers, but i think they die to often (especially Garrus). But they have quite useful talents and are overall pretty good, i prefer Legion though. Zaeed is also a excellent sniper and i always bring him vs synthetics unless i have Legion.

Mid-Low-Tier. Grunt and Jacob, if you do not have a ammo powers for Shepard they could be considered mid and i usually roll with Jacob until i get Grunt. If you do got ammo powers on Shepard though, i would say these become low (at least Jacob). Grunt is good at staying alive, so you might consider using him if you have a problem keeping your squad alive.

Low, Jack, she has nothing good other than warp ammo which is her loyalty ability, so by the time you get it you usually have someone better. Pull isn't bad either, but there are plenty of squad members that are better at staying alive and also has pull.

[glasgoo21]

Beeno4Life wrote...

S Tier- Miranda, Thane
A+ Tier- Samara, Grunt, Garrus, Legion
A Tier- Jack, Mordin
B Tier- Jacob, Zaeed, Tali

Thane's powers are amazing in unison, especially with his loyalty and use of sniper rifles.
Miranda has warp, which is one of the best powers in the game, and ups squad health/damage.

Tali is very situational, and her only useful power is combat drone. Even then, I'd rather have a better power.
Jacob has one of the worst power combos, IMO. Sure Incendiary ammo is OK, but I'd rather have Armor-Piercing or even Anti-Personel rounds.

To be fair, she was always the longest standing team member? maybe luck, but still in ME1 see seemed less good

[Urazz]

Feops1 wrote...

AdamNW wrote...

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Legion, Samara/Morinth
A-Tier: Thane, Mordin, Garrus, Tali
B-Tier: Jack, Jacob, Zaeed

I'd put it more like

S-Tier: Miranda
A+-Tier: Grunt, Garrus, Thane,
A-Tier: Zaeed, Legion, Samara
B-Tier: Jack,  Tali, Jacob, Mordin

This is based on an insanity run. 

Mirdana is just gold all around, able to strip all defenses + squad bonuses.

Garrus is great versus synthetics and Thane versus organics, but only average if vice-versa. Grunt is overall solid if a tad reckless... could even survive on insanity for a while.

Zaeed has very nice damage output but is quite a bit less resilient than Grunt. Samara has reave I guess, which is generally good. Legion had a really nice weapon.

Tali, Mordin, and Jack's abilities were all situational and they were fragile. Tali and Mordin are the more specialized versions of Garrus and Thane but with less general damage and defense stripping. Overall, not nearly as useful. Jack would be super good if her abilities worked on things without armor, but they don't, so she's rather meh. Jacob actually isn't all that bad but just outclassed. His power set feels odd.

I'd put Thane a bit below Garrus otherwise I agree with everything else.

Garrus also ends up a bit better when he gets AP ammo and Concussive shot is quite useful in taking down barriers.  This makes him more rounded out for taking on even the Collectors.  Thane just has his shredder ammo which is pretty much useless in my opinion.

[mundus66]

Urazz wrote...

I'd put Thane a bit below Garrus otherwise I agree with everything else.

Garrus also ends up a bit better when he gets AP ammo and Concussive shot is quite useful in taking down barriers.  This makes him more rounded out for taking on even the Collectors.  Thane just has his shredder ammo which is pretty much useless in my opinion.

Warp is better than concusive shot, but yeah i agree i prefer Garrus over Thane. But if you use squad ammo Thane has better damage output than Garrus. I never use Thane after he is loyal though, for obvious reasons. Hopefully Bioware will fix this. You should be able to turn of squad usage completely.

[Kajan451]

A class: Tali, Legion & Samara

B class: Garrus, Jack & Grunt

C class: Miranda, Zaeed, Thane

D class: Jacob, Mordin



Reason:

Tali + Legion do have Combat Drone which is useful for getting enemies to change Targets and make them jump from cover. Samara coming with Reave and Assault Rifles makes her my favorit biotic user... just wish she had Singularity instead of Throw.



Garrus with AP Ammunition makes him my favorit to tag along when facing a lot of armored foes. Combination of AR and Sniper makes him useful. His other skills are to situational for him to make A Tier, even though i like concussive shot now and then. Jack is pretty useful to make enemies step from cover and has Warp Ammo, which is quite nice vs Collectors and their barriers. Vs Husks she is cleaning house. Grunt with Inferno Ammo and his Charge ability makes him useful vs Bloodpack and Husks.



Miranda, she isn't cut out to be any good material. Her abilities seem pretty good at first sight, and everyone talks about the Teambonus of 15% she gives. Well Thane and Zaeed both get +50% weapon damage. Taking the two of them does provide Warp and Zaeed gets Disruptor ammo for shields. Both can use sniperrifles making them much more useful if you need "Mirandas" Abilities. Miranda lacks in weapons. Only Heavy Pistol and SMG... that doesn't cut it. I don't want to stand her in first row to hit something or have her slow firing with her HP. Thane and Zaeed both seem to me only useful to dish out damage. But i consider Garrus the better Sniper, even though he only gets +35% damage... but he gets a +70% from his Tungsten Ammo.. making him more useful as Thane in my eyes. Zaeed... i don't know... i suppose he isn't bad against Husks and Geth. But why would i pick him over Grunt for Husks.. or him over Legion or Tali für Geth? The little damage bonus doesn't measure up to the abilities others provide.



Jacob... his wasted point in Inferno Ammo makes him useless to be carried along with Squad ammo types, because he will override them by default. His abilities just don't stun me. And his Weapon load... it just doesn't cut it. No matter what he does... there is someone better suited for the job. If i need some front line shotgun user.. i am picking Jack or Grunt.



Mordin... well... mordin. I found him only useful in situations you need him to crowd control. If he would have better weapons i would consider him more often. He would certainly be higher tier if we could take 3 people along, but since there are only two.. he gets left in his lab next to Jacob.

[mundus66]

Kajan451 wrote...

Miranda, she isn't cut out to be any good material. Her abilities seem pretty good at first sight, and everyone talks about the Teambonus of 15% she gives. Well Thane and Zaeed both get +50% weapon damage. Taking the two of them does provide Warp and Zaeed gets Disruptor ammo for shields. Both can use sniperrifles making them much more useful if you need "Mirandas" Abilities. Miranda lacks in weapons. Only Heavy Pistol and SMG... that doesn't cut it. I don't want to stand her in first row to hit something or have her slow firing with her HP.

You do know that the main reason people like Miranda is Warp + Overload right? And she boosts YOUR damage with should always be like 80% of overall squad damage, unless your doing something wrong (i pulled that number out my ass but you get the point).

[Kajan451]

And as i said, mundus66, there are better Chars for Warp+Overload combinations.



And about a the 15% damage bonus to your own damage... unless i am playing Infiltrator i don't need that at all. With all other characters i simply take someone with better weapons as Miranda and her toothpick guns... and dish out more damage as the meager 15% bonus she provides.



If i pick Garrus with Tungsten Ammo he rips through Armor with his Assault rifle pretty quick, without having to wait for his cooldown from Overload. He doesn't provide me a 15% damage bonus but the damage he can dish out with AR or Sniper is a lot higher as any damage bonus Miranda and her small guns provide. It just doesn't add up, no matter how you look at it. She is C class material.

[mundus66]

Every boss fight i do 80% of the bosses health at least. Do you honestly think there is one squad member that can make up for Mirandas 15% damage in that battle? There isn't.

And the point is she has both overload and warp which makes her useful everywhere. There is no other squad member who is useful everywhere. You can deny it all you want, but there just isn't any situation where she isn't good. Some encounters there are better squad members for, but she is always in the top 3, which makes her the best period.

When you fight crowds, abilites are better like overload and warp. Its only vs bosses where pure damage output is better. Here she boost my damage by 15%, which still makes her the best even if there are squad members that do more damage.

[Kurupt87]

teamates do 50% dmg of what it would be if you did it. ie, if you shoot someone with a sniper and do 100 dmg, a teamate would hit 50. while than and zaeed both get +50% passives, and combined with the dmg upgrades, they can deal serious dmg, eg, have squad warp ammo and take them to collectors, or squad disruptor vs geth, its funny. but that isnt fun, fun is you doing the dmg yourself, relying on teamates only for defense stripping. relying on teamates for sustained dmg, which is what you're arguing for, is just asking for trouble, and imo pretty boring. thane loves to die, and zaeed is pretty damn fond of it as well, and using medigel frequently ruins it for me.

miranda

legion; grunt; garrus; thane; samara

morinth; mordin; tali; zaeed

jacob; jack

[Kajan451]

So lets agree to disagree. I don't consider her useful. I rather take Garrus along as Miranda. He is useful in a lot more situations than she is.. at least in my playstyle.



And it doesn't matter to me if i need in the... what 5 boss fights?... one shot more because i am lacking a 0.15 multiplier. I'd rather breeze through the rest of the level and finish bosses with Heavy weapons like the Cain for example.

[Besetment]

Trefecka wrote...

I'm surprised how everyone hates Zaeed so much. I find he's awesome as an early game anti-synthetic/shield with squad disruptor + assault rifle/sniper.

Yeah seriously. He has Concussive Shot which works on damn near everything. He gets 50% damage boost with weapons and can use the Incisor which is one of the most ridiculously powerful weapons you can put on a squadmate. And he can take Squad Disruptor which is very useful if you don't have it on Shep. Theres no way Zaeed is bottom tier. If anything hes close to the top.

Modifié par Besetment, 14 février 2010 - 02:26 .