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[Nemesis7884]

i don't think it will have a big influence in da:a - not as much as me1 to me2... especially cause you get the new origin... so i think it wont matter all that much...

[cmessaz]

But then it is like an all new game, not an expansion. I want the story to continue on at least to some degree if you import a character.

[Bratt1204]

SurelyForth wrote...

You don't get married until 6 months after the coronation at the end of Origins. The events in Awakening happen very soon after the archdemon is slain, so it may well be before the wedding. Thus, you wouldn't be queen/king-consort yet.

I think I've seen you post this before. I specifically read were Fernando Melo stated is was set about 6 months after Origins, did you something that said differently?

[Bratt1204]

Tear_Coast wrote...

well all they care about in the end is their pockets.

Yes but if they come up with an expansion that people do not like, they will NOT end up getting money in their pockets as a result. As the saying goes '"you need to spend money to make money".

[Bratt1204]

fluffyamoeba wrote...

Given that there's a big pile of Grey Wardens in the expansion to tell you what you didn't want to hear at the end of origins, if you're female, it's likely the wedding gets called off :/

Someone at Bioware will get slapped if that's the case <_<

[Bratt1204]

fluffyamoeba wrote...

Well, you don't really get a happy ending even if you're queen. Was hoping that my PC might get to marry Alistair before he found out the truth so she could get a few months of happiness in

What truth??

[xzxzxz701]

Bratt1204 wrote...

fluffyamoeba wrote...

Well, you don't really get a happy ending even if you're queen. Was hoping that my PC might get to marry Alistair before he found out the truth so she could get a few months of happiness in

What truth??

I think he means that Grey Wardens can't have kids.

[cmessaz]

Yes! Someone at Bioware will get slapped. Thank you Bratt

Modifié par cmessaz, 22 février 2010 - 09:16 .

[Bratt1204]

distinguetraces wrote...

There's queens regnant and queens consort, but there's no such thing as a king consort.

The husband of a reigning queen is a prince.

A Queen Regent can request her husband be given the title of King-Consort. But yes, Prince-Consort is the correct term for husband of a Queen-Regent.

[Bratt1204]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

fluffyamoeba wrote...

Well, you don't really get a happy ending even if you're queen. Was hoping that my PC might get to marry Alistair before he found out the truth so she could get a few months of happiness in

What truth??

I think he means that Grey Wardens can't have kids.

Nothing is impossible......ever.

[cmessaz]

Ok, he says after the landsmeet that it is possible that they can't have an heir. So obviously he knew.

[SurelyForth]

Bratt1204 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

You don't get married until 6 months after the coronation at the end of Origins. The events in Awakening happen very soon after the archdemon is slain, so it may well be before the wedding. Thus, you wouldn't be queen/king-consort yet.

I think I've seen you post this before. I specifically read were Fernando Melo stated is was set about 6 months after Origins, did you something that said differently?

I've read in a couple of places where he and others have said "a few months" after the Archdemon is slain, which I figured would put Awakening in before any definitive actions mentioned in the epilogues (ie. the wedding). I could be utterly wrong, though.

[maxernst]

In medieval times, you would probably have been King (at least effectively)because a woman was rarely considered a candidate for rulership. Even though William of Orange was technically only prince consort after his wife Mary was given the English throne in 1689, he is often referred to as King William III. And women rulers were much more accepted by the 17th century than in medieval times.



In the real world, even if Anora had been Maric's legitimate daughter, she would have needed help to claim the throne. Matilda was Henry I's legitimate daughter and had the backing of her father to succeed him, but still wasn't allowed to rule.



Of course, the sexes are considerably more equal in Ferelden and women can command on the battlefield (an important consideration in a feudal monarchy), so maybe the modern royal family where Prince Philip is simply the Queen's husband is a fair analogy. But since a Princess Consort can't inherit the throne, is it really clear who is monarch in a PC marries Anora scenario? If Alistair marries Anora, he would definitely be King, but this is a muddy situation to me.

[Bratt1204]

SurelyForth wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

You don't get married until 6 months after the coronation at the end of Origins. The events in Awakening happen very soon after the archdemon is slain, so it may well be before the wedding. Thus, you wouldn't be queen/king-consort yet.

I think I've seen you post this before. I specifically read were Fernando Melo stated is was set about 6 months after Origins, did you something that said differently?

I've read in a couple of places where he and others have said "a few months" after the Archdemon is slain, which I figured would put Awakening in before any definitive actions mentioned in the epilogues (ie. the wedding). I could be utterly wrong, though.

I'm certain that is done intentionally to cause speculation and confusion. 

[cmessaz]

Seriously, thanks for that post maxernst. It's good to know how things are supposed to be. I have wondered about that as I play through dragon age, but in the US we generally don't know much about that kind of thing.

[Liso66]

Then there is the other scenario... "We'll See" Best line by Duncan from Alistair.. I am tired of speculating. I just plan on having fun, enjoying all their hard work to spend my $$$ <insert amount here> for my personal entertainment.



I would love to see some follow through. However, I keep trying to see this as a really good book. It is sad when you are coming to those last pages because the story you are so immersed in is coming to an end. But wait! A shiny new book sitting on display? I am not going to stop reading because my book ended. I'll go find another book... This is with all my respectful opinion...

[cmessaz]

I just hope I'm reading a continuation of the book I've been immersed in for months, not a completely new book..but I agree, we shall see.

[Liso66]

@ cmessaz I agree with your signature question!

[Jeffonl1]

William III is a interesting example... he did have his own claim to the throne (although inferior to his wife) but more importantly he had an army and considerable backing. Even so he had to compromise with parliament - and his wife gave up up her claim as sole ruler. His compromise with parliament also ended the "Divine Right" of english kings.

He won the right to be ruler in his own name (athough he only generally ruled in the winter - being at war in Europe the rest of the time - Mary ruled in his place the rest of the time: a true co-regency).

I think I can see a rough analogy to some of the endings of DAO

[cmessaz]

Liso66 wrote...

@ cmessaz I agree with your signature question!

I liked him for his comedy, but he was usless to me the way I play. He and Sten got to know each other well in their long waits at camp while the rest of us were out doing business. I just wish it had been one of the other characters. ANY of the other characters actually.

[fluffyamoeba]

Well, in RL, the wife of a reigning king is a queen, the husband of a reigning queen seems to be called different things as it didn't happen that often. But this is because of the patriarchal succession rules in those monarchies. I don't think there's any references as to how succession works in Ferelden. Other than being married to a dead monarch apparently giving you some right to the throne.



*rogue PC stands innocently behind Alistair with a dagger*

[Gabey5]

doubtful... would they let the king prance about?

[Alandros]

Gabey5 wrote...

doubtful... would they let the king prance about?

More appropriately, would they be able to stop the King/Queen (prince/princess-consort or whatever) from prancing about, especially considering they are the Warden Hero of Ferelden bada**. 

[Bratt1204]

fluffyamoeba wrote...

Well, in RL, the wife of a reigning king is a queen, the husband of a reigning queen seems to be called different things as it didn't happen that often. But this is because of the patriarchal succession rules in those monarchies. I don't think there's any references as to how succession works in Ferelden. Other than being married to a dead monarch apparently giving you some right to the throne.

*rogue PC stands innocently behind Alistair with a dagger*

Seriously unrealistic. They do not mention the form of Monarchism that is recognized in Ferelden. So I assume it is the Fairy Tale Monarchy. 

[Loc'n'lol]

fluffyamoeba wrote...
Other than being married to a dead monarch apparently giving you some right to the throne.

I think it's more like, being the daughter of a badass general no one dares to stand against gives you some right to being his puppet on the throne...