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[Bryy_Miller]

Maria Caliban wrote...

ponozsticka wrote...

I guess, that once you´ll import sacrfised character, you won´t die, but it´ll take a path of Morigan´s proposal, or so.

I expect the same. The ultimate sacrifice ending is just being ignored. The game simply doesn't acknowledge it.

Instead, the Dark Ritual is the 'default.' By DA 2, it will simply be canon.

Here's a thought: maybe bugs are not features.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Maviarab wrote...

lol Knight...they said a lot of things 'depending on choices' and now we are finding out the truth hehe

Well it's written and is basically confirmed. I wouldn't take skepticism that far as to doubt what they wrote on the official site.

[Aldridgeguy]

Bann Duncan wrote...

Azure Zero wrote...


Simple, DA was already a year or so in development prior to Bioware being swallowed by EA, so it was able to be well made with an intricate story. Awakening didn't get that reprieve so it is clearly a rushed project under EA calling the shots. That is my theory at least.

Oh dear God... not this crap again.

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Modifié par Aldridgeguy, 14 février 2010 - 09:14 .

[Curlain]

Maviarab wrote...

lol Knight...they said a lot of things 'depending on choices' and now we are finding out the truth hehe

Of course, they might not have specified who's choices their were talking about, ours or theirs  

That said, on game that loads from on of our PC save I assume (which might be a big mistake) that it will follow the decisions imported from that save 

Modifié par Curlain, 14 février 2010 - 09:26 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Curlain wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

lol Knight...they said a lot of things 'depending on choices' and now we are finding out the truth hehe

Of course, they might not have specified who's choices their were talking about, ours or theirs  

That said, on game that loads from on of our PC save I assume (which might be a big mistake) that it will follow the decisions imported from that save 

"Besides Oghren who plays a large role in Awakening, there are cameos and returning characters. For companions you'll potentially meet Loghain, Wynne, and Alistair depending on your decisions in Origins"

Our choices.

[Feraele]

Curlain wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

lol Knight...they said a lot of things 'depending on choices' and now we are finding out the truth hehe

Of course, they might not have specified who's choices their were talking about, ours or theirs  

That said, on game that loads from on of our PC save I assume (which might be a big mistake) that it will follow the decisions imported from that save 

Well now we know...its not our choices

[Feraele]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Curlain wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

lol Knight...they said a lot of things 'depending on choices' and now we are finding out the truth hehe

Of course, they might not have specified who's choices their were talking about, ours or theirs  

That said, on game that loads from on of our PC save I assume (which might be a big mistake) that it will follow the decisions imported from that save 

"Besides Oghren who plays a large role in Awakening, there are cameos and returning characters. For companions you'll potentially meet Loghain, Wynne, and Alistair depending on your decisions in Origins"

Our choices.

I quote " an old favorite is returning"   whose old favorite....Ohgren?  *wrinkles her nose in amusement* 

I think you can check my prior posts in regards to this issue..where I specifically asked the question...WHOSE old favorite.   From what I see on these fora.....it certainly had nothing to do with alot of people's favorites..it had to do with Bioware's....and why on earth  they picked him is beyond me.   

He is FAR less interesting a character than..for example Sten...or Morrigan.

WHY is Wynne returning?    Isn't she on her last legs..about to die when that "good spirit from the Fade"...leaves?

Loghain...I have killed off in ALL of my 12 playthroughs.......so yeah.

"Players' choices will carry through to Awakening"......

mmmm kay which ones were those again?

None?

Yeah that would be about right.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Feraele wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
"Besides Oghren who plays a large role in Awakening, there are cameos and returning characters. For companions you'll potentially meet Loghain, Wynne, and Alistair depending on your decisions in Origins"

Our choices.

I quote " an old favorite is returning"   whose old favorite....Ohgren?  *wrinkles her nose in amusement* 

I think you can check my prior posts in regards to this issue..where I specifically asked the question...WHOSE old favorite.   From what I see on these fora.....it certainly had nothing to do with alot of people's favorites..it had to do with Bioware's....and why on earth  they picked him is beyond me.   

He is FAR less interesting a character than..for example Sten...or Morrigan.

WHY is Wynne returning?    Isn't she on her last legs..about to die when that "good spirit from the Fade"...leaves?

Loghain...I have killed off in ALL of my 12 playthroughs.......so yeah.

"Players' choices will carry through to Awakening"......

mmmm kay which ones were those again?

None?

Yeah that would be about right.

Why are you ranting at me? What I said has nothing to do with Oghren. So I have 0 interest in reading what you wrote about him, with all due respect.

What I quoted is clear. Loghain will appear depending on our choices. It's clear and written.
Loghain will not appear if you killed him. So relax.
If you want to doubt that, then go on right ahead.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 14 février 2010 - 10:25 .

[Feraele]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Feraele wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
"Besides Oghren who plays a large role in Awakening, there are cameos and returning characters. For companions you'll potentially meet Loghain, Wynne, and Alistair depending on your decisions in Origins"

Our choices.

I quote " an old favorite is returning"   whose old favorite....Ohgren?  *wrinkles her nose in amusement* 

I think you can check my prior posts in regards to this issue..where I specifically asked the question...WHOSE old favorite.   From what I see on these fora.....it certainly had nothing to do with alot of people's favorites..it had to do with Bioware's....and why on earth  they picked him is beyond me.   

He is FAR less interesting a character than..for example Sten...or Morrigan.

WHY is Wynne returning?    Isn't she on her last legs..about to die when that "good spirit from the Fade"...leaves?

Loghain...I have killed off in ALL of my 12 playthroughs.......so yeah.

"Players' choices will carry through to Awakening"......

mmmm kay which ones were those again?

None?

Yeah that would be about right.

Why are you ranting at me? What I said has nothing to do with Oghren. So I have 0 interest in reading what you wrote about him, with all due respect.

What I quoted is clear. Loghain will appear depending on our choices. It's clear and written.
Loghain will not appear if you killed him. So relax.
If you want to doubt that, then go on right ahead.

Ahh..sorry about that..guess I am just thoroughly displeased with the turn of events.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Feraele wrote...
Ahh..sorry about that..guess I am just thoroughly displeased with the turn of events.

No, I am sorry. I might have been a little too rude.
I will read what you wrote about Oghren

[Vicious]

I'd say Loghain and Oghren are the least favorite companions in the whole game. [in general, they happen to be my favorites] So lmao that one is a permenant companion and the other can appear if you performed the ritual, but no one else. awesome.

Modifié par Vicious, 14 février 2010 - 11:05 .

[Maria Caliban]

'Old favorite' is just marketing speak. Someone at EA probably came up with it. I assume BioWare picked Oghran because he's the hardest to kill in the first game.

[Demx]

So I'm guessing one of these scenarios played out while you were sleeping.

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan secretly performed the ritual with Alistair. (Female PCs)

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan drugged your drink that night and performed the ritual on you without your consent. (Male PCs)

I can just see it now.

Male PC Cries: No, means no Morrigan! No means no!!!

[RPGlover732]

I am really mad i cant import my choices

[fluffyamoeba]

The most obvious technical reason is this: if you want to use an ultimate sacrifice ending to start your new grey warden, then you are importing a save with one character and using it to start a game with a different character. In all the other scenarios you carry on playing the same character you import from the save.

(the dev remark was that they didn't actually know for certain one way or the other, it's still there.)

[Tyragon]

Why they picked characters like Oghren and Loghain? Could be because they got such a clouded backgrounds apart from all the other party members and being the ONLY ones who is or could be connected to the Deeproads and the grand story what is going on in Awakening.



Oghren afterall, got a really clouded story, I doubt all his years he walked around in Orzammar and then drank while whining for 2 years when Branka left him. Like the old saying goes: I believe there's more to him than meets the eye.



For Loghain, it is pretty obvious, he got a connection to the Deeproads and a clear story in Dragon Age through the books. I think it is a shame so many hate him just because he seems evil in the Origin. He is a hero and a strong character, you can see he made all the bad choices in the Origin with huge regret and thinking. I'd say Arl Howe was the real villain, not Loghain. So I believe he can bring an interesting story to Awakening and his true heroism.



Same goes for Wynne. Shes lived a long life and hell knows who what secrets she got, we got nothing uncovered. With the spirit in her, she could prove to become more of an important character to enhance the story than we think.





Overall, I think too many here go by the social part of what the game gave. The history, romance and sex. Bioware has said that they want to concentrate on the story more in Awakening instead of the social part. I don't see this as a bad thing to give it all up, it will only makes the game more awesome and perhaps we might see the true things, like the "death" of Duncan.

[Feraele]

Siradix wrote...

So I'm guessing one of these scenarios played out while you were sleeping.

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan secretly performed the ritual with Alistair. (Female PCs)

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan drugged your drink that night and performed the ritual on you without your consent. (Male PCs)

I can just see it now.

Male PC Cries: No, means no Morrigan! No means no!!!

So if "Morrigan performed the ritual on you"  (while you slept) does that mean she's a succubus?  lol ..I saw a you-tube video where there is actually a Morrigan..some sort of Irish folk tale..and she's a succubus.    Wonder if thats where the writers got her name from?   Interesting.

[ahnnajade]

lol

I gotta give you guys credit. This forum can set fire to the village like nothing else but at least you do it funny.



Has anyone found for sure any word that you can't import your game decisions, leave your warden dead, and make a new Orlesian PC? That this whole 'waving hand mystery pixie escape the sacrifice' deal isnt just another option for people who want to do it that way?

[Feraele]

Tyragon wrote...

Why they picked characters like Oghren and Loghain? Could be because they got such a clouded backgrounds apart from all the other party members and being the ONLY ones who is or could be connected to the Deeproads and the grand story what is going on in Awakening.

Oghren afterall, got a really clouded story, I doubt all his years he walked around in Orzammar and then drank while whining for 2 years when Branka left him. Like the old saying goes: I believe there's more to him than meets the eye.

For Loghain, it is pretty obvious, he got a connection to the Deeproads and a clear story in Dragon Age through the books. I think it is a shame so many hate him just because he seems evil in the Origin. He is a hero and a strong character, you can see he made all the bad choices in the Origin with huge regret and thinking. I'd say Arl Howe was the real villain, not Loghain. So I believe he can bring an interesting story to Awakening and his true heroism.

Same goes for Wynne. Shes lived a long life and hell knows who what secrets she got, we got nothing uncovered. With the spirit in her, she could prove to become more of an important character to enhance the story than we think.


Overall, I think too many here go by the social part of what the game gave. The history, romance and sex. Bioware has said that they want to concentrate on the story more in Awakening instead of the social part. I don't see this as a bad thing to give it all up, it will only makes the game more awesome and perhaps we might see the true things, like the "death" of Duncan.

What do you mean by that..."the true things, like the "death" of Duncan?  I suspect I know but ..just the same would be nicer to have clarification.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Siradix wrote...

So I'm guessing one of these scenarios played out while you were sleeping.

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan secretly performed the ritual with Alistair. (Female PCs)

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan drugged your drink that night and performed the ritual on you without your consent. (Male PCs)

I can just see it now.

Male PC Cries: No, means no Morrigan! No means no!!!

She could have done it with Riordan. And since Riordan is dead, we can never know for sure. It can work, but it would be very cheap on Bioware's part.

[Azure Zero]

ahnnajade wrote...

lol
I gotta give you guys credit. This forum can set fire to the village like nothing else but at least you do it funny.

Has anyone found for sure any word that you can't import your game decisions, leave your warden dead, and make a new Orlesian PC? That this whole 'waving hand mystery pixie escape the sacrifice' deal isnt just another option for people who want to do it that way?

Nope, there isn't any further clarification anywhere, and if we even get further info, wouldn't be till sometime tomorrow at the earliest.

[Cancermeat]

Litltle off topic: How much did they raise the level cap? Back on topic: If this is the first on many exspansions, i hope you can keep using the Orlesian Warden in them...

[Demx]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Siradix wrote...

So I'm guessing one of these scenarios played out while you were sleeping.

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan secretly performed the ritual with Alistair. (Female PCs)

Disappointed in your refusal, Morrigan drugged your drink that night and performed the ritual on you without your consent. (Male PCs)

I can just see it now.

Male PC Cries: No, means no Morrigan! No means no!!!

She could have done it with Riordan. And since Riordan is dead, we can never know for sure. It can work, but it would be very cheap on Bioware's part.

lol Whatever floats your boat.

[Feraele]

Cancermeat wrote...

Litltle off topic: How much did they raise the level cap? Back on topic: If this is the first on many exspansions, i hope you can keep using the Orlesian Warden in them...

Mid 30ish..I think I read.