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[FieryDove]

Maedryc wrote...


...damn ^^'' I've not played ME2 yet. Can we keep the spoilers out of these threads? 

Back in topic...while my characters never did the US, I understand how you feel.
However, considering that the FAQ is not that clear on the matter, I hope the rumor is addressed and debunked.
Still, a clarification from a dev would be nice, one way or another.

Sorry bout that...it was kinda already said...even here. But don't ever quote the offending text...then again go ahead, Stanley needs more to do editing everyone's replies.

[Fabler4]

Edited so people stop quoting this one.../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png

Modifié par Fabler4, 16 février 2010 - 01:25 .

[Maedryc]

FieryDove wrote...

Maedryc wrote...


...damn ^^'' I've not played ME2 yet. Can we keep the spoilers out of these threads? 

Back in topic...while my characters never did the US, I understand how you feel.
However, considering that the FAQ is not that clear on the matter, I hope the rumor is addressed and debunked.
Still, a clarification from a dev would be nice, one way or another.

Sorry bout that...it was kinda already said...even here. But don't ever quote the offending text...then again go ahead, Stanley needs more to do editing everyone's replies.

Np, I should have stopped reading as soon as I saw ME2 mentioned. I guess I read faster than I think...
Anyway, you're right, I've edited my post.

[Azure Zero]

Fabler4 wrote...

K, I know you people don't like the idea of the dead warden. The FAQ states though that if the player doesn't mind not having consequence then they don't mind. Half of my wardens did the US, I'd like to have one or two come through. Mainly because some are mess ups.

Seriously, if you don't want to break immersion, then don't use it. Yeah people can say that, and it's annoying but it's true. It in no-way affects you if you don't want it to.

Like many others you have missed the entire point. Try reading more than the original post or thread title before replying. Darrenr22's post on page 9 is a good one to read as are alot of the posts from page 12-14.

That it is an option for those that don't mind is not the issue the discussion is about.

[steelfire_dragon]

and here I thought the Maker was not yet done with you.

I deficate on your maker's chantry.

[Fabler4]

Azure Zero wrote...

Fabler4 wrote...

K, I know you people don't like the idea of the dead warden. The FAQ states though that if the player doesn't mind not having consequence then they don't mind. Half of my wardens did the US, I'd like to have one or two come through. Mainly because some are mess ups.

Seriously, if you don't want to break immersion, then don't use it. Yeah people can say that, and it's annoying but it's true. It in no-way affects you if you don't want it to.

Like many others you have missed the entire point. Try reading more than the original post or thread title before replying. Darrenr22's post on page 9 is a good one to read as are alot of the posts from page 12-14.

That it is an option for those that don't mind is not the issue the discussion is about.

Dude you seriously over-estimate my ability to read for more than 3 minutes,../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png it's just a lot of reading../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png

[Lith Maethor]

none of my Wardens made the Ultimate Sacrifice and this still pisses me off (assuming at least that we interpret the situation and comments correctly)



what pisses me off even more however, is the fact some people are allowed near a computer when they cannot even comprehend simple sentences

[Maria Caliban]

Fabler,

The issue is that some people would like to import their decisions from the original game AND play as the Orlesian Warden. They don't want to play as their Ultimate Sacrifice character because that character is dead.

[Fabler4]

Merci beaucoup Maria. That makes my life easier. That does make sense, and I can see why y'all are wondering/upset. Yes I said y'all. I guess it's possible that it could happen, like other people have said, word on it would be nice.

[FieryDove]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Fabler,
The issue is that some people would like to import their decisions from the original game AND play as the Orlesian Warden. They don't want to play as their Ultimate Sacrifice character because that character is dead.

Agreed, most of my characters died and will stay that way.

I would love it if my choices counted but it would be difficult to do, I don't see it happening.

[Rylor Tormtor]

Fabler4 wrote...

K, I know you people don't like the idea of the dead warden. The FAQ states though that if the player doesn't mind not having consequence then they don't mind. Half of my wardens did the US, I'd like to have one or two come through. Mainly because some are mess ups.

Seriously, if you don't want to break immersion, then don't use it. Yeah people can say that, and it's annoying but it's true. It in no-way affects you if you don't want it to.

Here is the problem:

Our guy(gal) is dead. We are happy with that. It fits the US we made.

We want to import the CHOICES we made and start with the Orlesian Warden.

The information seems to indicate that we cannot right now.

Man, you people are worse than my undergrads as far as reading goes.

EDIT: Everyone else was being nice, so I felt bad and edited. Anyways, if three minutes is too much reading for you, I kinda hate you anyways

Modifié par Rylor Tormtor, 16 février 2010 - 12:53 .

[Demx]

Just take a deep breath and remember, "What Would Duncan Do?"

[Fabler4]

Rylor Tormtor wrote...
EDIT: Everyone else was being nice, so I felt bad and edited. Anyways, if three minutes is too much reading for you, I kinda hate you anyways

I was joking../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png. I love reading, just not comments.

It does make sense, I do hope that they do that, adding your choices for Orlesian Warden person.

As I said I've had half my people die.../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png

[Super_Cat]

What's really funny is that in the FAQ it seems to imply that if you import your dead warden, they don't make up some survival or revival story, instead they just hand wave the whole death thing.



I would like to play as a dead warden if they make humorous references to my strange survival.



"Hey, didn't you die?"

"I got better."



"Shouldn't you be dead?"

"That's what they keep telling me."



"So how did you survive?"

*shrugs* "I dunno, I'm just a walking plot hole."

[Rann]

That's how Drizzt was handled in the BG series... :-)



Seriously, though, it seems like a pretty silly thing to get worked up about. I could just easy easily argue that I shouldn't be allowed to play-through DAO a second time since, after all, the Darkspawn were already defeated by the Warden -- I mean, where's the realism? :-)



Think of it as an alternate universe where your Warden survived, thus making Bioware's life a little easier (instead of having to cover the myriad ways that the game might have turned out in starting DAA).

[Demx]

The FAQ responses are funny.

"If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening?

If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden". Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story in this regard - neither do we."

lol So basically this is telling me that Bioware said: What? You want to play as your dead character? Fine, but you'll have to fill in the blanks, we're not going to change a thing or mention anything about it in the game.

What about our romances from DA:O?
There's a new threat on the horizon that's far away, you have no time for it.

Ok. How about new romances?
Weren't you listening? Your up against a new threat, you don't have time to get busy with the NPCs in your party this time.

Can I still use my DLC items?
Those? Oh, those were strictly made for Origins.

Well can I at least change my specs?
Sure! But you have to go to Herren in the Vigil's Keep courtyard to buy a "Manual of Focus" for 6 gold pieces. Don't worry Herren has an unlimited supply.

Modifié par Siradix, 16 février 2010 - 02:21 .

[Korvayer]

Maedryc wrote...

Np, I should have stopped reading as soon as I saw ME2 mentioned. I guess I read faster than I think...

That, or you read from bottom to top and from right to left.

[Thalorin1919]

I want to be able to import my dead Grey Warden not so that I can play him, but so his actions carry on into Awakening. He is dead, his soul vanished with the soul of an Old God. You cant just "bend" the story to that. I might as well of had sex with Morrigan if my actions wont transfer, but my Grey Warden pulled off some kind of miracle.



If they really do the whole "You somehow survived, even though you were on a tomb at the end of Origins" and dont just import my actions into the new Orlesian Grey Warden, this is going to suck. The story is great, I dont want it ruined by this.



It seems like Bioware is appeasing more to the people who had someone else sacrifice to kill the Archdemon or took Morrigans offer, rather then our Grey Warden taking the sacrifice himself. Crap I must say.

[T1l]

Siradix wrote...

The FAQ responses are funny...

Well can I at least change my specs?

Sure! But you have to go to Herren in the Vigil's Keep courtyard to buy a "Manual of Focus" for 6 gold pieces. Don't worry Herren has an unlimited supply.

This was one of the things that made me srs-face as well; why would I pay 6 gold to re-spec when I can just use a mod and do it for free? I guess this is directed at console owners?

[Azure Zero]

Rann wrote...

That's how Drizzt was handled in the BG series... :-)

Seriously, though, it seems like a pretty silly thing to get worked up about. I could just easy easily argue that I shouldn't be allowed to play-through DAO a second time since, after all, the Darkspawn were already defeated by the Warden -- I mean, where's the realism? :-)

Think of it as an alternate universe where your Warden survived, thus making Bioware's life a little easier (instead of having to cover the myriad ways that the game might have turned out in starting DAA).

Except for the fact playing through origins again is starting a new story not continuing your previous one which is what the expansion is doing, or at least supposed to be doing.

[Demx]

T1l wrote...

Siradix wrote...

The FAQ responses are funny...

Well can I at least change my specs?

Sure! But you have to go to Herren in the Vigil's Keep courtyard to buy a "Manual of Focus" for 6 gold pieces. Don't worry Herren has an unlimited supply.

This was one of the things that made me srs-face as well; why would I pay 6 gold to re-spec when I can just use a mod and do it for free? I guess this is directed at console owners?

Most likely, or those who don't want to mod their games.

[Maria Caliban]

Siradix wrote...

Just take a deep breath and remember, "What Would Duncan Do?"

Kill them if they try to escape?

[Walina]

Maria Caliban wrote...

How utterly stupid.

I recall during the development when one of the writers said they wanted a setting where death had meaning. So much for that. Apparently ‘ultimate sacrifice’ is more like ‘temporary inconvenience.’

Honestly, I’d have thought that ME 2 showed how little BioWare cares about choices and consequences, but this is a new low.

Honestly, I think they will let you the choice to continue your dead character or not when you will import your save if they're not stupid.

[steelfire_dragon]

Duncan says, play a warden from orlai er however it spelled

[f4k3s4nt4]

T1l wrote...
This was one of the things that made me srs-face as well; why would I pay 6 gold to re-spec when I can just use a mod and do it for free?

Why would you spend gold on anything in game since you can have a mod and do it for free?

Some people actually enjoy to play the game the way it was presented.