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[Mirthadrond]

Isn't DA:A taking place far away from where DA:O occurred, in which case, nothing other than who is king / queen, and is your warden known, or an unknown, really matter.

Imported = known

New Character = unknown



What other events matter? In 'this' expansion?

[Feraele]

Mirthadrond wrote...

Isn't DA:A taking place far away from where DA:O occurred, in which case, nothing other than who is king / queen, and is your warden known, or an unknown, really matter.
Imported = known
New Character = unknown

What other events matter? In 'this' expansion?

It's just up the coastline..from Denerim..its not really that far away.   The places we've been to on the overall map are teeny, tiny..in comparison with the whole map.

   Amaranthine belonged to the Howes.......Howe was very much involved in the plotting and scheming that went on ..in and around Denerim.  A king/queen would rule Ferelden..not just  Denerim.

[AlanC9]

I'm a little confused -- it's not like Bio is forcing anyone to use the save if your Warden made TUS. I'm just not going to use that save, and I'm not quite clear why anyone who cares about this sort of thing would want to. What have I missed?

[AlanC9]

But then who would I be playing in the expansion? Are people seriously looking for an expansion that is built around two possible PCs with completely different histories?

Forgive me for not reading all 34 pages.

Edit: never mind -- didn't know about the Orlesian warden thing. How dumb -- what's the point of doing that option if you're not going to support a dead DA:O Warden?

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 mars 2010 - 08:39 .

[Challseus]

AlanC9 wrote...

But then who would I be playing in the expansion? Are people seriously looking for an expansion that is built around two possible PCs with completely different histories?

Forgive me for not reading all 34 pages.

I'm wondering this as well, and asked a similar question in another US-ish thread.

EDIT - Actually, I may understand what they're getting at. Are people saying, they want to be able to use the Orlesian warden, but have the choices you made in your US game still stand? Some sort of reflection where someone is like, "Yeah, you're here because our last Ferelden grey warden sacrificed his/herself".

Is that it?

Modifié par Challseus, 03 mars 2010 - 07:43 .

[Reaverwind]

AlanC9 wrote...

But then who would I be playing in the expansion? Are people seriously looking for an expansion that is built around two possible PCs with completely different histories?

Forgive me for not reading all 34 pages.

The Orlesian, obviously. And no, you misunderstand. What those of us with US wardens want is the same sort of continuity to the gameworld that surviving wardens will get, in regard to who's on the throne at the end of Origins, etc. Bioware seemed to initially state that would be the case, but it seems now that won't be happening.

[wcholcombe]

To clear up confusion on where the game takes place:

Here is Amarathine:
http://images2.wikia...Amaranthine.PNG

Here is Ferelden:
http://images2.wikia...Map_-_World.jpg

and here is Thedas:
http://images1.wikia...0/ThedasMap.jpg


It would appear that Amarathine is  near Denerim.

[Rama_88]

Lol this thread makes most trolls in the "Big doubt..." thread to look stupid, good job guys explaining exactly what we want and why. It certainly amaze me how many people had a GREAT problem getting to understand this issue in that thread, its like some people couldnt read or something, sooo annoying.

[Karlojey]

Maybe someone uses Andraste's ashes on our dead warden? Hehe just kidding.



I have a playthrough where I used TUS too. It is a bummer that this ending doesn't make sense, but hey, the game hasn't been out yet so we don't know what exactly will happen...



...come to think of it my Andraste's ashes theory sounds plausible the more I think about it. It's the Lazarus Project of DA:A hehehe.

[SurelyForth]

Do we know for certain that it's just a "small technical issue" that is preventing the US world choices from being imported into Awakening? It seems like it could be hugely complicated, since the world is already partially "redesigned" to react to an Orlesian Warden, adding in the variables of a previous character's choices would be even more convoluted. That would be akin to acknowledging the decisions you make in any given origin when you are playing another origin in the main game. Considering the glitches in DAO once you get past the Landsmeet, I imagine that they would rather risk fan ire than have a game that is half-functional.

[Onyx Jaguar]

SurelyForth wrote...

Do we know for certain that it's just a "small technical issue" that is preventing the US world choices from being imported into Awakening? It seems like it could be hugely complicated, since the world is already partially "redesigned" to react to an Orlesian Warden, adding in the variables of a previous character's choices would be even more convoluted. That would be akin to acknowledging the decisions you make in any given origin when you are playing another origin in the main game. Considering the glitches in DAO once you get past the Landsmeet, I imagine that they would rather risk fan ire than have a game that is half-functional.

In theory there shouldn't be all that huge of an impact as while it takes place in Ferelden it still is disconnected a bit from the Circle and Orzammar which are ultimately where your most major decisions take place (siding with the werewovles v elves isn't that major because it was only one Dalish tribe).  It is more of "who" appears in awakenings I guess and what will happen in future expansions.  I mean I don't want one expansion dictating other expansions over the main game.

[redlight]

Maybe Billy Crystal has a cameo.. "It just so happens that your friend here is mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead".... or maybe Andraste's ashes become more than just a tourist attraction. Maybe the sacrifice save game can be imported, but you have the option to play a new character.



There are a lot of possibilities. Let's give Bioware a chance. Just because they brought Oghren back doesn't mean that good decisions haven't been made.

[Revya]

Hmm if its like this for an expansion, what will happen if they make the dark ritual canon for DA2...



Any way the game is almost.

[Maria Caliban]

Indeed. All aboard the canon train.

[Rylor Tormtor]

Awakening: Choice 2.0 *





*Not compatible with Choice 1.0

[Cancermeat]

I remember killing Edwin and Minsc in BG1 and nobody seemed to mind that they survived the game as cannon for BG2...

[Shady314]

Or flat out telling you that you that you ended up traveling with Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Dynaheir and Khalid.

But people DID complain about it. The whining is nothing new.

Modifié par Shady314, 05 mars 2010 - 03:30 .

[Feraele]

Challseus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

But then who would I be playing in the expansion? Are people seriously looking for an expansion that is built around two possible PCs with completely different histories?

Forgive me for not reading all 34 pages.

I'm wondering this as well, and asked a similar question in another US-ish thread.

EDIT - Actually, I may understand what they're getting at. Are people saying, they want to be able to use the Orlesian warden, but have the choices you made in your US game still stand? Some sort of reflection where someone is like, "Yeah, you're here because our last Ferelden grey warden sacrificed his/herself".

Is that it?

Yes exactly..thanks for taking time to understand, there are so many that don't..but they offer up the opinion..either :  well just do the hand-waive..OR well just don't play your dead warden then.

Frustrating to attempt to explain to each and every one ..what the real issues are.  

I pretty much don't any more, if they can't be bothered to read..well I guess there's nothing I can do to help them with that.

[grieferbastard]

It would be easy to speculate as to why the US isn't supported the same way as the other choices. Admittedly though, at every other point in the game save one (fighting out with Anora the first time) if your Warden dies the game ends. You have to either quit or reload.

I'm about finished with a US-ending character just to have done it. Perhaps I'll understand the depth of the angst displayed in the last 30+ pages after that but admittedly I'll probably play Awakenings through with the other characters I've got who didn't do the US and then another time as the Orlesian just to see the difference.

I can empathize though. You've got an expectation built up of a particular product, something you want and are excited about and suddenly find that it's not going to meet your expectations. Unfortunate, I wish there was a solution for you.

[Cancermeat]

Shady314 wrote...

Or flat out telling you that you that you ended up traveling with Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Dynaheir and Khalid.

But people DID complain about it. The whining is nothing new.

My bad, i was just giving them the benefit of the doubt . Probably didnt stop them from doing 20 straight playthroughs of the game either 

[Rylor Tormtor]

Feraele wrote...

Challseus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

But then who would I be playing in the expansion? Are people seriously looking for an expansion that is built around two possible PCs with completely different histories?

Forgive me for not reading all 34 pages.

I'm wondering this as well, and asked a similar question in another US-ish thread.

EDIT - Actually, I may understand what they're getting at. Are people saying, they want to be able to use the Orlesian warden, but have the choices you made in your US game still stand? Some sort of reflection where someone is like, "Yeah, you're here because our last Ferelden grey warden sacrificed his/herself".

Is that it?

Yes exactly..thanks for taking time to understand, there are so many that don't..but they offer up the opinion..either :  well just do the hand-waive..OR well just don't play your dead warden then.

Frustrating to attempt to explain to each and every one ..what the real issues are.  

I pretty much don't any more, if they can't be bothered to read..well I guess there's nothing I can do to help them with that.

Yes, I find the argument disturbingly similiar to those who troll the self-help tech forums. You know the  "since their game works perfectly, the problems with yours is probably a reflection of your deep moral inadequecy" kinda people.