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[Haexpane]

The Woldan wrote...

Yes, lame indeed. Maybe some future mods will help in that matter.

Not for us PS3 owners

[NvVanity]

Eh even if we loose the DLC items who's to say there won't be stronger cooler looking versions? Considering we're now officially the Warden Commander I bet we'd find a set of it lying around somewhere.

[Alandros]

As much as I can sympathize what's the point of buying an entire expansion just to wear old DLC items? Isn't the whole point to get new items and new content?

[Metallicka]

Yrkoon wrote...

Didius Falco wrote...


I would even accept it if you started a new character instead of importing one, since logically, the new character wouldn't have the equipment that the old character(s) had. Though it wouldn't surprise me to see a DLC for Awakenings that let you go back and re-recover the DLC gear - probably named something like "Return to Inventory", aka "Salt in the Wound". 

Lmao!

Complete with Codex entries and Quest logs:


Item Codex entry #27:   Helm of Honnleath.    Here  is the Helm of Honnleath, again.  Fate has  decreed that  it should not  be seperated from the head of the Gray Warden ever again. Fate has not  decreed anything about the rest of the Gray Warden's body from the neck down, however.

Item Codex Entry #28  Cadish Stompers.  These boots are made for walking.  And that's just what they'll do.    One of these days these boots are gonna walk right back to you!


Item Codex Entry #33:  Marek's blade.  From Marek to you in a DLC or two.


Also featured in this DLC:  2 new Acheivements.

1) In war, Victory.  In Peace, Vigilence. In Case of DLC item theft: RECOVERY!
2) Loot re-snatcher  (10 points)

LMAO! I think I just found my sig!

[Ervik82]

Cant you take with the good gear to the expansion pack? like the kings Armor etcc`?

[Ervik82]

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[Metallicka]

Ervik82 wrote...

Cant you take with the good gear to the expansion pack? like the kings Armor etcc`?

No, that's what we're complaining about.

[lisakover]

Come on Bioware stop ****footing around it and answer the issue!

[lisakover]

Come on Bioware stop ****footing around it and answer the issue!

[Ervik82]

Crap sucks big time!!!!!

[Chris Priestly]

Dragon Age: Origins DLC (from DAO or other prior DLC) is not available in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening as we've already said.

While I know some fans are not happy with this, the main reason is, due to the advanced level of Awakening, the items you want to bring in would be rapidly less effective than the materials you start with or find early on in the game. Yes, in DA:O Starfang (or similar) are very powerful, but since you can reach level 30+ in Awakening, they would be ineffectual.

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

[Morroian]

But we still start at the level we were at at the end of DAO I presume and they still effective at that point so why wouldn't they be effective at the beginning of Awakenings? And we can then make the choice to keep or discard them along the way. Or why not upgrade them like we could do in DAO?

[melkathi]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins DLC (from DAO or other prior DLC) is not available in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening as we've already said.

While I know some fans are not happy with this, the main reason is, due to the advanced level of Awakening, the items you want to bring in would be rapidly less effective than the materials you start with or find early on in the game. Yes, in DA:O Starfang (or similar) are very powerful, but since you can reach level 30+ in Awakening, they would be ineffectual.

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

Though that fails to address the objection quite a few people have to removing items that held emotional attachment. The character can not hold on to duncans blades, the joining cup (my character didn't gift it to Alistair but kept it - for when she would rebuild the wardens, should she survive the blight) for example.
Dragon Age caters not only to power gamers and min maxers. There is a large fanbase that cares more about story and what items mean.
Just think of how many city elves have worn their wedding ring throughout the game. Imagine that was a DLC item and you told people "don't worry you'll get a better one".

[lisakover]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins DLC (from DAO or other prior DLC) is not available in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening as we've already said.

While I know some fans are not happy with this, the main reason is, due to the advanced level of Awakening, the items you want to bring in would be rapidly less effective than the materials you start with or find early on in the game. Yes, in DA:O Starfang (or similar) are very powerful, but since you can reach level 30+ in Awakening, they would be ineffectual.

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

Once again.

[Eudaemonium]

Chris Priestly wrote...
While I know some fans are not happy with this, the main reason is, due to the advanced level of Awakening, the items you want to bring in would be rapidly less effective than the materials you start with or find early on in the game. Yes, in DA:O Starfang (or similar) are very powerful, but since you can reach level 30+ in Awakening, they would be ineffectual.

Thanks Chris. The lack of DLC items in Awakening hasn't bothered me because I assumed what you've just stated (even more powerful equipment available soon after starting). Nonetheless, as such. wouldn't it just have been simpler to have the DLC stuff continue over and have the players dispose of it when they could? Was there some sort of coding issue that meant in order to import DLC the dev team had to put in far more work than was necessary as the equipment's usefulness would be overrided within a short time playing? If so, I can understand why Bioware decided against it. I'm just curious if this was a factor in the decision.

[Ahisgewaya]

THe main problem I have with this is: Are there any armor items that look as badass as the Warden Commander Armor?

[Ahisgewaya]

I could care less about power levels. I just want to look good. (yes, I know I'm vain)

[Maedryc]

Which pretty much means I'm done with the DLCs.
Would' ve liked to know before we actually bought RtO, but, oh well, you can't really rob people if you warn them in advance, right?

Edit: don't get me wrong, I appreciate that Chris showed up to address the matter. Still, don't expect a hug from me if this is the reason behind the decision.

Modifié par Maedryc, 18 février 2010 - 11:23 .

[axan22]

its not that we didnt think we would get better items its more the principle, i assumed as we were paying real money for the DLC and they were now part of our game, that when our characters moved though they would be part of our story, not having the items is the same as saying the events didnt happen, and if you want us to think that then why are you releasing content that doesnt affect or become part of out story in any way? and any news on if the abilities are the same ? the DLC is great and i really liked playing though it but i am dissapointed it does not tie into the games bigger picture as i thought it would, and does that mean future DLC will for awakening or any more for origins will not affect anything or anyone in the game world so its as if it never happened.

[KigenBarzhad]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins DLC (from DAO or other prior DLC) is not available in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening as we've already said.

While I know some fans are not happy with this, the main reason is, due to the advanced level of Awakening, the items you want to bring in would be rapidly less effective than the materials you start with or find early on in the game. Yes, in DA:O Starfang (or similar) are very powerful, but since you can reach level 30+ in Awakening, they would be ineffectual.

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

I have to say, shouldn't that make importing them in to the game even *less* of an issue. I can see taking them out if the DLC items were comparable to the items you get in Awakening (because it would nullify all the content you've created.) Should we the players decide what items we do and do not want to discard, sell, or destroy of the items we've already obtained!?

It's hard to appreciate what was give if we cannot even hold/keep it in our Awakening inventory it in a sentimental
regard. I for one, keep all special/uniques I've ever collect and don't use in my chest in Warden's Keep. I do not sell them.

Modifié par KigenBarzhad, 18 février 2010 - 11:16 .

[gulegule]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

But not one of them will be the sword with which I slew the ArchDemon.... that sword aparently never existed...

I expect this will be immediately fixed PC side by a mod, sucks for the console players though.

[Volourn]

"Dragon Age: Origins DLC (from DAO or other prior DLC) is not available in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening as we've already said."



Wow. That's the reason? Because there's more powerful gear in the expansion? Might as well start the character naked then. *shrug*



It's better to just leave the items in, and let the player decide what items to use. This seems like a weak excuse, but k, whatever.

[KigenBarzhad]

Shavon wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Trust me, there are heaps of cool new armors, weapons, spells, etc that you will want to use in Awakening that you will quickly learn to appreciate even more than your DLC items from DAO.

I would trust  this.  I'm sad that Duncans dagger must be left behind, but Chris is trustworthy.

Not become a flamer, a hater, or whatever but I feel this must be said.

How can you blindly trust someone who is making a bad decision? From a game design perspective, this will make the warden naked in some people's cases or severly underwhelmed (needing to scrounge for lets say tier 4 gear.) From a business perspective, this makes DLC less worthwhile. Yes, items are not the total draw, but for some it is. If the items are not comparable to the loot you will get, then there *should not* be an issue to have them come with you. From a flavor point of view, this breaks the 4th wall. What happened to your gear? Was it stolen? Why am I suddenly naked? It is part of the uproar some people felt when they announce the "hand-holding" reviving a dead warden would do.