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I'm still buying it, though I'll be disappointed by the lack of Starfang and other DLC items (though it has simplified my 'filling inventory with items for expansion' rather exponentially). I think the import the dead Warden option is slightly stupid, but as I only got that ending for the achievement and its not really my 'canon ending', I'm not personally bothered. The romances thing is expected, and I consider myself rather lucky as my main romanced Alistair who will be in the game.
I'm interested as to how Oghren plays out. I did like him in the original, but I'll be interested if they take his character in new directions. 'Plays a large part' suggests he'll be more than comic relief.
Never expected Wynne to show, though. I guess she hasn't left for Tevinter with Shale =P



And..being that Wynne through most of the Origins story toward the end, emphasizes that she hasn't much time left.........due to her being supported spirtually and physically I guess by that "good spirit" from the Fade.   Well I just get the idea if Wynne is back..she won't be back for long, and we'll be seeing yet another funeral pyre in the near future.   ........

As for Morrigan,  I was hoping to see or hear things about her, but I suspect for the time being she's going to remain in that Orlesian court, manipulating things from behind the scenes.     Til  DA: Two?

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No Starfang, no Helm of Honnleath, no Warden Commander Armour. Disappointing but not game breaking.



I will still buy it after looking at a couple of reviews or knowing me I will see it on the day it comes out and just get it anyway. Just depends on the price.

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I haven't put in a pre-order but I still intend to get it at some point. Spent a lot on my FF 13 pre-order (got the collector's edition version) so that will be my March game. Kind of bummed out that FF 13 and Awakenings come out at the same time. I will probably get Awakenings when I am Final Fantasied-out. Not discouraged at all about the DLC, romances, Oghren or any of that stuff. I am VERY anxious to see how the Architect has translated into the video game version of Dragon Age.

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I'll almost certainly get Awakenings, even if I buy no other computer game this year. All of my favourite crpgs are rough around the edges in some respect, so I can forgive Bioware for not allowing us to import our dead wardens' choices.

I'm interested as to how Oghren plays out. I did like him in the original, but I'll be interested if they take his character in new directions. 'Plays a large part' suggests he'll be more than comic relief.

Yes. Even though I didn't much care for him in DAO, I think the devs must have plans - otherwise why bother bringing him back at all?

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Colenda wrote...

I'll almost certainly get Awakenings, even if I buy no other computer game this year. All of my favourite crpgs are rough around the edges in some respect, so I can forgive Bioware for not allowing us to import our dead wardens' choices.


Its unforgivable when they said weeks ago that you could. Also unforgivable when yesterday a dev stated that you could still play as your dead warden lol...I mean wtf is happening in that office?

So, so far:

Your choices your dead warden make matter
Then they dont
Then you can still play as your dead warden (ffs people)
No dlc items can be carried over

*waits for the next load of bull to be spouted out about what can and cant happen in awakenings*...

So sorry, its far from forgivable, its a shambolic mess imo, and then they bring back the character that was only small part of DA anyway (if you follow their own suggestions as to where to go first).....so they bring back the last party member you normally recruit, and the one that consistently comes near the bottom in polls...

Shame, shame, shame, think Ill stick with ME2 for now, that Bioware team seem to know what they are doing when it comes to continuity and DLC, same thing unfortunatly can't be said right now for the DA team.

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Maviarab wrote...

Colenda wrote...

I'll almost certainly get Awakenings, even if I buy no other computer game this year. All of my favourite crpgs are rough around the edges in some respect, so I can forgive Bioware for not allowing us to import our dead wardens' choices.


Its unforgivable when they said weeks ago that you could. Also unforgivable when yesterday a dev stated that you could still play as your dead warden lol...I mean wtf is happening in that office?

So, so far:

Your choices your dead warden make matter
Then they dont
Then you can still play as your dead warden (ffs people)
No dlc items can be carried over

*waits for the next load of bull to be spouted out about what can and cant happen in awakenings*...

So sorry, its far from forgivable, its a shambolic mess imo, and then they bring back the character that was only small part of DA anyway (if you follow their own suggestions as to where to go first).....so they bring back the last party member you normally recruit, and the one that consistently comes near the bottom in polls...

Shame, shame, shame, think Ill stick with ME2 for now, that Bioware team seem to know what they are doing when it comes to continuity and DLC, same thing unfortunatly can't be said right now for the DA team.


Agree Mavi..Ohgren wasn't a particularly interesting character for me,   well I guess he'd appeal to the burping, farting fraternity...(my husband belongs to that one ..hehe)

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No Starfang, no Helm of Honnleath, no Warden Commander Armour. Disappointing but not game breaking.

I will still buy it after looking at a couple of reviews or knowing me I will see it on the day it comes out and just get it anyway. Just depends on the price.


Not game breaking no....but how but all this (confirmed btw)

the following items will NOT be available in awkening.



*Blood Dragon Armour Set

*The Edge



*Stone Prinsoner

Blood-Gorged Amulet, an amulet that boosts constitution by huge amount.

Cadash Stompers, a pair of boots that increase hostility.

Cord of Shattered Dreams, a belt that boosts willpower and mental resistance.

Dead Thaig Shanker, a dagger that interrupts spellcasting.

Harvest Festival Ring, a ring for warriors and rogues.

Helm of Honnleath, a useful helm.

Wilhelm's Magus Staff, a staff.



*Wardens Keep

Antique Warden Crossbow, an above average Crossbow.

Asturian's Might, the longsword of the Grey Warden Asturian.

Robes of Avernus, a robe that improves Blood Magic.

Shadow Belt, a belt that reduces hostility.

Starfang (Greatsword), the two-handed greatsword or:

Starfang (Longsword), the longsword.

Warden Commander Armor Set, set of armor once worn by Warden Commmanders.

Warden's Tower Shield, a shield with a low random drop chance identical to Duncan's Shield.

Winter's Breath, a powerful magical staff.



*Return to Ostagar

Cailan's Armor Set, the set of armor once worn by King Cailan Theirin

Cailan's Arms, a set of arms once wielded by King Cailan Theirin, consisting of Cailan's Shield and Maric's Blade

Corrupted Magister's Staff

Duncan's Dagger, a dagger once wielded by Duncan in his off hand

Duncan's Sword, a longsword once wielded by Duncan in his sword hand

Firestone Harness

Joining Chalice

Maric's Blade

Nug Crusher

Repeater Gloves

Swiftrunner Warpaint



look at how many items we will lose just cause bioware can't be bothered to port the DLC items over. sigh its not a small list and most of those items are considered Tier 7 EPIC loot


Stolen for another thread....now is THAT gamebreaking to you?

Because it damn well is for me for what is supposed to be a dlc/expansion and NOT a new game completely.

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It doesn't make sense to charge $40 for an expansion. Most expansions cost around $20, and while they say that it will add 15 more hours to gameplay, I'm sure it will be far less than that unless you really take your time and count each blade of grass. Dlc and expansions are never as long as the developers say they will be.



Not to mention...the main game has so many unresolved issues and bugs, which have yet to be fixed, and it makes little sense to buy the expansion when so many people get an error message when they try to use their codes for blood dragon armor/stone prisoner. Fix these issues, then I will gladly buy the expansion. I'll just be sure to avoid the "ultimate sacrifice" ending, which I was originally planning on doing.

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Nope won't be pre-ordering it until i heard several reviews. No romance and no importing of dlc armor/weapons is game-breaking for me. Yes i know their might be a mod for it thanks to the community but i rather expect that sort of stuff from Bioware themselves. They are cutting corners and i don't like that.

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yes because they are one of the better story(rpg) game designers around

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Maviarab wrote...

Colenda wrote...

I'll almost certainly get Awakenings, even if I buy no other computer game this year. All of my favourite crpgs are rough around the edges in some respect, so I can forgive Bioware for not allowing us to import our dead wardens' choices.


Its unforgivable when they said weeks ago that you could. Also unforgivable when yesterday a dev stated that you could still play as your dead warden lol...I mean wtf is happening in that office?

So, so far:

Your choices your dead warden make matter
Then they dont
Then you can still play as your dead warden (ffs people)
No dlc items can be carried over

*waits for the next load of bull to be spouted out about what can and cant happen in awakenings*...

So sorry, its far from forgivable, its a shambolic mess imo, and then they bring back the character that was only small part of DA anyway (if you follow their own suggestions as to where to go first).....so they bring back the last party member you normally recruit, and the one that consistently comes near the bottom in polls...

Shame, shame, shame, think Ill stick with ME2 for now, that Bioware team seem to know what they are doing when it comes to continuity and DLC, same thing unfortunatly can't be said right now for the DA team.


Ogren doesn't consistently come near the bottom in polls. He tends to have about average popularity, behind the romanced companions but ahead of Wynne and Sten. Bioware aren't going to bring just one romanceable back into the party without bringing back the other three, for fear of the Outraged Fans Being Outraged. Looking at the 'favourite quotes' and 'funniest lines' threads on the forums,  it's pretty obvious that Oghren isn't without a following.

If you compare DAA to previous expansion packs from Black Isle and the BIS diaspora, you'll find that only two, BG:TotSC and BG2:ToB have arguably better continuity from the main game than DAA is likely to have. In the first case, the continuity is good because it just added new areas onto the main campaign. In the second, romances and gear could be imported, but when it was released initially, many people found the process of importing to be badly bugged.  NWN:SoU introduced a completely different player character; NWN2: MotB dropped rocks on the heads of the romanced companions and changed the voice actor for one of just two recurring characters. You can either keep naively high expectations based on taking statements made during development as cast iron promises and then rage when they aren't met, or you can look at the kind of things CRPG developers have produced in the past, with all their flaws and cut material and unrealised plans, and judge based on those whether the games they produce will be worth your time. 

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Hey all!

Probably buying it from Day One of release. None of the FAQ changes affect me in the slightest with regards Awakening.

That said, I would be gutted if I had bought DLC and they didn't let me take in my items. Also if I was one of those gamers who loved the romance side of it, I'd likewise be furious. However, as I said, these things don't bother me.

What these changes have illustrated is that I'll probably never bother getting any Dragon Age DLC.

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I intend to put my pre-order in asap. I have no issues with the expansions and whilst i'm not happy about certain aspects of the game (endgame was a big let-down for me) i still love it and see no reason to skip over what is only more Dragon Age.

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Colenda...



Enough with the smart sacrcastic comments, they don't cut it with me I'm afraid.



As for the some of the games you mentioned, pah, its what I would expect from the likes of those developers, Bioware I expected more from....



*Especially when a dev stated things that a mere few weeks later turn out to be false*




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I'm going to wait and see what the reviews say. At this point I'm still sort of stunned that they are charging $40 for a fifteen hour game with no continuing romances, no new romances, no import of the items we purchased through download and a hand-waved zombie Warden. But at least I'm learning all of this now and have 30+ days to process and get over it. If the reviews are positive, I'll probably wind up buying it. If you see a red-head walking out of a game store carrying a bag and holding her nose....

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Buyin it!

It contains characters like The Arhitect and Utha! I may not be a fan of Oghren, but telling me that he has a major role kinda makes me curious. No romance (oh well, better wait for DA 2), no DLC (better have nice stuff)...i trust Bioware

PS: The Arhitect is so cool in pictures, far from what i have imagined him

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I've got it pre-ordered and I'm not canceling. I am disappointed by the lack of romances, mostly by the fact that there are no new romances.

My original plan was to carry over my characters who were romantically available at the end of Origins, hoping they could romance the new companions. Now I've scrapped that plan and will play the characters who are still involved in relationships instead. I can handle the cameos or whatever involving the old romances, I just feel bad for my characters that got dumped by Morrigan or Alistair.

I'm not at all happy about Oghren being a major player, unless they've sobered him up a bit. My Dad's an alcoholic and the 'let's watch the drunk get incoherent & pass out' is painful to me on a personal level. I don't expect game companies to cater to me, but I don't know how much of Oghren I'll be able to take.

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I don't know what kind of direction that Bioware has been given, unfortunately these changes are going to cause them to lose sales. No sense in whining, no one is forcing us to buy this. If we don't like it, just don't buy it.



I've already cancelled my pre-order.

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I've pre-ordered (and actually paid it already) and have no intention to cancel the order. Why would I? It's going to be a nice addition to Dragon Age saga.

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KneeTheCap wrote...

I've pre-ordered (and actually paid it already) and have no intention to cancel the order. Why would I? It's going to be a nice addition to Dragon Age saga.


That's the spirit, KneeTheCap old buddy, old pal, old friend, old bean!

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Maviarab wrote...

DJ0000 wrote...

No Starfang, no Helm of Honnleath, no Warden Commander Armour. Disappointing but not game breaking.

I will still buy it after looking at a couple of reviews or knowing me I will see it on the day it comes out and just get it anyway. Just depends on the price.


Not game breaking no....but how but all this (confirmed btw)

the following items will NOT be available in awkening.



*Blood Dragon Armour Set

*The Edge



*Stone Prinsoner

Blood-Gorged Amulet, an amulet that boosts constitution by huge amount.

Cadash Stompers, a pair of boots that increase hostility.

Cord of Shattered Dreams, a belt that boosts willpower and mental resistance.

Dead Thaig Shanker, a dagger that interrupts spellcasting.

Harvest Festival Ring, a ring for warriors and rogues.

Helm of Honnleath, a useful helm.

Wilhelm's Magus Staff, a staff.



*Wardens Keep

Antique Warden Crossbow, an above average Crossbow.

Asturian's Might, the longsword of the Grey Warden Asturian.

Robes of Avernus, a robe that improves Blood Magic.

Shadow Belt, a belt that reduces hostility.

Starfang (Greatsword), the two-handed greatsword or:

Starfang (Longsword), the longsword.

Warden Commander Armor Set, set of armor once worn by Warden Commmanders.

Warden's Tower Shield, a shield with a low random drop chance identical to Duncan's Shield.

Winter's Breath, a powerful magical staff.



*Return to Ostagar

Cailan's Armor Set, the set of armor once worn by King Cailan Theirin

Cailan's Arms, a set of arms once wielded by King Cailan Theirin, consisting of Cailan's Shield and Maric's Blade

Corrupted Magister's Staff

Duncan's Dagger, a dagger once wielded by Duncan in his off hand

Duncan's Sword, a longsword once wielded by Duncan in his sword hand

Firestone Harness

Joining Chalice

Maric's Blade

Nug Crusher

Repeater Gloves

Swiftrunner Warpaint



look at how many items we will lose just cause bioware can't be bothered to port the DLC items over. sigh its not a small list and most of those items are considered Tier 7 EPIC loot


Stolen for another thread....now is THAT gamebreaking to you?

Because it damn well is for me for what is supposed to be a dlc/expansion and NOT a new game completely.


Nope, playing on PS3-no RTo.

I can do without the rest if need be, but I'm not one of thse who used only dlc items, I can understand if that's what you did it will certainly be annoying.

For mw those 3 items and potentially Dead Thaig shanker for my rogue are the only ones I would really require.

I'm still excited, my concern is actually price versus length as I can't believe that it will be a bad game.

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I want it simply because it's more Dragon Age. As long as it offers more Dragon Age, I'm going to buy it with a wide smile on my face. I couldn't care less about these extremely minor hindrances :)


I completely agree :)

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I am waiting for a price drop; $40 for an expansion seems a bit too high for me. I don't really care about the romance thing but the DLC items is kind of annoying (though I can use mods to get around it if I really want them). Glad I didn't buy RTO. I wonder how many people bought RTO to use those DLC items in Awakening? They probably should have disclosed the DLC item issue sooner if they wanted to avoid backlash.

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Yes, I am quite looking forward to it. Unlike many that changed minds because of some FAQs. You should rather be grateful for BioWare that told you the truth, rather than not telling anything to anyone and then once you buy it "SURPRISE!"


Smart people fish for info before paying the price of a whole new game for a mere expansion.  If they weren't honest I'd find out anyway.  Any company that manages to rip me off would not see another cent.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.  ;)

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Minor issues are well minor. i didnt buy the game for a damn romance (i have Girlfriend for that) no matter how much flavor they ad to the game and dlc items dont bother me either since you will no doubt be equipping far better stuff in the expansion.



My major problems so far is that in doa you didn't have a real antagonist and was the character development a bit lacking. both these issues seem to be getting addressed ad some interesting chars and a good story and i will no doubt buying this game