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[ArcanistLibram]

I'll most likely wait until a modder puts the DLC items in.

[Curlain]

Yeah with the no romances (either from origins or new ones), the DLC issues and the whole ultimate sacrifice didn't happen (I know you can choose the Orlaisian Warden, but that has a set background and won't recognize any chooses my ultimate sacrifice warden made, it's not really satisfactory to me), I'm loosing interest fast in the expansion. For the moment I've still go it on pre-order but I'm seriously thinking of canceling it and spending the money on something else for now, and then see the reviews of it when it's out, and possibly pick it up when it drops in price.

I guess I'm just having to really think if this expansion meets what I'm looking for in the expansion (and if it doesn't then it's not value of money for me personally, not necessarily others of course who will be looking for other things out of the game)

Modifié par Curlain, 14 février 2010 - 05:36 .

[_Infiltrator]

The more I'm hearing the less inclined I am becoming to get it.

[Rylor Tormtor]

citizenEXTINCT wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I'm most likely not going to buy it. There are too many games coming out this spring, I'll probably pick it up when it goes down in price unless my mind gets radically changed somehow by next month :/

The major factor was apparently the revelation that you can't import the choices of a Dead Warden, if that changes then its definately a maybe, but its still 40 dollars and I could do something else with that money that could be more fulfilling.

You can carry over the choices of a dead warden. Also, that's probably what I'll end up doing. I'll probably just wait until its price goes down.

Are you sure? It seems this has changed.  Your choices, re: New FAQ are: 1) Import character that did Dark Ritual, 2) Import Character that did Ultimate Sacrifice but then is retconned to have survived, 3) Start New Warden with NO carry over of choices from first game.

[Harcken]

I'm probably going to buy it, however, I love downloading multiple mods, and all my characters have a variety of texture, facial, and ability mods... and if those screw up my import I will be super pissed. Why encourage mods in a game, and go to great lengths for a toolset then turn around and recommend no mods are used?

Modifié par Harcken, 14 février 2010 - 06:16 .

[Dethanos]

Rylor Tormtor wrote...

Are you sure? It seems this has changed.  Your choices, re: New FAQ are: 1) Import character that did Dark Ritual, 2) Import Character that did Ultimate Sacrifice but then is retconned to have survived, 3) Start New Warden with NO carry over of choices from first game.

What FAQ are you reading? The one I read mentions option 2, but it makes no mention of whether or not your choices can carry-over with the new warden. You're also forgetting the Redeemer and Warden-Commander endings.

[-Zippi-]

That there are no romance is ok as long as it lives in the background. Not to weird to be away from the love for a while.



The missing gear is horrible though. It is against all RPG-laws!



Will still buy as I am addicted, but would hate to see the fantastic origins be ruined by a expansion made in a hurry.

[Rylor Tormtor]

Dethanos wrote...

Rylor Tormtor wrote...

Are you sure? It seems this has changed.  Your choices, re: New FAQ are: 1) Import character that did Dark Ritual, 2) Import Character that did Ultimate Sacrifice but then is retconned to have survived, 3) Start New Warden with NO carry over of choices from first game.

What FAQ are you reading? The one I read mentions option 2, but it makes no mention of whether or not your choices can carry-over with the new warden. You're also forgetting the Redeemer and Warden-Commander endings.

Here you go: 

2.2 – How do I import my Dragon Age: Origins character into Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? (Back to top)
It's the same process to import characters for each platform.
Players will go to New Game, select Awakening, and then click on
"Import Character". Then players select from a list of available
characters. Players can also choose an advanced option to choose a
specific save game instead of the most recent save game for that
character if they desire.

2.3 – If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? (Back to top)
If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we.

The only two things regarding importing. If they were so specific, you would think they would mention importing your choices with the new Warden.

[Freezingfire]

lisakover wrote...

buying a pre-owned copy eventually I won't have Bioware profit from me after this DLC shambles

Same as above.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Most probably going to buy it.

[knittzu]

Harcken wrote...

I'm probably going to buy it, however, I love downloading multiple mods, and all my characters have a variety of texture, facial, and ability mods... and if those screw up my import I will be super pissed.

Considering that they can't even figure out how to make their OWN mods (the DLC) work with this expansion, Ithe odds that your third-party created ones are going to survive the transition seem remote.  On the bright side, I have no doubt that the modders will update their stuff and have it ready to go in no time flat.

[Kabraxal]

Not buying it at the moment. Until this FAQ it was a day one purcahse, but the DLC issue, disappearing romance, the inability to keep the US ending and continue with the Orlesian in that world, what looks to be a short story, and a 40 dollar price tag... yeah, it isn't worth it.

[TheMadCat]

buying a pre-owned copy eventually I won't have Bioware profit from me after this DLC shambles

Bad news, you purchasing a product or not has no effect of Bioware's profits. The only person you're possibly hurting is the middleman, IE Gamestop, Steam, D2D, EB, ect.

[MEUTRIERE]

I'm going to buy it, but I'm not going to bother with one-day shipping like I usually do. My interest has waned with the released FAQ, but I still want more Dragon Age. So yes, I will buy it, but no, I'm not excited enough to want it sooner.

[MassEffect762]

I'll still get it..........eventually, I'm not in ANY way, shape or form excited about the "expansion" at all.
I have the money and boredom to kill some time.

[Imperator_Romanorum]

I'll probably get it eventually; what I hear about it after it gets released will determine whether "eventually" is sooner or later.

[dan107]

I agree, this is BS. Bioware is getting sloppy lately. First ME2, while an excellent game overall, had an unusual amount of bugs, oddly missing features (helmet toggle?), and some content that felt unpolished and slapped together at the last minute. Nothing crucial, but still uncharacteristic for a Bioware game. Now this stuff with the DLC which really seems like they simply don't have the time to implement it properly more than anything else.



Hopefully this is not the start of a trend of Bio rushing games out a month or two earlier than they should. Most of these things aren't that big a deal, but I've come to expect flawless quality from Bioware. It would be a shame if that changed.

[Hugmejohnny]

I'll wait till reviews and feedback start coming in. Like all bioware games, story comes first for me. If Awakaning has a great story, lots of choices, and replay value then it's everything I want it to be. If it doesn't then I won't get it. That simple.

[click2kill]

Unless Bioware can convince me as to why I should pay $40 for an add-on, I won't get it when it comes out. That doesn't mean I wouldn't buy it in the future when the price drops.

I'm done with DLC though. I won't get scammed by that again.

Modifié par click2kill, 14 février 2010 - 08:10 .

[WilliamShatner]

I've cancelled my pre-order. I might still buy it when it drops in price if the feedback from here is any good though.

[le_cygne]

-No DLC items is disappointing largely from a continuity standpoint. I don't care about ph4t l3wtz, but it's a bit irritating that my trips to DLC locales have retroactively unhappened.



-Oghren's my last choice for a returning companion, but I get it. Yes, I'd rather see a more developed character than one who's mostly comic relief, but I understand his selection for a side story.



-No new or continuing romances is understandable given financial concerns and the relatively short length of the expansion. A bummer, but I get it, and even a few throwaway lines about your preexisting relationship will probably go a long way to alleviate this.



-Current information isn't entirely clear, but if the Ultimate Sacrifice ending is really ignored, or handwaved out of existence... Well, that's just ridiculous. It's particularly stupid given that the Orlesian warden was almost certainly created to deal with this very issue. Ignoring story (and catering to power gamers as a lame workaround) is rather unforgivable, and a "technical issue" that can be resolved by ten multiple choice questions at the beginning of the game is not a technical issue.



I can ignore the first three points (though I too may be done with DLC), but if story options start getting sacrificed, then I probably won't pick it up after all, at least not until it hits the discount rack.

[KnightofPhoenix]

le_cygne wrote...
-Current information isn't entirely clear, but if the Ultimate Sacrifice ending is really ignored, or handwaved out of existence... Well, that's just ridiculous. It's particularly stupid given that the Orlesian warden was almost certainly created to deal with this very issue. Ignoring story (and catering to power gamers as a lame workaround) is rather unforgivable, and a "technical issue" that can be resolved by ten multiple choice questions at the beginning of the game is not a technical issue.

I can ignore the first three points (though I too may be done with DLC), but if story options start getting sacrificed, then I probably won't pick it up after all, at least not until it hits the discount rack.

Indeed. That problem made me raise an eyebrow. There is really no reason at all to play the Orlesian Warden now.

Bioware has to clarify in a concise way what they plan to do with the US ending. I can understand some fools want to ressurect their warden. Let them. But if we can't import the decisions of our dead warden, then that's stupid.

[SirOccam]

I'm still going to buy it for the same reason I bought Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 sight unseen after playing Dragon Age. Though I had heard great things about them, I'm not as into sci-fi as I once was; at least not enough to spend that kind of money.

But Bioware made a fan out of me and I know those games are going to be great, just as I am sure Awakening will be great. Yes, there are disappointments, but there's still room for a great game, and there's always DA2 to hope for. Dragon Age is seriously the best RPG I've ever played, and I've played a lot. In fact this game might have ruined MMORPGs for me, since I know an MMO will never have the kind of personal touch that this game has. I couldn't care less about the adventure part of it; there are hundreds of good adventure games across all genres. It's the personal development and drama that hooked me.

Now that might sound contradictory considering that romances won't feature very much in Awakening and that my favorite characters won't be coming back. But like I said before, I'm going to trust Bioware on this one. I can't *not* play Dragon Age if there's more Dragon Age out there to be had.

No DLC is a bummer too, but that's not why I enjoyed the game to begin with, and it's not like there's not going to be armor just as cool-looking. Besides, as a scout, most armor was rather bland anyway; maybe I'd feel differently if I got to wear some of those cool plate designs.

[citizenEXTINCT]

Rylor Tormtor wrote...

citizenEXTINCT wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I'm most likely not going to buy it. There are too many games coming out this spring, I'll probably pick it up when it goes down in price unless my mind gets radically changed somehow by next month :/

The major factor was apparently the revelation that you can't import the choices of a Dead Warden, if that changes then its definately a maybe, but its still 40 dollars and I could do something else with that money that could be more fulfilling.

You can carry over the choices of a dead warden. Also, that's probably what I'll end up doing. I'll probably just wait until its price goes down.

Are you sure? It seems this has changed.  Your choices, re: New FAQ are: 1) Import character that did Dark Ritual, 2) Import Character that did Ultimate Sacrifice but then is retconned to have survived, 3) Start New Warden with NO carry over of choices from first game.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't mean that the choices could carry over into a new Orlesian Grey Warden but that you can carry over your dead Grey Warden and as such, the choices - minus the ultimate sacrifice. Or that's how I perceived it in the FAQ, at least.

[melkathi]

Considering canceling the pre-order.

If I hadn't pre-ordered I would simply stop following it for now and probably have a look at reviews and comment around summer.