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[Gill Kaiser]

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family. Same thing if Sheppard took up the breading request on the Krogan homeworld LOL.

The thing is though, they will never think that it would enhance the story, because it would fly in the face of their attempt to keep Mass Effect a relatively 'hard' Sci-Fi setting. There is nothing more impossible than two species of opposing chiralities having children. It'd be an order of magnitude more crazy than simply two levo-protein aliens having children, which is pretty much impossible by itself.

[Alanosborn1991]

LoweGear wrote...

While I did get the vibe that Kal'Reegar likes Tali from his casual referrals of her ("Say hi to Tali for me!"... right before he socks a Geth Colossus with a missile), Reegar also seems to respect any decision that Tali might make. Afterall, he didn't object to Tali joining up with Shepard on the Normandy. I think it's more respect than an actual love interest.

Do also note that Tali has been said to have liked Shepard since the beginning: Kelly tells you as much from her observations of Tali. Tali would no doubt go for Shepard first unless she gets dumped (which you are free to do so of course).

Nonetheless, I do believe Kal'Reegar is too much a gentleman to actually try and fight with Shepard for Tali's affections. Both will simply unite as brothers-in-arms and kick Geth ass anyday.

Well said man, love killing that Collosus in time so that Reegar doesnt get hit as he is launching missile after missile at the Geth Collossus.

[Gill Kaiser]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

LoweGear wrote...

While I did get the vibe that Kal'Reegar likes Tali from his casual referrals of her ("Say hi to Tali for me!"... right before he socks a Geth Colossus with a missile), Reegar also seems to respect any decision that Tali might make. Afterall, he didn't object to Tali joining up with Shepard on the Normandy. I think it's more respect than an actual love interest.

Do also note that Tali has been said to have liked Shepard since the beginning: Kelly tells you as much from her observations of Tali. Tali would no doubt go for Shepard first unless she gets dumped (which you are free to do so of course).

Nonetheless, I do believe Kal'Reegar is too much a gentleman to actually try and fight with Shepard for Tali's affections. Both will simply unite as brothers-in-arms and kick Geth ass anyday.

Well said man, love killing that Collosus in time so that Reegar doesnt get hit as he is launching missile after missile at the Geth Collossus.

You let the poor injured bastard fight a Geth Colossus? I always told him to hang back and watch the rear for reinforcements.

[NuclearBuddha]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family. Same thing if Sheppard took up the breading request on the Krogan homeworld LOL.

The thing is though, they will never think that it would enhance the story, because it would fly in the face of their attempt to keep Mass Effect a relatively 'hard' Sci-Fi setting. There is nothing more impossible than two species of opposing chiralities having children. It'd be an order of magnitude more crazy than simply two levo-protein aliens having children, which is pretty much impossible by itself.

I agree with what you're saying about breeding, but really, the "hard" sci-fi of ME is the thinest veneer.  The technology is based on a magic element that allows gravity control, for heaven's sake.

[cocla]

Wait... Kal' Reegar and Veetor come as witnesses to Tali's trial? That never happened in my play-through. My Shep just helped in her defense, chose not to say anything about Tali's father, and they pronounced judgment. Wonder why I never got to see them testify...

Any videos showing them testifying?

[SarEnyaDor]

You have to take the neutral "rally the crowd" option - it is pretty awesome. =D

[Alanosborn1991]

cocla wrote...

Wait... Kal' Reegar and Veetor come as witnesses to Tali's trial? That never happened in my play-through. My Shep just helped in her defense, chose not to say anything about Tali's father, and they pronounced judgment. Wonder why I never got to see them testify...
Any videos showing them testifying?

Just keep Reegar alive and send Veetor with Tali instead of Cerberus.

Then choose the rally the crowd option and watch as everyone stands up to defend Tali lol, saying that if she gets exiled that everyone should be exiled.

Its really better than just watching Shephard speak for Tali too because then Tali gets to see that everyone cares for her.

[Aceattack]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family. Same thing if Sheppard took up the breading request on the Krogan homeworld LOL.

Except that they already outlined some very basics (their DNA doesn't even have the same base componets) which make a "traditional" family impossible.

Say this over and over again "There will be no Tali-Shep babies" until it sinks in.

Is having children essential for long term happiness? That's a completely different and personal question, but the turth of the matter is that after infidelity, children (having them, wanting them, inability to have them) is the biggest cause of marital discord.... and that is when both partners are of the same species, probably similar cultures, and compatible physiology.

Long term love prospects don't look good for Tali and Shep.

Honestly I don't care if the put it in there or not but to say it can't happen is short sighted your talking about a sci-fi the whole point is to make the currently impossible -possible in a state of suspended disbelief. If writers felt it it enhanced the overall all story there is nothing in the world saying they can't put something in. Be it a Garrus on Female Shep or a Tali on Male Shep or a Female Krogan on Male Shep.

[Gill Kaiser]

Aceattack wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family. Same thing if Sheppard took up the breading request on the Krogan homeworld LOL.

Except that they already outlined some very basics (their DNA doesn't even have the same base componets) which make a "traditional" family impossible.

Say this over and over again "There will be no Tali-Shep babies" until it sinks in.

Is having children essential for long term happiness? That's a completely different and personal question, but the turth of the matter is that after infidelity, children (having them, wanting them, inability to have them) is the biggest cause of marital discord.... and that is when both partners are of the same species, probably similar cultures, and compatible physiology.

Long term love prospects don't look good for Tali and Shep.

Honestly I don't care if the put it in there or not but to say it can't happen is short sighted your talking about a sci-fi the whole point is to make the currently impossible -possible in a state of suspended disbelief. If writers felt it it enhanced the overall all story there is nothing in the world saying they can't put something in. Be it a Garrus on Female Shep or a Tali on Male Shep or a Female Krogan on Male Shep.

What you're saying is technically true. I'm just saying that it's not going to happen, as doing it would conflict with their design philosophy for the ME universe thus far.

[SarEnyaDor]

Okay - you are confusing science fantasy with science fiction. They actually are different.

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

They're just close friends.

[NuclearBuddha]

Yeah, I'm surprised how much people want to read into this.  It seemed pretty clear that Kal'Reegar was nothing but profession with his "I'll work on that, ma'am," line.  He seemed like he's married to the Corps, so to speak.

For all we know, he may already have a mate and kid or something.  It would've been a real kick in the nuts if that one log on the Alarei had been from his wife.

[Sailears]

LoweGear wrote...

While I did get the vibe that Kal'Reegar likes Tali from his casual referrals of her ("Say hi to Tali for me!"... right before he socks a Geth Colossus with a missile), Reegar also seems to respect any decision that Tali might make. Afterall, he didn't object to Tali joining up with Shepard on the Normandy. I think it's more respect than an actual love interest.

Do also note that Tali has been said to have liked Shepard since the beginning: Kelly tells you as much from her observations of Tali. Tali would no doubt go for Shepard first unless she gets dumped (which you are free to do so of course).

Nonetheless, I do believe Kal'Reegar is too much a gentleman to actually try and fight with Shepard for Tali's affections. Both will simply unite as brothers-in-arms and kick Geth ass anyday.

Absolutely.

[Saurel]

the relationship seemed more like an older brother looking out for his kid sister if anything.

[Naltair]

Yeah I didn't read much romantic into it.

[flem1]

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family.

Nothing except internal consistency, fundamental principles of biology, and common sense -- all of which they've unfortunately dented to give you your fanservice romance in the first place.

[Azriel86]

LoweGear wrote...

While I did get the vibe that Kal'Reegar likes Tali from his casual referrals of her ("Say hi to Tali for me!"... right before he socks a Geth Colossus with a missile), Reegar also seems to respect any decision that Tali might make. Afterall, he didn't object to Tali joining up with Shepard on the Normandy. I think it's more respect than an actual love interest.

Do also note that Tali has been said to have liked Shepard since the beginning: Kelly tells you as much from her observations of Tali. Tali would no doubt go for Shepard first unless she gets dumped (which you are free to do so of course).

Nonetheless, I do believe Kal'Reegar is too much a gentleman to actually try and fight with Shepard for Tali's affections. Both will simply unite as brothers-in-arms and kick Geth ass anyday.

I agree. It just doesn't feel like Kal'Reegar to become the jelous type all of a sudden. But then again love does make people do crazy things. If he loves her that is. I still think he just respects her immensely.

[Azriel86]

flem1 wrote...

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family.

Nothing except internal consistency, fundamental principles of biology, and common sense -- all of which they've unfortunately dented to give you your fanservice romance in the first place.

Come on. Haven't you ever been with a person that was NOTHING like you? Granted, this is not so much as two different people falling in love as it is a dog and a fish falling love, but most times different people don't work romanticly but sometimes they work because they are the right kind of different.
Although I do want to get to see a happy ending with Tali and Shepard, I also do get the fact that they are VERY different and realisticly they might not end together. Truth hurts sometimes.

[Aceattack]

flem1 wrote...

Aceattack wrote...

Thats the wonderful thing about Science fiction is with talented writers the impossible becomes possible. If the writers thought it would enhance the story there is NOTHING stopping them from putting in that Sheppard and Tali settle down and have a family.

Nothing except internal consistency, fundamental principles of biology, and common sense -- all of which they've unfortunately dented to give you your fanservice romance in the first place.

Asumption wonderful asumptions, so because your arguement is flawed I'm a Tali fanboy LOL wonderful. First let me flat out state I could care less about Tali romance and some of you that are so blinded by you dislike for it fail to see the truth and instead blindly cross your arms like children and say NO that can't happen. This is a game and it is made by game devolpers who's job it is to make a entertaining experiance that will appeal to the masses. If they felt for one moment ANY romance option with cross bread humans to what ever made the story appeal to a broader audiance or some how enhanced the product or the story of said product it would be placed in game. Reguardless or your "fundamental principles of biology" which by the way completely ignore any research since the late 60's into genetic engineering bah its just science any ways. Now I could go on with examples of other Sci-Fi universes that had similiar circumstances in them but I feel I have wasted enough of my time.

[Bootsykk]

I.. don't think so..

Reegar seemed to just hold a lot of respect for her. I doubt that he actually has feelings for her, but I could be wrong.

[MarginalBeast]

I would like it if Reegar and Tali got together in ME3, but ONLY if Shepard didn't romance her.

[Sfox1989]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

It seems through my playthrough keeping him alive was a good choice.

Getting to see him and Veetor take the stage was Epic to show that everyone loves Tali and she has done more for the Migrant Fleet than every Quarian combined.

But do you think going into ME3 with a romanced Tali will get Kal' Reegar upset? Maybe even cause a fight?

If you dont romance Tali I can really see both of them getting together in ME3.

Wait, there is an option to get Veetor and Reegar to help defend Tali in the trial?

[SarEnyaDor]

Wow Aceattack - since when has genetic enginneering let a man and his monkey make babies together?? And humans share 99% of their DNA with chimps - Quarian's have completely different bases, they are dextro-based, you can not combine genetic material that is not compatible on a very base fundemental level.

edited to add-> for the trial take the neutral "rally the crowd" option. If you gave Veetor back to the Quarians and didn't let Reegar kill himself fighting they'll rave about Tali. It is really cool, try it on at least one playthrough.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 14 février 2010 - 07:03 .

[GenericPlayer2]

Ok this is a question of taking romance plot speculation too far. Its Mass Effect, not Jerry Springer in space.

[jimmyjoefro]

I'll crack his mask if he makes any attempts on my Tali.