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If the council hadn't stepped during the war between Humanity and the Turians, what would have happened? In my opinion, humanity would win a few early battles but would overall have lost the war. What does everyone think?

Modifié par Tokala42, 14 février 2010 - 04:57 .


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MobiusTyr

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The turians would of thrown us over a table and pounded our ass into oblivion.

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Humans ultimately would have been decimated, but huge portions of Citadel space would be uninhabitable.

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"You Humans are all racist!"



*Turian Thanix Cannon to the Alliances face*

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MobiusTyr wrote...

The turians would of thrown us over a table and pounded our ass into oblivion.


And we would have loved it... if the old vids were right... *ahem*

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Your assessment is likely. The chances are that there would have been millions of victims on both sides, but humanity would have probably lost because of our smaller military and fleets and lack of preparation, as well as slight technological disadvantage. But because humans are so indomitable in Mass Effect universe, we'd probably have started a series of guerilla conflicts after turian occupation, and eventually reduced entire Earth to rubble, and eventually made it too hostile for the turians to keep hold of.

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I personally think it would have been a some what even fight for a while, but the Turians would win due to more ships, allies and experience. It would be like the Elites vs Humans. XD Sorry but there we go. Im forever doomed.

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We fought with novel tactics, it's what gave us the edge at Shianxi :) Look at it from another perspective, if humans were defeated no Sheperd to rescue them from the reapers

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It wouldn't necessarily have been a cakewalk for the turians. They are a significant military strength, but they aren't exactly bold strategists. As I recall, their chief strategy is to just let dreadnoughts hammer the crap out of each other.



A few cruiser/frigate wolf packs and a carrier with a full compliment of fighters can put a serious downer on a vessel intended for long range heavy bombardment, as we saw when the Destiny Ascension got torn to shreds by swarms of geth frigates.

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Given the Turians have the strongest military force and humanity was just stretching their legs in space it'd probably go like that old joke about Chinese military planning their tactics for upcoming war:



"We'll send in the scout force first, no more than 30-50 million troops..."

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marshalleck wrote...

It wouldn't necessarily have been a cakewalk for the turians. They are a significant military strength, but they aren't exactly bold strategists. As I recall, their chief strategy is to just let dreadnoughts hammer the crap out of each other.

A few cruiser/frigate wolf packs and a carrier with a full compliment of fighters can put a serious downer on a vessel intended for long range heavy bombardment, as we saw when the Destiny Ascension got torn to shreds by swarms of geth frigates.


This is probably the way it would go, even if it was just during the early fights. What's the likelyhood that if Humans did win early battles that they would call in Council Allies e.g. Salarian Aid as with Krogans?

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Humanity would have done what it always does: pulled something out of its ass and won, or at least.. make sure the turians lost too.

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Humans likely would've lost had the war not ended but I tend to think we'd have made the Turians pay dearly for their victory. Neither side really knew what to expect but given the Turians had such limited Intel on humans and somehow thought Shanxi was our homeworld and the few ships they destroyed there was our whole fleet let alone their outdated naval doctrine relying on dreadnoughts where humans had carriers I think we'd have given the Turians a few Taranto's or Pearl Harbor's until they either changed their tactics or just simply overwhelmed us.

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The Turians would have gone 'total war' on our asses and eventually beaten our fleets, then they'd have pulled a 'scorched Earth' on us - literally.

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I... missed that 1 in 314. I'll just be going now.

*cough*

More serious, though: I think the Turians would've won. But I think humanity would've gave them one hell of a fight.

Modifié par Remaix, 14 février 2010 - 05:31 .


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So most likely according to everyone is Turian victory but a hard fought one, with humanity takign down a signifocant portion of the turians in some way. What if they brought in council allies? Asari or Salarians?

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Earth would be a turian colony, and humans a turian client race.

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I have the utmost confidence that humans would have given the Turians so much hell, that the scaley bastards would have been forced to back down in order to minimize their losses. Seeing as the Turians were the main line of defense in Citadel space, losing the majority of their forces could prove devastating to themselves and other Citadel species, so they'd eventually be hard pressed to cease hostilities, either by their own government or those of the Asari and Salarians.

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I am voting that it would have been a pyrrhic victory for the turians. They may back off a hair once they see the resistance at the Arcturis Relay. They break through there it would be all over for the Alliance so some serious hardware would go into it`s defence. Humans would do more damage than you would think from their military size due to the turians not knowing which routes to take at first.

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If you look at past Human wars, and that horrifying tendency we have to create nightmarishly destructive weapons when our ass is on the line, I think that the Humans would have eventually developed their space age version of a nuke, and made the Turian's lives so unpleasant they'd either have to call a truce or bring in their Council allies.



And hope to God that the Humans didn't find the Krogan homeworld. After all, they've got as much reason as anybody to kill the Turians...and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Their scout fleet defeats our colony with nearly no loss of life on either side, sounds like overwhelming force.



We send a full fleet to defeat that force. While turians in return send a fleet of their own.



In my opinion, if council didn't intervene, we would have been their puppy race.

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The end result is hard to guess based on what infor we are given in game. However, the only things the Turians have to offer is their military might. If Humanity was able to inflict sufficient casualties the Turian position in the galaxy would have been severely undercut. After all they were only brought onto the council to act as galatic peacekeepers. If they get mauled by a brand new race their value in that role would have to be re-evaluated.



If the war dragged on long enough I'd give the edge to Humanity. Turians are not known for their adaptability and the races the have fought in the past seem share that same flaw.

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Saivar wrote...

I have the utmost confidence that humans would have given the Turians so much hell, that the scaley bastards would have been forced to back down in order to minimize their losses. Seeing as the Turians were the main line of defense in Citadel space, losing the majority of their forces could prove devastating to themselves and other Citadel species, so they'd eventually be hard pressed to cease hostilities, either by their own government or those of the Asari and Salarians.


This.

The Turians still have the responsibility of patrolling Citadel space, so they can't commit all of their forces to one conflict without opening themselves and others up to pirate/slaver raids or worse.

Also, there are a few races out there that have no love for the council races and might see Humanity as an opportunity for a coup. Potential allies ftw.

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The Humans would have ended up a turian colony pretty damn fast.

Modifié par Lmaoboat, 14 février 2010 - 07:18 .


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Mondo47 wrote...

MobiusTyr wrote...

The turians would of thrown us over a table and pounded our ass into oblivion.


And we would have loved it... if the old vids were right... *ahem*


Just keep the women out of the tinfoil skirts and make sure Flash Gordon is on the lead ship and we'll win!

Anywho, to the topic, we'll probably had another few battles were we'd win, but we'd have lost in the end - the Turians simply had many more ships and troops, and given they had good troops too, their forces were quite effectively against Human troops.