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[NKKKK]

Aleady made a thread, go there.

[melkathi]

Edit: ah why bother...



On topic. I can see why they would allow dead wardens to be alive, for those who only play through a game once and chose the ultimate sacrifice.

It would have been nice and worth a delay though if they could give people the choice to stay dead.

Modifié par melkathi, 14 février 2010 - 05:47 .

[melkathi]

distinguetraces wrote...

melkathi wrote...
On topic. I can see why they would allow dead wardens to be alive, for those who only play through a game once and chose the ultimate sacrifice.

Where are you guys getting this, by the way? Last I saw, the des had said "We're not sure yet" and then gone quiet. Has there been an announcement in the last day that I didn't see?

Awakening FAQ:

2.3 – If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we.


Which implies that you can't just import the decissions

[melkathi]

edit: forum bugged out and double posted.
I was even expecting it and thus didn't click submit a second time. But it still doubleposted. Silly forum

Modifié par melkathi, 14 février 2010 - 06:07 .

[Dethanos]

melkathi wrote...

Awakening FAQ:

2.3 – If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we.


Which implies that you can't just import the decissions

It does? Where?

[NKKKK]

Hand-waiving the story...this isn't bioware

[TrueAlucard]

Dethanos wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Awakening FAQ:

2.3 – If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we.


Which implies that you can't just import the decissions

It does? Where?

 It does not say that the wardens decissions are brought over to the new Warden.  If they wanted to be "Clear" than they would of added, "... or bring over your wardens advantures as a the new Warden." Or at least have a question about this subject on their FAQ.

[Deception_2112]

Not worth delaying release for this...Half the people may have made the sacrifice the other half didn't, why should others have to suffer a delay so the minority can have what they want? Some people are pissed about it, but the majority whilst disappointed can live with it. It's not like the Dead Warden's choices are going to b a major impact, it's just going to affect minor details in Awakenings.

[TrueAlucard]

Deception_2112 wrote...

Not worth delaying release for this...Half the people may have made the sacrifice the other half didn't, why should others have to suffer a delay so the minority can have what they want? Some people are pissed about it, but the majority whilst disappointed can live with it. It's not like the Dead Warden's choices are going to b a major impact, it's just going to affect minor details in Awakenings.

 You do not rush greatness.

[melkathi]

Dethanos wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Awakening FAQ:

2.3 – If my PC died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins how are they alive in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? If a player wants to, they can import their "Dead Warden" into
Awakening and play as them. For the story it's assumed that they didn't
make the ultimate sacrifice, instead somehow survived. A player would
start as the same level with the same gear as their "Dead Warden".
Essentially, if a player doesn't have a problem hand-waiving the story
in this regard - neither do we.


Which implies that you can't just import the decissions

It does? Where?

What it says is that if you import a dead character, they come alive, have not performed the Ultimate Sacrifice and you play as them.
This implies that you cannot import the decissions to an orlesian warden since then they would say: import a dead warden and choose to either play as them or keep the decissions for your orlesian warden.

What they have told us so far is that you will launch the game, select New Game- choose origins or awakening and, once you have selected awakening you'll be given the option to import a character.
They havent clearly said it, but reading the points 1.4 and 2.2 suggests very strongly that the game will present you with two buttons to click "Create New Character" and "Import Origins Character"

Modifié par melkathi, 14 février 2010 - 06:28 .

[Dethanos]

TrueAlucard wrote...

 It does not say that the wardens decissions are brought over to the new Warden.  If they wanted to be "Clear" than they would of added, "... or bring over your wardens advantures as a the new Warden." Or at least have a question about this subject on their FAQ.

The FAQ barely mentions the new warden at all. It is unclear, I'll give you that. I just don't think there is enough there to conclude that you can't import the Ultimate Sacrifice storyline with a new warden.

People keep claiming that "It has been confirmed..", but if all they're going on is the FAQ, I think they're reading way too much into it.

Modifié par Dethanos, 14 février 2010 - 06:29 .

[Adanu]

distinguetraces wrote...

I'm already disappointed that romaces won't continue because the voice actors were deemed too expensive.

Where did you get this, or are you just talking out your ass?

[melkathi]

Deception_2112 wrote...

Not worth delaying release for this...Half the people may have made the sacrifice the other half didn't, why should others have to suffer a delay so the minority can have what they want? Some people are pissed about it, but the majority whilst disappointed can live with it. It's not like the Dead Warden's choices are going to b a major impact, it's just going to affect minor details in Awakenings.

You should edit your post. Saying half and half does not allow for one of the two groups to subsequently be called a minority...

[Harcken]

distinguetraces wrote...
I'm already disappointed that romaces won't continue because the voice actors were deemed too expensive.

Where did you get this from? If that's true.... wow...

[NKKKK]

Dethanos wrote...

TrueAlucard wrote...

 It does not say that the wardens decissions are brought over to the new Warden.  If they wanted to be "Clear" than they would of added, "... or bring over your wardens advantures as a the new Warden." Or at least have a question about this subject on their FAQ.

The FAQ never mentions the new warden at all. It is unclear, I'll give you that. I just don't think there is enough there to conclude that you can't import the Ultimate Sacrifice storyline with a new warden.

People keep claiming that "It has been confirmed..", but if all they're going on is the FAQ, I think they're reading way too much into it.

It's looking that way, devs should clear this, but we know they're gonna stay quiet.

[TrueAlucard]

Dethanos wrote...

TrueAlucard wrote...

 It does not say that the wardens decissions are brought over to the new Warden.  If they wanted to be "Clear" than they would of added, "... or bring over your wardens advantures as a the new Warden." Or at least have a question about this subject on their FAQ.

The FAQ never mentions the new warden at all. It is unclear, I'll give you that. I just don't think there is enough there to conclude that you can't import the Ultimate Sacrifice storyline with a new warden.

People keep claiming that "It has been confirmed..", but if all they're going on is the FAQ, I think they're reading way too much into it.

 It's not comfirmed. Let THAT be clear on everyone. Everyone is just paranoid for good reason. Which is why I am not expecting much.

[melkathi]

Adanu wrote...

distinguetraces wrote...

I'm already disappointed that romaces won't continue because the voice actors were deemed too expensive.

Where did you get this, or are you just talking out your ass?

Devs have time and time again explained that the cost of hiring and re-hiring voice actors severly limits what can be done in new content.
I don't know if they have said it for Awakening specificly, but they have said it often enough in general.
Unless you are wondering about the romances, then I'd suggest reading the forum and FAQ.

[Deception_2112]

melkathi wrote...

Deception_2112 wrote...

Not worth delaying release for this...Half the people may have made the sacrifice the other half didn't, why should others have to suffer a delay so the minority can have what they want? Some people are pissed about it, but the majority whilst disappointed can live with it. It's not like the Dead Warden's choices are going to b a major impact, it's just going to affect minor details in Awakenings.

You should edit your post. Saying half and half does not allow for one of the two groups to subsequently be called a minority...

Actually what i'm trying to say is of the half people who made that sacrifice not all of them are whinging about not being able to import the decisions of their dead warden...

There have been a few people who are going to the extremes, most of them are disappointed but they can deal with it. Guys like this OP just want to delay the release so they can have what they want...

[melkathi]

Deception_2112 wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Deception_2112 wrote...

Not worth delaying release for this...Half the people may have made the sacrifice the other half didn't, why should others have to suffer a delay so the minority can have what they want? Some people are pissed about it, but the majority whilst disappointed can live with it. It's not like the Dead Warden's choices are going to b a major impact, it's just going to affect minor details in Awakenings.

You should edit your post. Saying half and half does not allow for one of the two groups to subsequently be called a minority...

Actually what i'm trying to say is of the half people who made that sacrifice not all of them are whinging about not being able to import the decisions of their dead warden...

There have been a few people who are going to the extremes, most of them are disappointed but they can deal with it. Guys like this OP just want to delay the release so they can have what they want...

Aaah! Now i can see your point.

[flem1]

And yet they're jacking up the price here in the US.