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Don't Install the toolset if you are running Windows XP Service Pack 2 or lower


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#51
Shreav

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Man...I should have checked this earlier...

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Windshadow99

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I am running Service pack 3 and the toolset installer chokes about 1/3 of the way into installing the SQL2005



Oh the joy of Microsoft operating systems

#53
Selvec_Darkon

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To be honest, you shouldn't have installed the game if you have SP2 or lower. The min requirements for DA:O are Windows XP SP3.

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Selvec_Darkon wrote...

To be honest, you shouldn't have installed the game if you have SP2 or lower. The min requirements for DA:O are Windows XP SP3.

Why the game runs fine on SP2?

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Cheiron the Centaur wrote...

DarwinBC wrote...
Microsoft doesn't have that file on thier site any more. DO you know of a place to download it?


Follow the Microsoft link I posted above, select the SP3 line and fill in your email address. MS will mail you a link where you can download the hotfix (as stated, the SP3 hotfix is exactly the same as the SP2 hotfix).

[Edit] or you can download it right here...
  (hope this is allowed; if not, just someone let me know and I'll remove it again)


Yeah I didn't see your second post until after. Thanks for the link mate!

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I landed myself in the SQL reboot mess as well. Strange thing is the suggested fix's didnt work and neither did re-installing XP, I brought it to a repair shop and they said the HD was gone. Think the SQL problem did in my HD or just a strangely timed coincidence?

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If you have SP2. When you start your computer, press F8 and chose safe mode. Then after your Windows start, just press start and chose run.

Type msconfig and hit enter. Chose Services and uncheck SQL Server bla bla bla...

Your Windows should return to normal but still you cant use toolset.

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Cheiron the Centaur

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cocla wrote...

I landed myself in the SQL reboot mess as well. Strange thing is the suggested fix's didnt work and neither did re-installing XP, I brought it to a repair shop and they said the HD was gone. Think the SQL problem did in my HD or just a strangely timed coincidence?


Repeatedly rebooting should not destroy your harddisk, so my guess is that it was already on the edge of breaking down, and the added activity was just the final straw.

I am curious about your remark that "the suggested fixes didn't work", though... did you install the hotfix that I referred to? If you did and that didn't fix the rebooting, then I would definitely like to know.

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Cheiron the Centaur wrote...

Repeatedly rebooting should not destroy your harddisk, so my guess is that it was already on the edge of breaking down, and the added activity was just the final straw.

I am curious about your remark that "the suggested fixes didn't work", though... did you install the hotfix that I referred to? If you did and that didn't fix the rebooting, then I would definitely like to know.



No I didnt get to try your hotfix, comp went 'funny' before that.  Tried the uninstall methods for removing the SQL, after that I couldnt get past the loading screen, then tried re-installing windows again with no luck.

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Cheiron the Centaur

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Ah ok, thanks for the update.

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Has anyone had this problem? I installed the toolset on my XP sevpk3 and it removed all of my video drivers(I have nvidia SLI mode). WTF! Are they checking this stuff before they put it out?

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I've had no trouble with installing or using the toolset so far. And I'm running XP with SP2.

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I have a question about this. I'm running Windows XP 64-bit, where SP3 is not available. Am I totally unable to use the toolset?

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Cheiron the Centaur, thanx a lot!



With the hotix you have recommended I am running toolset on XP SP2 without any problems (so far).



Can somebody explain me in plane words for what a hell we need SQL Server 2005? How many players/modders are profiting from this feature? I do not think that these numbers can be compared with those who have problems caused by it.

What is Ok for the developers’ team does not be obligatory transferred to the modding community.

Is it possible to have two variants: one (with SQL Server 2005) for team workers, and another for stupid individuals (without it)?

BioWare plans to create a check/block for SP2 users in the coming toolset patch are not encouraging.

I have serious legal reasons not to install SP3. At the moment game and toolset are running, for what than.


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I have mw xp version 2002 sp 3 running on an Amd Phenom 9550 Quad-Core 2.20, 3.50 RAM, with a GeForce 9600 gt .......so will the toolset work fine for me?

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Cheiron the Centaur

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@Ulbrecht: the problem described in this thread does not occur in XP SP3, so yes, you should be fine.

@bejamus: sorry, I have no idea if this problem occurs in the 64-bit version of XP. What version of Sxs.dll do you have on your system?

@A1x2e3l: glad to hear it worked for you too. And the game itself does not require SQL Server, the toolset does. You cannot use the toolset without it.

Modifié par Cheiron the Centaur, 19 novembre 2009 - 10:53 .


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Wil SilverHeart

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Hey All,



I DL'd the toolset to and had my problems but I'm back after a fresh install of XP, I think I'll finish DA:O and MOW and then think about getting the toolset again.



However, while searching for an answer to my previous problem I found this if anybody is intertested.





" The issue with the rebooting after installing on AMD based systems is OEM deploys their images from an Intel platform to the AMD based system too. The culprit file is "intelppm.sys" it's a file used for intel systems.



If you installed it and can get into safemode, then go

to HKEY_Local_Machine>system>Current Control Set>Services

Find intelppm and change the value from a 1 to a 4.



If you have not install SP3 yet on your AMD based system do that registry change first to prevent the issue ".



Not sure if it will help anyone but I foud it and thought I put it on here for others.



Cheers!





I


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alkemi wrote...

Wish I would have noticed this thread earlier :P I did, however, manage to get it out of the endless loop by hitting F8 and going to 'last known good config', haven't done anything else with it yet. Seems like an awful lot of trouble though.


Ditto, glad to find out what the issue was.

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I don't see why in the next patch they want to prevent the game from running on SP2. It runs just fine on SP2 when using "SQL Server Express 2005 with Advanced Services." If you install that on XP SP2 it runs just fine.

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Eidolonn wrote...


I know it was unclear, since they spelled it out in plain English, but the problem was with SQL 2005, not the toolset.


Perhaps so but what Mod tool in recient history has even used SQL. To my account there has been none!! And what reason could Bioware have for tying their modding tool to such an old piece of software as SQL 2005 since SQL 2008 has been available for a while now. If a company is going to tie their software to other support software they should at least make sure it does not cause serious system problems for the user.

At least there were threads on how to fix this disaster should the reboot bug it happen. I'd like to see the updated toolset support SP2 users a little more completely than previously

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Shade692004 wrote...

How do I update my windows from sp2 to sp3? I ran windows update but I don't see anything regarding sp3.


Sorry you guys have been having problems on Windows XP SP2, Bioware stated the system requirements on their website http://dragonage.bioware.com/game/ and on the box and mentioned that it requires Windows XP with SP3.  Microsoft always makes "constant improvements" to their Windows (yes, bit of sarcasm there lol) and versions usually aren't backwards compatible as we've seen.  So, I'd say it's more of an issue of keeping up with Microsoft than Bioware's fault.

Here's the link from Microsoft's site givine Windows XP SP update information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389


From Microsoft's site: 

"Download the latest Windows XP service pack from the Microsoft Download Center

If you have problems obtaining the service pack from Windows Update, you
can download the stand-alone update package from the Download Center.
This page will say that this installation package is intended for IT
professionals and developers. However, you can safely download this
file."

..and here's the direct download for Windows XP SP3:
http://www.microsoft...&displaylang=en

Hope this helps, happy gaming/building. :)

Modifié par Whataload, 26 novembre 2009 - 05:51 .


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Wil SilverHeart

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Hey WL,

 Just a word of warning to all that are thinking about getting SP3, here are my specs,

 Windows XP SP3,  Pent 4,  2.5 GB Ram, 1650 Pro PCI-e 512 MB, SB Audigy2 ZS,  stock case and cooling, I haven't noticed my card temp over 65-70 sense I owned it. Not a Crysis machine by any means but I have had this setup for 5+ years now and have never had a major problem, and my gaming experiences have been GREAT! In how they play and how they look, I play at 1920X1200 all the time, 24 inch Acer P243W. 

 I was/am fully updated OS,  and everything else that I can think of. I shut my security off during installs and I have no other apps running in the back ground that may cause any problems. I also maintain my computer on a regular basis ever sense I owned my machine. A weekly auto scan with Norton 2009 and with my other scans which I run myself.

 I say " was "  previously, because I DL'ed the TS and it wouldn't work for me, I wasen't too disappointed as I knew this was a new game so I un-installed it using all the default suggestions and then I started getting SQL library errors. I didn't have the patience too trouble shoot so I just re-formatted and now evrything is back to the was it was before the dreaded Toolset ( No Insult Intended )

 So it would seem that I am meeting the requirments for the TS so why did I have problems????? Just going to wait for more updates for the TS, as I don't what to have to re-format everytime I try to DL it.

 Cheers!

 Wil SilverHeart

Modifié par Wil SilverHeart, 26 novembre 2009 - 05:09 .


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Wil SilverHeart wrote...



 So it would seem that I am meeting the requirments for the TS so why did I have problems????? Just going to wait for more updates for the TS, as I don't what to have to re-format everytime I try to DL it.

 Cheers!

 Wil SilverHeart


It just sounds like aweful toolset programming on the part of the developers, perhaps when they fix all the gamebreaking bugs, install errors and SQL errors this application has then it may be worth a revisit but as a hardcore modder I really do not feel like dealing with install problems, game breaking errors and SQL crap!!

Modifié par drkl0rd2000, 26 novembre 2009 - 05:38 .


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Tunime de lockcher

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Sorry for my question but im french and im not speak very well english.

I have downloaded toolset for this game. I have all update for my autentic windows XP but when i launch this he tell me "Installer integrity has failed" but i have redowloaded many times and he say extactli this word but i cant understand .

Can you have any answerd for my :).



(en francais au cas ou)

excusez moi pour ma question mais je suis francais et je ne parle pas tres bien anglais.

J'ai telecharger le toolset pour ce jeu. j'ai toutes les mises a jours pour mon autentique windows XP mais quand je le lance il me dit "Installer integrity has failed" mais je la'i retelecharger plusieurs fois et il me dit toujours la meme chose, je ne comprend pas.

Merci si vous avez une reponse a me donner ;)

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Basically the message you get means the download failed at some point.
I suppose you actually got the Toolset installer from the official page. I had a few reports of people being unable to properly download from DA social website (heard of "corrupted" packages and such) so maybe that what happens with your toolset DL. In any case, you may want to try a few things on your side :
  • Make sure you "save as" (and not directly "open" or "execute") the file and launch it from wherever it was downloaded.
  • Turn off any download manager, accelerators, stuff
  • Eventually try with another browser, especially if you're using a recent beta release or something alike-ish
If none of that works, well, I'm out of other ideas.


* switches her Orlesian mode on *


En gros le message sous-entend que ton téléchargement a foiré et que le fichier est resté incomplet sur ta machine. Je suppose que tu as tenté de télécharger le toolset depuis le site officiel. J'ai eu quelques retours de personnes ne parvenant pas à télécharger depuis le site social@bioware (histoires de packets "corrompus" etc) donc c'est peut-être ce qui t'arrive. Dans tous les cas, tu peux toujours essayer quelques trucs de ton côté :
  • T'assurer de bien "enregistrer (la cible) sous" (et non pas directement "ouvrir" ou "exécuter") puis de lancer manuellement l'exécutable une fois le téléchargement terminé.
  • Désactiver tout gestionnaire de téléchargements, accélérateurs, et autres machins du même genre.
  • Essayer avec un autre navigateur, surtout si tu utilises généralement une version récente du tiens.
Si rien de tout cela marche, j'peux pas dire avoir d'autres idées.

(ma la boite à MP reste ouverte en cas, histoire de pas spammer en frenchy par ici... >.>)

Modifié par Phaenan, 08 décembre 2009 - 05:58 .