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[enigma1337]

The Illusive Man will join your party.



He won't come with any armor, shields, biotics, tech, weapons or weapons training, but he will have two unique abilities: Smoke, and Look Cryptic.



Smoke causes him to light up a cigarette, decreasing his health bar, and lengthening the cooldown time for any allies within a certain radius of him.



Look Cryptic is a passive ability that provides a penalty to your squad's damage and shield strength.



There will be an achievement for completing a playthrough on Insanity with the Illusive Man always in your party.

[ArikadOdakirA]

Just my speculation here. Obviously, everyone's game could be different. Loyalty, who you sided with during conflicts, and potential deaths could change everything.

Garrus will be back. He's done with the red tape on the Citadel and his squad from Omega is dead. The only reason he MIGHT leave Shepard's squad is because he wants to reapply for Spectre candidacy. I imagine he'll want to stick with Shepard after taking down Saren and then the Collectors to finish the job against the Reapers. Plus he's a fan favorite.

Tali will be back because, regardless of love interest or not, she's grown attached to Shepard, just like Liara did. Same thing as Garrus, too... she may want to stick with him until the end and fight the Reapers. Plus, she's right in the thick of the potential Quarian and Geth war, which could be a big subplot in ME3. She's a fan favorite, too.

I imagine Jacob and Miranda will be back. I know Miranda pledges her loyalty to Shepard during the suicide mission when The Illusive Man's message comes through, asking to keep the base intact. I imagine Jacob says something similar.

If Shepard is Grunt's battlemaster now, he'll probably be back. Since all he wants to do is fight, I can imagine he'll want to stick around after stopping the Collectors in order to get a shot against the Reapers.

Mordin could come back, but I would imagine he'll be a support character because of his age. Either way, not having him in the next game in some form would be a crime since he's awesome.

Thane could come back if he isn't dead from Kepral's Syndrome yet. He may still be out to atone for his sins, but then again, he may want to spend his final days with Kolyat.

I think Jack is gone, but maybe she'll stick around if she wound up being a paragon Shepard's love interest. Otherwise, she's been busted out of prison and has nothing tying her down anymore.

Samara could be different for paragon and renegade Shepards. She mentioned she would come to paragon Shepard's aid if she was called for, but she also mentions she has grounds for killing Shepard if he's/she's a renegade. It would be cool to see a mission where you either recruit her or kill her depending on your alignment. I doubt Morinth will stick around if she's on the squad, since all she wants to do is bang and kill.

Zaeed's gone since he was just a gun for hire. I imagine you'll hear about some of his adventures in ME3, though.

Legion is too important, even if he dies. The non-heretic Geth have at least had some contact with Shepard now. With how you handle Legion's loyalty mission, along with Tali's, it could shape out what kind of support Shepard is going to have in ME3, be it Quarian, Geth, or both.

I'd love to see Wrex back from ME1, but I doubt that's going to happen since he's got his hands full on Tuchanka.

I can see Liara also making a return as a squadmate to deal with the Shadow Broker. Plus, we've gotta have that romantic interest drama in ME3 to look forward to, which means that Ashley/Kaiden could be back, too.

I really hope we can assemble a sort of "dream team" in ME3. It wouldn't make sense to develop all of these characters and then just cast them aside for a brand new squad in ME3. Not saying that I don't want any new characters in the next game, but I want to feel rewarded for keeping my team alive.

[Clayton the Stomp]

I am hoping that Garrus, Legion, Jack, Mordin, and Thane stick around.



Thane and Legion are two of my favorites, and Mordin is just awesome.

[Malckeor]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

Considering it is possible to kill your entire crew minus Joker, I'd wager its possible to go into ME3 with absolutely none of the ME2 cast returning except Shepard.

My speculation does open up a whole new can of worms though. If your entire crew can die, wouldn't that mean that the current cast, assuming they survived in your playthrough, would all just be cameos in ME3? If the cast returns as playable squadmates, wouldn't Bioware have to include a completely new cast with their own missions and the old cast plus their missions as well? Four disk game anyone?

absolutely none? That doesn't make sense. Shepard dies if every crew member dies during the Suicide MIssion. I say in ME3, they don't add any new crew members, and just have every crew member that survived from the previous two games as squad members. Tali will help get the Migrant Fleet on your side, Wrex/Grunt will help to get the Urdnot clan on your side, and Legion will help to get all of the geth on your side. A huge armada to face the Reapers..... ME3 will be amazing.

Modifié par Malckeor, 15 février 2010 - 04:07 .

[Fishy]

I don't want to create a new thread for this . But they should do this for mass effect 3 ..

Dead space.



i have nothing more to add



Well actually yes for people who never played DS ...

GRAVITY.

Mission in the great emptyness of space.



Add this to mass effect 3.

[Malckeor]

Suprez30 wrote...

Well actually yes for people who never played DS ...
GRAVITY.
Mission in the great emptyness of space.

Add this to mass effect 3.

Honestly, when I was on the Normandy at the beginning of the game running to Joker, at that one part where you were in the vacuum of space, I thought that it was going to be some environment for the game later in the plot....... unfortunately I was wrong.

[stillnotking]

Malckeor wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

Considering it is possible to kill your entire crew minus Joker, I'd wager its possible to go into ME3 with absolutely none of the ME2 cast returning except Shepard.

My speculation does open up a whole new can of worms though. If your entire crew can die, wouldn't that mean that the current cast, assuming they survived in your playthrough, would all just be cameos in ME3? If the cast returns as playable squadmates, wouldn't Bioware have to include a completely new cast with their own missions and the old cast plus their missions as well? Four disk game anyone?

absolutely none? That doesn't make sense. There's so many new crew members. I say in ME3, they don't add any new crew members, and just have every crew member that survived from the previous two games as squad members. Tali will help get the Migrant Fleet on your side, Wrex/Grunt will help to get the Urdnot clan on your side, and Legion will help to get all of the geth on your side. A huge armada to face the Reapers..... ME3 will be amazing.

You didn't respond to his point though.  Given that some non-trivial number of ME2 players will have any given squad member dead in their ME3 import game, it's unlikely that BioWare is going to devote disk space, development time, and voice acting budget to a main character that some people will never see.  Having a character on Shepard's squad means devoting a lot of resources to them.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if none of the ME2 squad members join up in ME3.  (They will certainly be in the game, but with cameo appearances like Wrex's in ME2.)

On the other hand, a lot of fans will be really upset if their favorites don't make the cut.  BW has kind of painted themselves into a corner on this one and it will be interesting to see how they resolve it.

Liara is the only former squaddie who is guaranteed to be alive in ME3.  If I had to bet on one returning squadmate, it would probably be her.

Modifié par stillnotking, 15 février 2010 - 04:08 .

[Malckeor]

stillnotking wrote...

Malckeor wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

Considering it is possible to kill your entire crew minus Joker, I'd wager its possible to go into ME3 with absolutely none of the ME2 cast returning except Shepard.

My speculation does open up a whole new can of worms though. If your entire crew can die, wouldn't that mean that the current cast, assuming they survived in your playthrough, would all just be cameos in ME3? If the cast returns as playable squadmates, wouldn't Bioware have to include a completely new cast with their own missions and the old cast plus their missions as well? Four disk game anyone?

absolutely none? That doesn't make sense. There's so many new crew members. I say in ME3, they don't add any new crew members, and just have every crew member that survived from the previous two games as squad members. Tali will help get the Migrant Fleet on your side, Wrex/Grunt will help to get the Urdnot clan on your side, and Legion will help to get all of the geth on your side. A huge armada to face the Reapers..... ME3 will be amazing.

You didn't respond to his point though.  Given that some non-trivial number of ME2 players will have any given squad member dead in their ME3 import game, it's unlikely that BioWare is going to devote disk space, development time, and voice acting budget to a main character that some people will never see.  Having a character on Shepard's squad means devoting a lot of resources to them.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if none of the ME2 squad members join up in ME3.  (They will certainly be in the game, but with cameo appearances like Wrex's in ME2.)

On the other hand, a lot of fans will be really upset if their favorites don't make the cut.  BW has kind of painted themselves into a corner on this one and it will be interesting to see how they resolve it.

Liara is the only former squaddie who is guaranteed to be alive in ME3.  If I had to bet on one returning squadmate, it would probably be her.

well, like I said earlier, if every squad member dies, then Shepard himself will die too (due to no one helping Joker pull him up into the Normandy). Bioware has stated not to let this happen because in ME3 you would otherwise have to make a whole new Shepard. It really makes it seem that the characters' deaths are non-canon.

[SurfaceBeneath]

Malckeor wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Everyone is returning.

How can you be sure? I doubt Thane will. Kepral's Syndrome... remember?

He has a year left. ME3 will continue right where ME2 leaves off.

ME1 and 2 were all about building up ME3. Everyone who's played a role so far and survived up to this point will be a major player for ME3. How do I know this? Because I'm psychic (and Bioware has essentially said so themselves).

[Annihilator27]

It would be cool to have everyone back for the final fight, But i would like the return of Wrex and Legion.

[KroganPants]

Conrad Verner. Newest squad member.

[stillnotking]

Malckeor wrote...
well, like I said earlier, if every squad member dies, then Shepard himself will die too (due to no one helping Joker pull him up into the Normandy). Bioware has stated not to let this happen because in ME3 you would otherwise have to make a whole new Shepard. It really makes it seem that the characters' deaths are non-canon.

No... the problem isn't that some players will have every squad member dead, it's that a lot of players will have any given squad member dead.  What makes more sense from a design perspective: putting a squadmate in ME3 that 100% of players will have, or a squadmate that only 80% of players will have?

[Clayton the Stomp]

KroganPants wrote...

Conrad Verner. Newest squad member.

This.  Right.  Here.

[Annihilator27]

Clayton the Stomp wrote...

KroganPants wrote...

Conrad Verner. Newest squad member.

This.  Right.  Here.

No, Its gotta be Blasto lol.

[Malckeor]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Malckeor wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Everyone is returning.

How can you be sure? I doubt Thane will. Kepral's Syndrome... remember?

He has a year left. ME3 will continue right where ME2 leaves off.

ME1 and 2 were all about building up ME3. Everyone who's played a role so far and survived up to this point will be a major player for ME3. How do I know this? Because I'm psychic (and Bioware has essentially said so themselves).

Well I hope BioWare doesn't change their minds then.

[PiercedMonk]

Malckeor wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

As a squadmembers? None of them. Any of the 'ME 2' characters can die during the suicide run, so, logistically, it doesn't make sense for them to play anything other than NPC roles in 'ME 3', just like Wrex, Ashley and Kaidan.

Which isn't to say they can't have important roles in 'ME 3' if they do surivive. Just, it will, at best, be important NPC roles.

There's a middling to good chance of Liara being a squadmate, though.

Actually, if all of your squadmates die during the suicide mission, then Shepard dies too. Bioware has said that if this happens, the player will make a whole new Shepard in ME3. I would say that the "everyone dies" ending is non-canon.

Yes, though that's not what I meant.

Every one of the characters can die. I'm not saying that someone is going to survive with all the characters dead, but rather that some people could very well transfer a save with a bunch of dead characters. For example, let's say that I don't really care for Thane, find Samara creepy and dislike both their loyalty missions, there's no way my Shepard is actually going to activate a geth on his ship, and Zaeed isn't even going to get the oppertunity to set foot onboard. So at the end of the sucide mission, I am, for all intents and purposes down four characters.

Now, take someone who has completely differant taste from mine. They really don't like Jack, so skip her loyalty mission, and actually think it would be a good idea to let Jacob crawl up the vent, so he dies. And Mordin bites it as well, 'cause they put Grunt in charge of team two.

Sure, a lot of people are probably going to transfer over a "perfect" save, but BioWare can't rely upon that. Some people are going to be transfering games where they had characters die, and the developers need to account for such. Now, they could have everyone who survives be squadmembers, and make a "secondary" squad to fill in the blanks, as it were, but that doesn't make any sense for a resource point of view. You'd need new models, new animation, new voice actors, all of which take time and money, and there's a finite amount of both available for the production of a game. It simply makes more sense for all the characters who could be dead--which is all the 'ME 2' squadmates--to have small, cameo roles, and have an entirely new squad.

So, Liara is most likely the only one with a chance of returning to 'ME 3' as a squadmate. I think a lot of people are going to be dissapointed a few years down the road because they've deluded themselves into thinking otherwise.

[facialstrokage]

This is somewhat of an outstretched idea. But I can see Bioware potentially having everyone back, ME1 and ME2, plus new characters from ME3. The catch is, though, you only get to choose a limited number of them. So let's say you have a pool of 20 or so characters, and you only get 10. That would be really cool. However, that would be a LOT of voice acting on Bioware's part. But considering how much more work they put into ME2 from ME1, I wouldn't be surprised if they did something astounding like that in ME3.

[petipas1414]

I'd like to believe that Bioware people actually read these boards they can't just ignore our feedback. You can say "Zomg EA wah wah" but Bioware won't abandon us. I'm sure that every character will be back.



A. Liara, Ash/Kaidan will DEFINETELY alive in ME3.

B. At the end, you see your whole crew gearing up.

C. I doubt that Bioware would just say "well, you kept this person alive to help against the Reaperz **** you "

[goatman42]

The one thing about Tali is that if you submit the evidence to the quarian's about her father being a traitor, she down right hates you for the rest of the game. if you went down that path I don't see Tali wanting to stay with you. I do hope she is a squad member though (one of my favorite characters).

[ShadyKat]

goatman42 wrote...

The one thing about Tali is that if you submit the evidence to the quarian's about her father being a traitor, she down right hates you for the rest of the game. if you went down that path I don't see Tali wanting to stay with you. I do hope she is a squad member though (one of my favorite characters).

True, but she also knows the Reapers are a threat to all organic life. So even if she hates you, I ould see her staying.

[Malckeor]

facialstrokage wrote...

This is somewhat of an outstretched idea. But I can see Bioware potentially having everyone back, ME1 and ME2, plus new characters from ME3. The catch is, though, you only get to choose a limited number of them. So let's say you have a pool of 20 or so characters, and you only get 10. That would be really cool. However, that would be a LOT of voice acting on Bioware's part. But considering how much more work they put into ME2 from ME1, I wouldn't be surprised if they did something astounding like that in ME3.

It may be outstretched, but it's bound to happen, considering 95% of the fanbase wants everyone back.

[Malckeor]

bump

[royceclemens]

If you ask me (and I know no one did), my theory is that every single potential love interest male or female love (including Kelly) wil be squad mates and absolutely no one else, save for two or three newbies we haven't met yet.



Because they're the only ones who don't have anything plausible to do after the events of ME2, What with Grunt joining Urdnot, Legion assimilating back into the Geth, etc. And yes, I am including Tali in ths assessment,as there's no way she's getting on the Admiralty Board. But that's another theory for another thread.

[Malckeor]

royceclemens wrote...

If you ask me (and I know no one did), my theory is that every single potential love interest male or female love (including Kelly) wil be squad mates and absolutely no one else, save for two or three newbies we haven't met yet.

Because they're the only ones who don't have anything plausible to do after the events of ME2, What with Grunt joining Urdnot, Legion assimilating back into the Geth, etc. And yes, I am including Tali in ths assessment,as there's no way she's getting on the Admiralty Board. But that's another theory for another thread.

Hey... it's possible for tali to become an admiral.

[Ooga600]

Everyone who is still alive probably (mostly as characters, not squad members). I hope Thane hasn't died of Kepral's Syndrome by the time ME 3 starts.