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[Adamgcl]

Sorry about posting twice, just want to make sure that people know it's a new topic of discussion.

Will the EVGA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 PCI-E Video Card Be sufficient for this game? I can't really be spending over 100 dollars on a video card right now.

Thanks.

Modifié par Adamgcl, 15 février 2010 - 01:33 .

[ShinsFortress]

I wouldn't bet it to, as that won't even beat a 9500GT. Take a look here: http://social.biowar...58/index/128343 for what DA:O likes and doesn't like.



Personally, I have never spent spend less than £60+ on a video card, depending on circumstances at the time. Usually, I spend £100+ if I can; and that's UK money.



If you mean US dollars, and go go up to the 100 that you mention not going over, you may be able to stretch to something like the ATI Radeon 3850 or Nvidia Geforce 9600GT, depending on local pricing. They are up to double what that 210 will cost you, but will give you more than double the performance and long-term value.

[Gorath Alpha]

What do you mean by "sufficient"? That's a pretty mundane card, meant for just charts, graphs, presentations, and spreadsheets in business. It's not a "bad" one, just slow, and with comparatively few shader units included. I do not include cards of that Low Quality in my primary Rankings list. I've checked just now, and it's on the longer list, next to the 8400 GS, a pretty terrible old model junker.

It's worth maybe $45, tops. You can get decent cards such as the HD 5670 for $99, that runs 8-10 times faster than a puny G210. For about $60, you can get HD 4650s that run 4 times faster, or an HD 4670 that runs 5 times faster for $70 by shopping around.

All pricing is strictly for stateside delivery from online retailers in USD.

[ZootCadillac]

ignore the bull**** from Mr Superior above ( Gorath Alpha )

Your card might actually run the game at low spec but it's not designed to.
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If you would like some impartial advice rather than abuse from gorath on his ATI crusade then please respond and I'll help you out rather than try and belittle you.

and peope. Stop talking to this guy like he's doing you a favour. He gives you bull**** in an effort to appear superior. His whole forum life is built around ridiculing others in order to feel good about himself.

Modifié par ZootCadillac, 15 février 2010 - 03:59 .

[Jfool]

Im pretty sure the 210 falls into the EXTREME low end of onboards. But usually if you have one of those situations its a good chance you have an open PCI-e slot to install something better and save that onboard for HTPC or dual monitor video watching or even as a backup in event you need to replace a real GPU.

[Eurypterid]

Zoot, you may want to lay off the insults and name calling.



For what it's worth, Gorath knows what he's talking about and he's definitely doing this guy a favor by steering him clear of that card. The current best value for money happens to be in the ATI line, not to mention the fact their latest cards run rings around similar nVidia offerings (I say this as an nVidia card owner), so there's no 'crusade' involved here either.

[ShinsFortress]

Question: I switched from Nvidia to ATI nearly two years ago, but that was mainly for value for money rather than power. I assumed Nvidia still had the edge for performance (features like PhysX and new geforce cards like the 275 and 295), but is that not the case?



Maybe Nvidia is slipping, as they also seem (to me) to be slow on the uptake for new motherboard tech...

[stubbieAussie]

To the OP;
The Can You Run It site here cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/intro.aspx might help.

Keep in mind meeting the minimum requirements will probably mean you can run the game but it might not be an enjoyable experience due to slow frame rates and using the very minimum graphic settings.
If you meet the recommended specs you should have a pretty good time of it.

Modifié par stubbieAussie, 15 février 2010 - 11:26 .

[Gorath Alpha]

ShinsFortress wrote...

Question: I switched from Nvidia to ATI nearly two years ago, but that was mainly for value for money rather than power. I assumed Nvidia still had the edge for performance (features like PhysX and new geforce cards like the 275 and 295), but is that not the case?

Maybe Nvidia is slipping, as they also seem (to me) to be slow on the uptake for new motherboard tech...

Anand Shimpi wrote an excellent article about how the Radeon HD 5n000 generation was shepherded from inception (2005) to release last year.  In it, he periperally mentions some of the differences between ATI and nVIDIA with regard to this generation, including the seriously delayed "Fermi" from nVIDIA. 

www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx

There have been other AnandTech articles related to how nVIDIA hopes to get past the major video turnover that is coming in two years, when ATI and Intel are fighting it out with APUs, not CPUs,  That turnover could be the end of nVIDIA, or the signal that a brand new (corporate) life has begun. 

I alluded to the changes in this message here: 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/79841

nVIDIA makes good products, although they have missed having a response at the high end to the last two Radeon generations.  Their financial condition is good, and they have a plan, but I haven't thought well of their limitations on price-cutting that has kept them from offering similar value to ATI, save at a few carefully selected price points, for which I rely on Toms Hardware to reveal, and it's been my thought that those articles were reasonably unbiased. 

AMD isn't refusing to allow nVIDIA to create MB Chipsets for the latest processors, but Intel definitely is suing them over whether they can create chipsets for the latest Intel products (and being sued in return, including by the FTC).

The 260 through 280 are now two years old, and the 285 / 295 are a year old.  Fermi was originally scheduled for release last summer (or this past fall, not able to recall), but the thing is supposed to be truly huge, like the one in the 280 is, which is a major gamble when moving to a new 40 mm die wafer, as ATI has just lead the way onto. 

Personally, although it's now three years old, I am shopping for a Geforce 8800 GT (on eBay), simply because it is likely to be a good buy there, and my fastest Geforce is an 8600 GTS.  I couldn't stay up late enough last night to bid on one; the Sandman carried me off beforte that midnight auction ended (added in edit -- I just checked, and someone got that one for $73, with free shipping). 

P. S.  Folks, there's literally only one possible use for the SR Labs' web site, and it isn't for getting accurate results.  That place is a bad joke in that regard, really.  It's a quick enough way for someone to get a rundown on most of their hardware to print out and take with them when game shopping, but please, be CAREFUL who you send there, as they can screw things up badly for people who can't afford both an upgrade and a new game at the same time.

If absolutely necessary, and also not 100% accurate, but tremendously better than SR Labs, is the Game-o-Meter at YouGamers. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 15 février 2010 - 12:56 .

[Jfool]

Eurypterid wrote...

Zoot, you may want to lay off the insults and name calling.

For what it's worth, Gorath knows what he's talking about and he's definitely doing this guy a favor by steering him clear of that card. The current best value for money happens to be in the ATI line, not to mention the fact their latest cards run rings around similar nVidia offerings (I say this as an nVidia card owner), so there's no 'crusade' involved here either.

Sad that this came from a Moderator. Gorath,after reading  a few (just a few) shows an agenda. And not 1 of these posts helps the original poster.

[Gorath Alpha]

Are you claiming I've launched a vendetta on Jen-Hsun Huang? Really? You're almost as deluded as the fanboy is.

IMO, however, you are wrong in every regard, including how the OP's query has been covered. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 15 février 2010 - 05:23 .

[Mad Method]

Adam, the 210 you mention is no good. The game WILL run, but not well. I recommend you follow Gorath's recommendations. Those cards will fare much better.



Jfool, Zoot, if you're going to post to this thread, post something useful. If you don't like Gorath's recommendations, instead of just accusing him, come up with counter-recommendations.

[Gorath Alpha]

Adamgcl wrote...

Will the EVGA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 PCI-E Video Card Be sufficient for this game?

Here's the latest review.  It's very bad, just as I'd already known, but here it all is, in fresh verbiage: 

www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx

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