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Gemini1179

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The Bartender always introduces herself, but I can never remember the name, I think it's something like "Athena". With all the dialogue options, I had always wondered why her tag remained "The Bartender". Talking to her has led me to wonder if... she's Liara's father.

"Even had a pureblood daughter, I was the father... it didn't work out."

This line is put into very little context except she mentions it near the end of her speech about what it's like being a Matriarch.

Thoughts?

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Gill Kaiser

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Aethyta.

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DaftPaycheck

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Man people are obsessed with finding Liara's father....

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DeMoNxDaVe

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Yeah I was like "Pureblood daughter . . . . YO LIARA!? THIS YO DADDY!"

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I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.



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Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


Which is exactly why it's probably true.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


liara is now a expert at finding information. ever think she ended up 30 feet way from the bartender for a reason?

maybe liara already knows. maybe she has already confronted her. maybe she wanted to but couldnt do it and you have to do it in the DLC ppl keep talking about.

btw, OP, this is not a new theory and i am with you, the coincidence is uncanny.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


this

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TOBY FLENDERSON

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Seriously it would be awesome if Liaras grandfather was a 1000 year old krogan. Then grunt might start making passes at her, hilarious.

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"Paging Maury. Maury, we have a job for you on Illium."



Even the "You are the father" or "You NOT the father" lines could apply in this case. I really think it's a remarkable coincidence. I'm not willing to say it's anything more than coincidence, though.

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vashts1985 wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


liara is now a expert at finding information. ever think she ended up 30 feet way from the bartender for a reason?


Um, no? What advantage would being 30 feet away from her bartending parent give her in finding information?

maybe liara already knows. maybe she has already confronted her. maybe she wanted to but couldnt do it and you have to do it in the DLC ppl keep talking about.


Then why would neither of them mention it? You'd think they would recognize each other by appearnce or name. Unless Liara changed her name, I think the bartender would eb able to figure out it was her daughte

btw, OP, this is not a new theory and i am with you, the coincidence is uncanny.


So pureblood daughter=Tali's father? I don't see it.

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Unless Aethyta ends up being some sort of Chekhov's Gunman in ME3, I don't see her being Liara's father (as awesome as she is), it'd be to much of a cop out on Bioware's part.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

vashts1985 wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


liara is now a expert at finding information. ever think she ended up 30 feet way from the bartender for a reason?


Um, no? What advantage would being 30 feet away from her bartending parent give her in finding information?

maybe liara already knows. maybe she has already confronted her. maybe she wanted to but couldnt do it and you have to do it in the DLC ppl keep talking about.


Then why would neither of them mention it? You'd think they would recognize each other by appearnce or name. Unless Liara changed her name, I think the bartender would eb able to figure out it was her daughte

btw, OP, this is not a new theory and i am with you, the coincidence is uncanny.


So pureblood daughter=Tali's father? I don't see it.


maybe i didnt explain myself well enough. liara had no clue who her father was. now that shes in the information business, its highly possible that she tracked down her father. like i said, maybe she went to illesum to be closer to her father, or maybe she went there to contact her, and just never left.

bioware does stuff with a reason. i find it very likely that whole statement about the bartender having a pureblood daughter was specifically to get us to come here and throw the theory around and discuss it until they make some big reveal confirming or denying the fact.

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vashts1985 wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

vashts1985 wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I think it would be somewhat ridiculous for Liara's father to be running a bar about 30 feet away from her.


liara is now a expert at finding information. ever think she ended up 30 feet way from the bartender for a reason?


Um, no? What advantage would being 30 feet away from her bartending parent give her in finding information?

maybe liara already knows. maybe she has already confronted her. maybe she wanted to but couldnt do it and you have to do it in the DLC ppl keep talking about.


Then why would neither of them mention it? You'd think they would recognize each other by appearnce or name. Unless Liara changed her name, I think the bartender would eb able to figure out it was her daughte

btw, OP, this is not a new theory and i am with you, the coincidence is uncanny.


So pureblood daughter=Tali's father? I don't see it.


maybe i didnt explain myself well enough. liara had no clue who her father was. now that shes in the information business, its highly possible that she tracked down her father. like i said, maybe she went to illesum to be closer to her father, or maybe she went there to contact her, and just never left.

bioware does stuff with a reason. i find it very likely that whole statement about the bartender having a pureblood daughter was specifically to get us to come here and throw the theory around and discuss it until they make some big reveal confirming or denying the fact.


I just find it hard to believe that neither of them would mention their daughter/father working right down the street.

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why would they? the bartender has no clue who you are and might not know of your past with liara, and liara is obviously more preoccupied with the shadow broker to say, oh hey, i found my father. lets all have dinner or something.



just the way i see it.

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Liara's on Illium. Every word she says is apparently being 'recorded'. You think shes going say that her father was working in a nearby bar when theres a damn good chance that dozens of enemies could be listening in?

EDIT:: This is ofcourse assuming that Liara's even aware of our Bartender friend. And that shes actually her 'father'

Modifié par cBselfmonkey, 15 février 2010 - 03:28 .


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vashts1985 wrote...

why would they? the bartender has no clue who you are and might not know of your past with liara, and liara is obviously more preoccupied with the shadow broker to say, oh hey, i found my father. lets all have dinner or something.

just the way i see it.


Well if you're Liara's love interest, I imagine she would at least mention you to the bartender once. Or hell, Liara should probably tell you when you ask her how she is. You'd think finding her father would be a big deal, considering we killed her mother 2 years ago.

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There's more than one pureblood Asari in the Milky Way. It would be sort of weird for her to be Liara's "father".

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The main thing about this theory is that the bartender talks about "that screw up with Saren a few years ago" when you ask her about her past. This leads me to believe that if she was Benezia's partner, she would be a bit more . . . resprectful?



So no, I don't think the bartender is Liara's father.

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Oh, please, don't make this another Bollywood story. More than it already is, at any rate. The game already suffers from all those fathers, sons, sisters and daughters.

Seriously, at some point I even thought that the Collector General would send me an email asking for a little truce, so that he could solve a family problem with his son or something.

Modifié par T0paze, 15 février 2010 - 03:51 .


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wizardryforever wrote...

The main thing about this theory is that the bartender talks about "that screw up with Saren a few years ago" when you ask her about her past. This leads me to believe that if she was Benezia's partner, she would be a bit more . . . resprectful?

So no, I don't think the bartender is Liara's father.


I considered that, but she doesn't specifically mention Benezia and that line "That screw up with Saren a few years ago" can be interpretted many, many different ways. Remember "it didn't end well", referring to the pairing, as well as the fact that it is hard to interpret the feelings and emotions of a fictional alien race by using human logic.

I realize that it is most likely a red herring, and very unlikely that she is Liara's "father", but it's something to ponder.

As for Liara finding out on her own, I suspect that is highly unlikely as she never had ANY info about her 'father', so unless the Bartender let it slip that she had a kid with Benezia that somehow reached Liara's intelligence network, it is highly likely they could be standing beside eachother and not ever know of their connection.