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[Nyaore]

Conway044 wrote...

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

I also highly doubt Thane only killed bad people. Good people dont normally hire assassins.

Maybe so, we don't know enough about the Hanar though. From the little I do know, the Hanar problem use the assassins in the same way the Salarians use their STG and the Council their Spectres, to handle the tasks the Hanar can't physically handle offworld. Drell assassins may be used to kill political enemies or criminal organization leaders.

Who is to say? I'm leaning on the "Thane kills bad people" side, but w/e. Still not the same as Morinth, who kills whoever she is attracted to or hungers for.

Given Morinth's obvious hate for "authority" and "rules" it is unlikely she'll live by any code and if so, for long. Morinth is the perfect example of a satanist.

Maybe Anarchist or Sociopath, I don't see Satanist. 

I think they're refering to something like LaVeyan Satanism. http://en.wikipedia....aVeyan_Satanism

[scrappydoo555]

SteelEagleShane wrote...

scrappydoo555 wrote...

I think most of you are being a but hard on Morinth. Imagine reaching puberty only to be told you have a genetic abnomality that means you will kill anyone you have sex with, then given the choice of total isolation from any other beings or death. Of course your going to run away. To top it all I doubt she wasn't always a murderous sociopath. I can quite imagine that at some point in her travels she fell in love or at least cared for someone enough to want to have sex with them, hoping she would be strong enough to resist sucking them dry only to kill them. I think the guilt and the realisation that she can never have a proper relationship turned her into a sociopath and the power she felt taking the life became too strong resist so she had to do it again. Fast forward a few hundred years and she becomes the person we see today. I'm not saying I would take her as a squad mate over her mother (I've only done that once) but I still think there is room for a bit of compasion for her.

I just don't think she was always a cold hearted killer I think she probably struggled with her abnormality for quite sometime before finally acepting what she is and making the most of it, even learning to enjoy the chase before the kill.

I'm sure alot of you would think differently about her if she used her powers to kill bad guys instead of innocents, but because it's an addiction and addictions are ultimately selfish she just goes for what she want's.

You can have compassion and still want to see that person killed hardcore. I can agree with everything you've said and still not even question taking Samara over her. It isn't about compassion; it is about protection. As long as she lives, people will die due to her choices. And now that it is between her and Samara, it makes the choice even easier.

I also think some people see a Renegade Shepard as an evil sociopath. No, he just does anything to get the job done. Taking Morinth over Samara, thereby killing Samara, is for a selfish/evil Shepard. Feel fine to play that way, but in all the times I've played as a Renegade Shepard, I've never even had to rethink this decision.

I do agree with what your saying, she is far too dangerous to be allowed to run free in the galaxy and in all but one of my playthroughs I do choose Samara but I do find her interesting as a character. In comparison though she really isn't much more dangerous than Jack or Samara, the only difference being Morinth has a need to kill to feed her addiction, Samara sees it as being justifiable to kill an innocent if they are standing in the way of her doing her duty and Jack is the one who will kill for hoots and giggles. If morinth pledged her loyalty to Shepard and could be persuaded to only kill bad guys I think she would be seen in a very different light. I would love to see more development of her in ME3, I doubt it will happen but I think there is great potential there.

[SteelEagleShane]

scrappydoo555 wrote...

SteelEagleShane wrote...

scrappydoo555 wrote...

I think most of you are being a but hard on Morinth. Imagine reaching puberty only to be told you have a genetic abnomality that means you will kill anyone you have sex with, then given the choice of total isolation from any other beings or death. Of course your going to run away. To top it all I doubt she wasn't always a murderous sociopath. I can quite imagine that at some point in her travels she fell in love or at least cared for someone enough to want to have sex with them, hoping she would be strong enough to resist sucking them dry only to kill them. I think the guilt and the realisation that she can never have a proper relationship turned her into a sociopath and the power she felt taking the life became too strong resist so she had to do it again. Fast forward a few hundred years and she becomes the person we see today. I'm not saying I would take her as a squad mate over her mother (I've only done that once) but I still think there is room for a bit of compasion for her.

I just don't think she was always a cold hearted killer I think she probably struggled with her abnormality for quite sometime before finally acepting what she is and making the most of it, even learning to enjoy the chase before the kill.

I'm sure alot of you would think differently about her if she used her powers to kill bad guys instead of innocents, but because it's an addiction and addictions are ultimately selfish she just goes for what she want's.

You can have compassion and still want to see that person killed hardcore. I can agree with everything you've said and still not even question taking Samara over her. It isn't about compassion; it is about protection. As long as she lives, people will die due to her choices. And now that it is between her and Samara, it makes the choice even easier.

I also think some people see a Renegade Shepard as an evil sociopath. No, he just does anything to get the job done. Taking Morinth over Samara, thereby killing Samara, is for a selfish/evil Shepard. Feel fine to play that way, but in all the times I've played as a Renegade Shepard, I've never even had to rethink this decision.

I do agree with what your saying, she is far too dangerous to be allowed to run free in the galaxy and in all but one of my playthroughs I do choose Samara but I do find her interesting as a character. In comparison though she really isn't much more dangerous than Jack or Samara, the only difference being Morinth has a need to kill to feed her addiction, Samara sees it as being justifiable to kill an innocent if they are standing in the way of her doing her duty and Jack is the one who will kill for hoots and giggles. If morinth pledged her loyalty to Shepard and could be persuaded to only kill bad guys I think she would be seen in a very different light. I would love to see more development of her in ME3, I doubt it will happen but I think there is great potential there.

Samara would not kill an innocent. In fact, she fought Nihlus over that. I don't like Jack and wouldn't have recruited her.XD

[GothamLord]

Heck, Before we ended up with Grunt, we were going to recruit Okeer. A ruthless and fanatical militant radical.

[scrappydoo555]

SteelEagleShane wrote...

scrappydoo555 wrote...

SteelEagleShane wrote...

scrappydoo555 wrote...

I think most of you are being a but hard on Morinth. Imagine reaching puberty only to be told you have a genetic abnomality that means you will kill anyone you have sex with, then given the choice of total isolation from any other beings or death. Of course your going to run away. To top it all I doubt she wasn't always a murderous sociopath. I can quite imagine that at some point in her travels she fell in love or at least cared for someone enough to want to have sex with them, hoping she would be strong enough to resist sucking them dry only to kill them. I think the guilt and the realisation that she can never have a proper relationship turned her into a sociopath and the power she felt taking the life became too strong resist so she had to do it again. Fast forward a few hundred years and she becomes the person we see today. I'm not saying I would take her as a squad mate over her mother (I've only done that once) but I still think there is room for a bit of compasion for her.

I just don't think she was always a cold hearted killer I think she probably struggled with her abnormality for quite sometime before finally acepting what she is and making the most of it, even learning to enjoy the chase before the kill.

I'm sure alot of you would think differently about her if she used her powers to kill bad guys instead of innocents, but because it's an addiction and addictions are ultimately selfish she just goes for what she want's.

You can have compassion and still want to see that person killed hardcore. I can agree with everything you've said and still not even question taking Samara over her. It isn't about compassion; it is about protection. As long as she lives, people will die due to her choices. And now that it is between her and Samara, it makes the choice even easier.

I also think some people see a Renegade Shepard as an evil sociopath. No, he just does anything to get the job done. Taking Morinth over Samara, thereby killing Samara, is for a selfish/evil Shepard. Feel fine to play that way, but in all the times I've played as a Renegade Shepard, I've never even had to rethink this decision.

I do agree with what your saying, she is far too dangerous to be allowed to run free in the galaxy and in all but one of my playthroughs I do choose Samara but I do find her interesting as a character. In comparison though she really isn't much more dangerous than Jack or Samara, the only difference being Morinth has a need to kill to feed her addiction, Samara sees it as being justifiable to kill an innocent if they are standing in the way of her doing her duty and Jack is the one who will kill for hoots and giggles. If morinth pledged her loyalty to Shepard and could be persuaded to only kill bad guys I think she would be seen in a very different light. I would love to see more development of her in ME3, I doubt it will happen but I think there is great potential there.

Samara would not kill an innocent. In fact, she fought Nihlus over that. I don't like Jack and wouldn't have recruited her.XD

she said herself her code would have forced her to kill the cop on illium after one day and the conversation where she talks about Nihlus, Shepard even says "you've done the same thing" meaning the asari that she faught and killed even once the asari unarmed. Also from what we know of Nihlus he didn't seem like the kinda of guy that would kill and innocent without good cause but Samara didn't stop to ask his reasons she just decided he needed to die for what he did even though he was a spectre.

[SteelEagleShane]

GothamLord wrote...

Heck, Before we ended up with Grunt, we were going to recruit Okeer. A ruthless and fanatical militant radical.

Difference:
We don't have to kill someone who is already on our team to recruit Okeer/Grunt.
You do with Morinth.

Yes, that does change the thinking radically. If Morinth was by herself and we didn't have to KILL A MEMBER OF YOUR SQUAD to get her, then I can see it a lot more logically.

[GothamLord]

SteelEagleShane wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

Heck, Before we ended up with Grunt, we were going to recruit Okeer. A ruthless and fanatical militant radical.

Difference:
We don't have to kill someone who is already on our team to recruit Okeer/Grunt.
You do with Morinth.

Yes, that does change the thinking radically. If Morinth was by herself and we didn't have to KILL A MEMBER OF YOUR SQUAD to get her, then I can see it a lot more logically.

But if you get Morinth, Shepard is the only one that knows its not really Samara.  Remember she can mimic her mother down right perfectly.    I can deny I killed a member of my squad.  My Renegade Shepard was all about picking up people that didnt have a issue with doing what was necessary to get the job done.  The justicar's code could have proven to become a hinderance if I needed to off the wrong person. I can point Morinth at them and know shes not going to hesitate.

Modifié par GothamLord, 16 février 2010 - 01:46 .

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

KorPhaeron11 wrote...

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Brienna_ wrote...
but I wanted to give Morinth a chance. Maybe her "disease" is something you might cure? Hell, Cerberus woke Shep from death.

You wanted to give a multitime offender a "chance?

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 What about jack?

I recruited Jack because she could be useful and was confident I could keep her in line.. I only wanted to start giving her a chance when I realized she was suffering from something that is possible to recover from given what we already know about human psychology and childhood abuse.. though very difficult to do. Jack is like any other kid that was kidnapped and forced to be child soldiers. Morinth however, as far as the Asari know can't abstain from her actions, addiction affect Asari differently from humans.

[Mr0TYuH]

There are a couple of factors at work with Morinth.  The first, obviously, is the addiction.  She was already an addict when she was forced to make the choice between a cloistered life and a life as a fugitive.  The second factor is that, with the exception of true sociopaths, nobody sees themselves as evil.  Murderers and addicts are very good at justifying, to themselves, their actions.

There are a couple of things that Morinth says that may shed light on her character.  Firstly, she says that she is the genetic future of the asari.  Secondly, Morinth claims that Shepard is strong enough to survive their melding.  Now, the latter is obviously false, but perhaps Morinth believes it.  It is possible that Morinth truly is a sociopath and is simply trying to manipulate Shepard, but it is also possible that she has deluded herself into believing this.  Maybe Morinth believes if she can just find someone "strong enough" for her, she can truly bring about the future of the asari, and that would justify everything she has done.  Another possiblitiy is that Morinth sees herself as a sort of organic Reaper.  Perhaps she believes after she mates with enough people, then she'll have a child.  If an asari child inherits the best traits of her father, an asari child with a thousand fathers would be a super asari.

We really don't have enough knowledge about Morinth to know which is truly the case, but I lean more towards the latter.  Morinth is a hedonist.  Hedonism is all about drowning in sensation.  Sociopaths feel nothing.  They lack emotional responses to stimuli.  Sociopaths tend to be withdrawn and manipulate those around them distantly for their own purposes.  Now, some sociopaths, such as Charles Manson, have used hedonism to manipulate their followers, so it is possible that Morinth is sociopath.

Does any of this justify Morinth's past actions?  No, but I feel the term sociopath is being applied to her a bit too liberally.

Sainthood82 wrote...

2 Years after Mission

Shepard: Hi Samara, it's been awhile!

Samara: My code dictates Shepard that you mus die.

Shepard: Oh, ok then.

*Shepard Stealth Sniper Shot crit Samara for 100% the lifebar*
*Samara dies*

Or 2 years after the mission:

Shepard: Hi Samara, I'm....

Samara bounces Shepard off the walls for a couple of minutes.  Finally, Shepard is left injured and disoriented on the ground.

Samara: I told you if our paths ever crossed again, I'd have to kill you.

Samara snaps Shepard's neck, and a couple of months later, the Reapers invade.

vs.

Shepard: Hi, Morinth.  I'm pretty busy right now.  I'm in the middle of a vital mission.

Morinth: Shepard, I've done some research, and, if you wear this tin-foil hat, we can have sex without putting you in any danger.

Shepard: You don't actually expect me to fall for that.  I'm don't have time for this.

Morinth: Fine.  Mind if I help?

Shepard: Alright, but remember, no sex!

A couple of months later, Shepard stops the Reapers, saving trillions of lives.

Despite what others may feel, I do not see Samara as someone who will give fair warning before attacking at some unspecified date in the future.  The choice, for a Renegade Shepard, can be seen between chosing between a highly skilled Justicar who may try to kill you at some point in the future and a powerful biotic who may make transparent attempts at getting you to commit suicide.  Both are going to cause complications in the future, perhaps at a critical moment.  With the fate of the galaxy at stake, it becomes a judgement call as to which distraction has the potential of impacting your mission the least.

I'm not really trying to convice anyone why some characters may choose Morinth.  I'm just pointing out that there are reasons why others may make that choice for their characters.

Modifié par Mr0TYuH, 16 février 2010 - 08:13 .

[Internet Kraken]

KorPhaeron11 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

Ramikadyc wrote...

Morinth tries to kill you. Twice. To me, taking someone who actively tries to kill you is not in agreement with even a Reneshep, who though wants to get the job done, still wants to live

How does she try to kill you twice? Once maybe on the loyalty mission, but when else? Just because she WANTS to kill me doesn't mean she CAN kill me, and it seemed like she knew that after recruiting her, which is where her loyalty to you comes in. Some might disagree, but after some conversations with Morinth, she does have some "humanity," she's just a person who became what her curse made her--she didn't ask to be a Ardat-Yakshi, and the choice between joining the asari equivalent to a nunery or accepting death isn't a fair choice at all. Yes, she's got evil urges and has performed evil deeds, yes she has an insatiable addiction to the narcotic effect of melding and the power that comes with it, but that's who she is.

Now if you don't agree with that, good luck finding something about what I'm about to say to agree with. I find Samara to be totally and utterly irresponsible. She had THREE children who were Ardat-Yakshi. THREE. Maybe one was a mistake, and its worth trying for a second. But then the second had the same curse. Still, she went for a THIRD, and she even admits that it might stem from them being purebloods, yet she continued to meld with another asari, so you can't justify it as her maternal choice to have more children, because she had the option to meld with another species to try to prevent it.

That's just my opinion, though. And that's the opinion I take with me on some playthroughs.

So you're willing to recruit a cold-blooded murderer?She just killed a n innocent young woman .. She's a monster.

Jack, Zaeed

Whats one more?

Neither of them are trying to kill me to satisfy their addiction. And given the chance I would not recruit Jack either. Zaeed may be a cold-hearted mercenary but at least he has some honor, albeit not much. Plus I know he's loyal to me beause my employer holds his paycheck.

[sirisaacx]

I took her on my douche-shep playthrough, but only because I intend to screw myself over as much as possible in ME3.

[Ramikadyc]

Playing as a Renegade, as said, depending on your choices, Samara straight up tells you that after the mission she just might try to kill you. Morinth, although she might want to kill you as a side effect of melding with you, is not actively threatening you. So, playing the role of this particular Renegade, you either make the choice to keep the powerful biotic Matriarch who tells you that after your mission is over she will fight you and will therefore be of no use to you in the final battle against the Reapers (that sorta important event where the fate of the galaxy is decided), or you decide to throw her away for her (arguably) equally powerful daughter who has committed countless murders in order to feed her evil cravings, yet is totally obsessed with you because of how powerful you are and how much respect you command, and because of that she unquestioningly agrees to follow you on your mission and do whatever you want her to do.

Pick the woman who claims she will try to kill you at the end of the mission...or pick the woman who is more likely to stay and help you and who has not claimed she will try to kill you at the end of the mission... Maybe it's just because I'm ruthlessly pragmatic, but I'll take the powerful biotic daughter who is totally evil but who I can keep in line and who will continue to help me on my mission.

Of course, in the end, my Shepard is neither Paragon or Renegade. He makes the choices which best benefit him and his agenda, regardless of their moral dilemma, and when all is said and done, the save that I take with me into Mass Effect 3 is going to be one where I chose Samara over Morinth, because I like Samara as a character and want to try to make choices where I'm still a hard-ass but the outcome will be one where she doesn't threaten to kill me. But I'll be damned if my Renegade Shepard--who is not a Renegade for the sake of being Renegade, but is just a total pragmatist hard-ass who will do anything to complete the mission and that just happens to be making mostly Renegade choices, as per the role I was playing--was going to pass up that opportunity.

But I don't understand why everyone says she's actively trying to kill you (Morinth). She never actively tried to kill me, at least not after the loyalty mission (and then she was trying to kill you because you were just another interesting person and not being yourself). Yeah, she tries to seduce you and maybe kill you, but during the talks about how she wants to meld with you I caught some humanity, as if she really wished that her and my Shep could be together without me dying. But for me, I had another love interest, and there's a galaxy at stake, so I would never make the choice to be with her--she is just a powerful tool for me to use-- and I've already proven I'm more powerful... so like I said, she never actively tried to kill me, despite maybe her wanting to.

Modifié par Ramikadyc, 16 février 2010 - 02:04 .

[timedrake32]

Internet Kraken wrote...

finnithe wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Ramikadyc wrote...

stillnotking wrote...

Ramikadyc wrote...

It makes sense depending on what role you're playing. I like to take Morinth because of her Dominate. Story-wise, I take her because, depending on what kind of path I'm roleplaying, I find Samara pretentious--hell, if anyone is a Renegade, she flat-out tells you she'll kill you if she sees you after the mission. Why WOULDN'T you take Morinth after that?

Huh?  She never told my Renegade Shep that.  She warned me at her recruitment that she'd kill me if I forced her to do anything "too dishonorable", but my Paragon Shep got the same warning.  Maybe it's tied to a particular choice or set of choices.

Not sure what triggers it. Basically, she tells you that, because of choices you've made, her Code dictates that, if you and her were to meet after the mission, she might have to kill you. Either way, feelings toward a character are unique to the individual. I really like Samara as a character, but taking Morinth while I'm playing a hard-ass (read: jerk) makes more sense to me.

If you're too Renegade Samara says that for the sake of your friendship she hopes that you don't meet again after the suicide mission because she'd be forced to attack you. However, she's not going to be hunting you down or anything. If anything, she'd probably try to avoid you in order to prevent that occurance.

Morinth, on the other hand, is likely to follow you everywhere trying to trick you into letting her kill you with mind sex. She'd probably seduce all your girlfriends and wage a psychological war on you until you broke.

I'm actually surprised that none of other crew/squadmates mysteriously perish during the Morinth's stay on the SR-2.

Yeah I'd expect someone particularly careless to end up dead. Like Kelly....

Though Morinth is kind of obsessed with Shepard and is focused on trying to eat his brain so I guess she was just ignoring everone else.

to true man but I think once she is done with Shepard she would move on to the rest of the crew

IN ONE DAY!<_<

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

GothamLord wrote...
The justicar's code could have proven to become a hinderance if I needed to off the wrong person. I can point Morinth at them and know shes not going to hesitate. 

It is highly unlikely you would come across any one that you need to "off" so badly that even after swearing her oath to follow your orders Samara would try to stop you.

[GothamLord]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

GothamLord wrote...
The justicar's code could have proven to become a hinderance if I needed to off the wrong person. I can point Morinth at them and know shes not going to hesitate. 

It is highly unlikely you would come across any one that you need to "off" so badly that even after swearing her oath to follow your orders Samara would try to stop you.

My Renegade Shepard isnt taking that chance. I need crew that follow me because I say so, not because their religious code commands it.  I'm also looking at things post-suicide mission.  If I decide to take Jack up on that idea of becoming a pirate after this Reaper nonsense is over I might want to keep some of the crew. Samara wouldnt stick around for that, Morinth would more likely.    

[krylo]

My opinion is this:

If you're Renegade you're stupid NOT to kill Samara. Here's why:

Yes, Morinth wants to kill you. However, Morinth wants to kill you WITH SEX. You can, and have, resisted her attempts to screw you before. You can do it again. Morinth is, therefore, effectively a non-threat. Further, Morinth is not stupid. She's a very intelligent and calculating predator. Anyone dies of a brain hemorrhage on the Normandy and she knows she's not getting to the shuttle and there's going to be three about 9 or 10 people gunning for her, all of which are as good as her if not better. Plus a bunch of redshirts. She's dead.

Thus, Morinth is no threat to you or your crew.

If you feel guilty about leaving her alive, you could get two other loyal crew members and go and murder her after the mission, getting the drop on her and easily finishing her.

Samara, on the other hand, promises to kill you AFTER the mission. This means that if you ever run into her she will be the one getting the drop on you and there's a good chance she's going to win that confrontation and you'll be dead. She nearly killed Nihlus after all, and was better than him.

Now I'm not saying she's better than Shepard, but if she guns first and Shepard's alone the chances are a hell of a lot better than Samara is going to kill Shep than Morinth.

Therefore, Morinth is actually the safer character to save IF you're going renegade.

Modifié par krylo, 16 février 2010 - 02:22 .

[Ramikadyc]

krylo wrote...

 Anyone dies of a brain hemorrhage on the Normandy and she knows she's not getting to the shuttle and there's going to be three about 9 or 10 people gunning for her, all of which are as good as her if not better. Plus a bunch of redshirts. She's dead.

Thus, Morinth is no threat to you or your crew.

My thoughts exactly. Beyond that, though, my crew is comprised of some the most intelligent and deadly people in the galaxy; there is not a single one among them who is a confused, suggestible little girl named Nef, and the chances of any of them giving into her temptation are, well, zero.

And we have Mordin! Maybe we'll find a way to help Morinth! After all, we did discover how to avoid Collector swarms and defeat one of the greatest threats to the galaxy in just a short time. It's a nice thought.

Modifié par Ramikadyc, 16 février 2010 - 02:29 .

[scrappydoo555]

Ramikadyc wrote...



But I don't understand why everyone says she's actively trying to kill you (Morinth). She never actively tried to kill me, at least not after the loyalty mission (and then she was trying to kill you because you were just another interesting person and not being yourself). Yeah, she tries to seduce you and maybe kill you, but during the talks about how she wants to meld with you I caught some humanity, as if she really wished that her and my Shep could be together without me dying. But for me, I had another love interest, and there's a galaxy at stake, so I would never make the choice to be with her--she is just a powerful tool for me to use-- and I've already proven I'm more powerful... so like I said, she never actively tried to kill me, despite maybe her wanting to.

I think this is a very good point, I know Morinth is a murderer but I do feel a bit sorry for her never being able to have a connection with anyone without it resulting in their death. Then for the first time she meets someone strong enough to resist her manipulation and she thinks just maybe Shepard is also strong enough to survive and she can at last have a meaningful relationship with someone. I know it's probably an overly romantic view on my part but it would make for a very interesting romance if Shepard happened to be the only person to survive her melding and helped her give up her murderous ways.

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Yeah, she tries to seduce you and maybe kill you, but during the talks about how she wants to meld with you I caught some humanity, as if she really wished that her and my Shep could be together without me dying.

It's called acting and you're called a tool.

[Ramikadyc]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Yeah, she tries to seduce you and maybe kill you, but during the talks about how she wants to meld with you I caught some humanity, as if she really wished that her and my Shep could be together without me dying.

It's called acting and you're called a tool.

Call it what you will, I believe Morinth can be saved...and she can just as easily be executed.

[Brienna_]

This is a good thread. There haven't been enough talk about Morinth (only the "let's hate and kill her, uuu sex-maniac asari" bull****). And who ever compared Morinth to vampire, that sounds about right. Samara's loyalty mission was one of the most toughest for me (hell felt like **** after killing Samara. lol, I'm still human).

I think it's amazing that Bioware makes this kind of characters who are complex and even evil. But it makes me angry that some people are so full of themselves and their god-like moral code that they can't even try to understand why someone would pick Morinth over Samara and just label them stupid or what was it, satanic?? (lol, it's a game). Heh, and usually they are the ones who have an avatar of Geth or TIM ---- characters, which someone else might describe pure evil.



But still, continue the talk! I wanna here more cons and pros of Morinth. ...And sorry for my ranting and bad grammar.



p.s. Seriously hoping that both Samara and Morinth (who ever you saved) are available for squadmates for ME3. They're the first asari I've truly liked...minus the boobs..XD