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[Graunt]

sinosleep wrote...

They aren't all the same. Barrier gets buffed by biotic boosts, geth shield boost not only gets buffed by tech boosts, but the 2 geth shield boosts, AND it has a +10 % damage version. The only one that is truly gimped is fortification. Which seems to be glitched in the tutorial level. I made a vid showing the loads and everything on the same character from the tutorial at freedom's progress where it stops working.

I'm not so sure the 2/2 Geth Shield bonus only applies to those using the Geth Shield talent.  The wording is very ambiguous and states: Upgrades squad members with geth shield technology.

That could also simply mean you're upgrading your shields in general to match those of the Geth, who have superior shields over Alliance by default.  It's easy enough to verify, but I can't right this second so I'll do it later if no one else has by then.

Modifié par Graunt, 16 février 2010 - 12:52 .

[mundus66]

Im pretty sure geth shield boost just boosts Legions shields, same as krogan vitality boosts Grunts health. They are the only 2 optional characters after all (if you do their recruit mission you don't have to recruit them) and they are the only squad mates with 3 upgrades. Jack and Mordin only got 1.

[danman2424]

gr00grams wrote...

Not sure why we are arguing over this one.

Well for once here on the forum, I don't think we are arguing in this thread.
I think it's more everyone is just wondering what the hell's the point of three identical bonus skills?

Hopefully BioWare will provide at least a hint, or something. Fortification just looks way to cool to have it another duplicate.

As a soldier with all the upgrades on insanity, Heavy fortification seemed to keep me protected way longer than heavy barrier. Barrier barely protects me at all.

[Graunt]

I'm almost 100% sure that the 2/2 50% Geth shield upgrade is applied to your base shields and those shields only and has zero effect on any activated shields such as Barrier, Geth Shield Boost and Fortification.

Base shields = 350 (and 2/2 Geth shield upgrade)
Base + Heavy Fortification = 600
Base + Heavy Geth Shield = 600
Base + Heavy Barrier = 600

It also looks like the game doesn't care about any shield upgrades or armor bonuses and only looks at the base you start out with at the beginning of the game (250) when applying talent bonuses.  Still doesn't add up though, because the Geth upgrade would put you at 375 minimum and that's without any other upgrades.  Maybe 600 is just the cap, but it wouldn't even make any sense to have all of these bonuses in the game to research if after a point they stop doing anything.

Modifié par Graunt, 16 février 2010 - 05:47 .

[SmilingMirror]

Graunt wrote...

I'm almost 100% sure that the 2/2 50% Geth shield upgrade is applied to your base shields and those shields only and has zero effect on any activated shields such as Barrier, Geth Shield Boost and Fortification.

Base shields = 350 (and 2/2 Geth shield upgrade)
Base + Heavy Fortification = 600
Base + Heavy Geth Shield = 600
Base + Heavy Barrier = 600

It also looks like the game doesn't care about any shield upgrades or armor bonuses and only looks at the base you start out with at the beginning of the game (250) when applying talent bonuses.  Still doesn't add up though, because the Geth upgrade would put you at 375 minimum and that's without any other upgrades.  Maybe 600 is just the cap, but it wouldn't even make any sense to have all of these bonuses in the game to research if after a point they stop doing anything.

Dude I can get around 1000 shields with just Power Armor

[rumination888]

Geth Shield Boost upgrade is for Legion only.

[Graunt]

SmilingMirror wrote...

Graunt wrote...

I'm almost 100% sure that the 2/2 50% Geth shield upgrade is applied to your base shields and those shields only and has zero effect on any activated shields such as Barrier, Geth Shield Boost and Fortification.

Base shields = 350 (and 2/2 Geth shield upgrade)
Base + Heavy Fortification = 600
Base + Heavy Geth Shield = 600
Base + Heavy Barrier = 600

It also looks like the game doesn't care about any shield upgrades or armor bonuses and only looks at the base you start out with at the beginning of the game (250) when applying talent bonuses.  Still doesn't add up though, because the Geth upgrade would put you at 375 minimum and that's without any other upgrades.  Maybe 600 is just the cap, but it wouldn't even make any sense to have all of these bonuses in the game to research if after a point they stop doing anything.

Dude I can get around 1000 shields with just Power Armor

Regardless, the +100% bonus doesn't apply to your current shield number, only what you start the game with.  And I'm not sure what's setting your tech armor apart from mine, but using the 75% assault version, it's only adding a total of 187 shields. So even at the 100% version I would only be sitting at 800 shields.  That, plus the fact that I just looked at my Legion sitting at 875 throws the 600 cap theory out the window.  I must be missing a shield upgrade somewhere.

Geth Shield Boost upgrade is for Legion only.

I wasn't really arguing about that, I didn't even know until looking at Legion. Some posts made it seem like the GSB talent was superior to the others because it gained a bonus from the upgrade, but the only person this has any effect on is Legion period.  Why doesn't the upgrade simply state it only works on geth?

Modifié par Graunt, 16 février 2010 - 06:39 .