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Is it safe to assume that Garrus, Tali, Miranda and Jacob will be recruitable in Mass Effect 3?


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(Only if they survived the suicide mission of course)

They just seem to be so tied up in the story that it would be kind of silly to not have them as recruitable characters, Garrus and Tali have been with Shepard since the start, helping him kick geth/collector ass several times and they definitely have the deepest backgrounds of all the characters Shepard meets.

Miranda and Jacob played a big part in Mass Effect 2 and they even had their own game, granted you will have needed to play Mass Effect: Galaxy to get more of their back story but it's definitely there and it's just as deep as Garrus or Tali's.

I'd find it odd for Bioware to not include any of these four as recruitable characters, they're part of what makes the Mass Effect universe great, they add deep personel storys to the ever expanding universe. Creating replacement characters just for Mass Effect 3 wouldn't really work in my opinion, Shepard would want people he trusts to fight the Reapers and unless he dies (again) and is rebuilt (again) I don't see why he would start recruiting random people (again).

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but all of them can die, there are a lot of topic about it.

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I think it's safe to say that if Garrus and Tali aren't squadmates in ME3, there will be a fan riot, possibly culminating in an explosion of internet hatred the likes of which humanity has never seen. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

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Tali and Garrus not being squadmates would mean Bioware would lose 40% of their sales to pirating.

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Rostand82 wrote...

but all of them can die, there are a lot of topic about it.

If they don't survive in ME2 then punish the players who got them killed, if they survive then they should still be on your team.

Why would they randomly abonden Shepard at the most critical point in the trilogy?

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Garrus and Tali are one of the most obviosu ones in my opinion. Miranda probably as well. Jacob, dunno about that, he isn't too popular but time will tell. Liara is the third most obvious to me.



But yeah, I think its pretty safe to assume that Tali and Garrus will be in it because the fans of those would go and rip Bioware's offices apart if they werent in.

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What did Jacob do besides helping you escape the facility at the beginning? But Bioware seem to listen to their fans, so I would think some of the fan favourites would re-appear for recruitment, whilst the others will pop up again for a cameo role.

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if anything there will be more recruitable characters in ME3. if peoples squadmates die they need to be replaced. also i dont see many ME1 characters coming back. If wrex survived he'll lead urdnot to war. maybe kaiden or ashley. possibly liara. as for others all depends on if they lived or not. or perhaps none. wouldnt that be interesting?

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I think we are most likely to see most of ME2 squad mates return, if they survived. If they didn't then you may be able to get some replacements. The thing I really want ME3 to be about is story and characters that are already exist. I don't mind some new squad members but that would mean more time recruiting and less time on the overall story.

My list would be:

Legion

Garrus

Tali

Miranda

Thane (If cured or still going, so doubtful but hopeful)

Jacob

Grunt

Mordin

Jack (Maybe, most may say they don't want on her team, haha)



The reason I say them is due to them not having anywhere else to go. Tali could go to the Migrant Fleet, but she loves Shepard, even if you don't love her back. So I think she will probably follow you to Hell and back for a third time. Same goes for Garrus.

Legion would do it due to being a fan, lol, and for being so liked and awesome everybody wants him, maybe. Mordin is also a very likeable character and is your resident Doctor/Scientist. Grunt and Thane are slightly less likely due to Thane possibly dieing from his illness and Grunt joining Clan Urdnot.

Miranda and Jacob work for you at the end so they will be with you, especially if you romanced them depending on Gender of course.



Overall I think almost all Squad mates will be previous squadmates or known friends, such as Liara and Wrex.

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Marta Rio wrote...

I think it's safe to say that if Garrus and Tali aren't squadmates in ME3, there will be a fan riot, possibly culminating in an explosion of internet hatred the likes of which humanity has never seen. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!


Dr Venkman FTW :)

Seriously though, I think I'd be disappointed if all the potential (surviving) love interests didn't return (based on whoever Shep got involved with)... for it to boil down to "Oh, it didn't work out and he/she left," or "he/she died in a tragic varren-feeding accident," would be a huge disservice to story and fanbase. If we see the leaving/varren-feeding accident at least...

Whether they'll be recruitable, or they'll become background players like Wrex, Liara, etc. remains to be seen.

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Remember, Tali will almost certainly be dead in the Default Shep version. (Because he's too lazy to upgrade shields.) Not sure about Garrus. Miranda and Jacob don't have easy deaths like that.

But if they can sideline Ashley, Kaidan, Liara, and the all-popular Wrex for ME2... Well, you can hope but I don't think it's safe to assume anything.

One of the big pleasures of ME3 *should* be getting the whole gang back together (every survivor of ME1/ME2 crews), but we'll see.

Modifié par flem1, 15 février 2010 - 01:56 .


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i think the best idea on for the forum was to have X amount of recruitable NPCs but only Y amount allowed on ship



where X > Y that way you really get to choose your team ( assuming everyone lives ) or you have a set team if alot of ppl die



personally I think BW will lump all LI as one entity and then give us a bunch of new ones to recruit

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I cant imagine BW makeing us recruit all new squadies for a 3rd time, especially during the most important part of the trilogy. It would just be a huge slap in the face, and i doubt Shepard would be ok with losing an ntire team again to cameos.



Garrus / Tali HAVE to be in there as they've been in since ME1, and to just discard them would have amajor continuity issue.



Miranda/Jacob as their status as LI's would have to stay, not only because they no longer have an organization to return to, but if you cheated on Kai/As/Liara, then there will be 'major consequences" in ME3. I cant see that just being a major cameo scene. More something of Miranda/Jack and Tali/Legion worthy (with no option to calm them both down)



Also, No Moridin, no ME3 for me! Iwant more GIlbert and SUlivan funniness and him acting as my femshep's gynocologyst! (bugs...implanted...lols)

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Rostand82 wrote...

but all of them can die, there are a lot of topic about it.


Everybody but Liara can die. *shrug*

I mean in retrospect I would have just presumed Ashley/Kaidan/Liara would have been the ones to stay with you because in ME1 it was Tali'Zorah and Garrus who indicated they were going to leave once the mission was over.  Yet instead of going  back to C-Sec and rejoining the flotilla (well they did do those things but still...) they were back on your crew.

Who knows how ME3 will go.  If they do give us all new people, so long as they are as good as the new people they gave us in ME2, who I ended up actually liking alot better, it's all good.

Having said that: bring back Miranda!

Modifié par Valmy, 15 février 2010 - 02:09 .


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flem1 wrote...
One of the big pleasures of ME3 *should* be getting the whole gang back together (every survivor of ME1/ME2 crews), but we'll see.


I really hope so. I wouldn't be too bothered if Ashley/Kaiden didn't join unless they are an LI. Same with Liara never really liked her, especially in ME2 she has become an evil version. lol ME2 characters were far better, I especially loved Thane, Legion, Miranda, Garrus, Tali and Mordin. I think I will die if they arn't there.

As said above it would be far better if BW give us alot more choice on Squad Members and we can choose who to recruit and when. So we can have the option to recruit everyone from previous games but we can't actually have everyone. So say you can choose to recuit 15 members you can only have 10 on the ship. They may add some more for people who loose them in the end of ME2, but then it may be better for people who did loose squad members to be punished so if they loose Garrus then there isn't a replacement and they have to try and kill the Reapers with one less possible recuit.
I guess those that arn't chosen by the character can still have some effect on the game such as asking for information or say they aid at the end battle.
E.g. Reaper coming close to the Tuchenka and you decided not to recuit Wrex but during this point you will still see him fighting against the Reaper with you, you just have no control like you would have normal squad members.

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Clova wrote...

Also, No Moridin, no ME3 for me! Iwant more GIlbert and SUlivan funniness and him acting as my femshep's gynocologyst! (bugs...implanted...lols)

Mordin is great, but I would bet that he dies in the majority of ME2 playthroughs (because of his aversion to holding the line).

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I think Tali will definately be in ME3 because Bioware already designed what she looks like under the mask. They're probably just waiting for a big reveal at the end!

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flem1 wrote...
Mordin is great, but I would bet that he dies in the majority of ME2 playthroughs (because of his aversion to holding the line).


Mordin doesn't hold the line, he just shoots and goes home.

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Valmy wrote...

flem1 wrote...
Mordin is great, but I would bet that he dies in the majority of ME2 playthroughs (because of his aversion to holding the line).


Mordin doesn't hold the line, he just shoots and goes home.

Yes, that's what he'd prefer.  But most people stick him on the line anyway.  :(

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The devs would have to be crazy not to bring back Tali and Garrus. The two most popular characters in the series, the only two that have been with you through both games, and neither has any logical place to go other than stay with you. I can't think of anything that Bio could do that would ****** more people off than not giving them big parts in ME3.

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dan107 wrote...

The two most popular characters in the series

Wrex.

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not sure why you included jacob...

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epoch_ wrote...

not sure why you included jacob...


Well he was a pretty big part of the team plotwise this time around.  Dude was in every cutscene like he was your right hand man.  Plus for the paragon he has left Cerberus so where else is he going to go?  Pretty sure he will be back and besides he already had his own starring role in a game. 

Seems to reason future things are planned for him.

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ITs never safe to assume.

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It's already been said. I don't know why people are still fighting it.

Because of the fact that they can die as part of the story, the most they could possibly be in ME3 is optional, which means that they likely won't play a pivotal part in the story. I do expect they'll be in the game, but expect to see Garrus as an optional recruit once again and Tali as either an optional recruit or in a role on the Flotilla (Admiral?) similar to Wrex's on Tuchanka in ME2.

Not that I don't hope to be wrong and see Tali (and Wrex, for that matter) at the forefront of the game again, but Bioware has done far worse on returns before.

Oghren? Really?

Modifié par Gaudion, 15 février 2010 - 02:29 .