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[ivy-83]

 

[G-four]

Only if you want him to.

[tacopacabana]

he will, unless you A-tell him to leave during a conversation

or B- you kill him and never let him join you in the first place (duh)

or C- when his special even comes along in Denereim, you sell him for money or something like that. i think if you help the elven slave traders he'll also get pissed or something like that

[highcastle]

Zevran has the potential to be among the most loyal NPCs, but it all depends on how you treat him. I love this, because it's one more example of how your actions have consequences in this game. If you kill him or send him away, obviously he won't stay with you. And if his approval dips really low, he'll confront you and try to leave (you can either persuade him to stay, let him go, or kill him). This can happen twice, and there's no persuading him the second time.

But if you keep his approval from dipping that low, you get Zevran's personal quest during the Landsmeet. This is basically a random encounter in Denerim, and there's no way to miss it. There's no selling him into slavery like one of the posters above said. Instead, one of Zevran's friends from the Crows shows up. If you got to know him and spoke about his past life with the Crows, you'll know who he is. He says he's come to give Zevran a way back, that he'll tell their old bosses some story and convince them Zev didn't betray them. Now, depending on his approval rating with you, there are three possible outcomes.

Zevran betrays you. This happens only with low approval. Basically, Zevran trusts Talisen more than he trusts you. Usually you get this only if you've never spoken to Zevran, never bothered to get to know him.

Zevran doesn't betray you, but can't find Talisen. If his approval is somewhere in the middle range, he won't want to betray you, but he also won't want to face Talisen, who he considers just as much of a friend.

Zevran fights with you. You get this result if you have high approval with Zevran. It's even sweeter if you romance him. Basically, Zev chooses his friendship or romance with the warden over his old life, finally closing the door on that chapter in his history. It's awesome, and well worth getting his approval up to see.

After the special event, assuming you keep Zev in your party through it, you have a few different results. If you romanced Zev, he'll give you an earring that symbolizes his love for your PC. Depending on how you respond, it can even be a proposal. If you kept things in the friend-zone, he'll talk about how much that friendship means to him. After the battle for the Archdemon, you have a few choices. A romanced Zev will want to stay with you, and a friendshipped Zev most likely will, too. But the ultimate choice of whether to keep him along or not is up to the warden.

[Nimue_KV]

highcastle wrote...
After the battle for the Archdemon, you have a few choices. A romanced Zev will want to stay with you, and a friendshipped Zev most likely will, too. But the ultimate choice of whether to keep him along or not is up to the warden.

Very nicely summed up. And this makes it all the more irksome that Zevran isn't going to play any role whatsoever in the expansion - if you play it right, the OC epilogue explicitly states that he accompanies the Warden to Amaranthine to help with the recruiting and training, although he never becomes a Grey Warden himself.

I'd agree with the statement that Zev can be one of the most loyal characters in the game, but just like in real life, you have to work for it.

[Eudaemonium]

It does surprise me that Zev isn't playing a role in Awakening, given that he's pretty-much the only character who will always accompany you irrespective of romantic involvement (unless he's dead).

[BillWatson08]

Eudaemonium wrote...

It does surprise me that Zev isn't playing a role in Awakening, given that he's pretty-much the only character who will always accompany you irrespective of romantic involvement (unless he's dead).

I'm not sure what that means. Name me a character who won't accompany you?

[Alixen]

I too want to know how the endings will be handled in the expansion; many of them don't even have your Warden rebuilding. Most of them one of your allies sticks with you, most obviously Leli and Zev.



Potentially they are going to actually chnage the endings of the game so that instead of the sliders it automatically skips straight tot he expansion...?

[Eudaemonium]

BillWatson08 wrote...

Eudaemonium wrote...

It does surprise me that Zev isn't playing a role in Awakening, given that he's pretty-much the only character who will always accompany you irrespective of romantic involvement (unless he's dead).

I'm not sure what that means. Name me a character who won't accompany you?

*Epilogue Spoilers*

Shale doesn't, neither does Wynne, or Oghren as far as I am aware (though Awakening changes that, but only going by epilogue). You can accompany Sten (rather than the other way round, which is slightly different). Generally, if not romanced, Leliana will either go off to Orlais, lead an expedition to the Urn, or lead an expedition into the deep roads to discover things about darkspawn and broodmothers. If not romanced, at least on my games, she will tell you that this is her adventure. If Alistair is king he will not come travelling or return to the Wardens, generally (if you romance him he can run off with you anyway).

Zevran will, more or less, consistently go with you regardless of what you choose to do (stay in Denerim, return to the wardens, etc.), irrespective of whether he is romanced or just your friend. Whereas the others generally vary a lot depending on romantic involvement.

[Alixen]

So basicly even if you decide not to romance him; you can still have a bromance with him. Awesome. xD

[Caralampio]

How loyal does he have to be to not betray you, short of romancing him (I know it's just a game and stuff, but not my style). I talked to him until all conversations were exhausted, gave him a few gifts etc. I think I had him around 30, and he betrayed me.

Actually I hardly ever used him (Leliana was a better rogue for my purposes). Would rejecting him or killing him when he first can be recruited be advantageous in the sense of increasing the XP for the rest of the party (less people to share the points)? 

[sylvanaerie]

Caralampio wrote...

How loyal does he have to be to not betray you, short of romancing him (I know it's just a game and stuff, but not my style). I talked to him until all conversations were exhausted, gave him a few gifts etc. I think I had him around 30, and he betrayed me.

Actually I hardly ever used him (Leliana was a better rogue for my purposes). Would rejecting him or killing him when he first can be recruited be advantageous in the sense of increasing the XP for the rest of the party (less people to share the points)? 

Zev is one of the most loyal characters in the game.  Not only does he feel bound by the oath he freely took but if you make him a friend (you don't have to romance him), he will stay by your side following the events of the game.  He even asks if you want him to stay or go, abiding by whatever decision you want.  I don't know how you could have exausted all conversation and gifts for him and only been at 30 by that point in the game.  I found him funny and easy to talk to, one of the easier companions to travel with because there is little in the game he seems to disapprove of unlike some of the more polarized companions. I would get his approval over some of the oddest choices...though one disapprove I still don't understand.  He got a minus 5 when I gave Cailan a pyre at the end of Rt:O.  Anyone know why this might have been?

As for him betraying you, there is only one point I can think of if he is at all at a positive with you and thats at Taliesin's encounter.  And think about it.  If you don't get to know him and let him know you, who would he side with? Someone who he already knows and has at least considered a friend prior to you? or an unknown Warden who granted spared his life but he doesn't really know that well? 

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 19 février 2010 - 06:37 .

[Caralampio]

Yes, but I regularly spoke to all characters. Every time in camp and also while walking around. Zevran's conversation dried out the first time I chatted him up. He told me all about Antiva and all that, but when I told him he needn't bother with telling me that he fancied me, I never had other choices of conversation. Same with Sten, the only choice every time I chatted him up was, 1. Let's move on. I hardly ever took Sten or Zevran to missions, they were so boring and Sten gets angry with almost every choice I make (I tend to be a good guy ). Back to my question, would leaving a character you don't like out of the group give any advantage for the rest in the distribution of XP's?

[sylvanaerie]

On the XP thing no it really doesn't change the xp distribution (there doesn't seem to be a limited supply) NPCs left behind seem to level up as your PC does keeping the entire group at a similar level within one of each other.

[Daneres]

Caralampio wrote...

Yes, but I regularly spoke to all characters. Every time in camp and also while walking around. Zevran's conversation dried out the first time I chatted him up. He told me all about Antiva and all that, but when I told him he needn't bother with telling me that he fancied me, I never had other choices of conversation. Same with Sten, the only choice every time I chatted him up was, 1. Let's move on. I hardly ever took Sten or Zevran to missions, they were so boring and Sten gets angry with almost every choice I make (I tend to be a good guy ). Back to my question, would leaving a character you don't like out of the group give any advantage for the rest in the distribution of XP's?

Really? Low approval with Sten? I got 6's, 11's and even 16's from him. He was the character I got up to +100 approval with the quickest.