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[turtlecrunch]

Did Harbinger diss...himself?

I mean, if he's controlling the General...

[cevlako]

Collector apologist.

[MaaZeus]

Another sign of Reapers arrogance. Even if he was the one controlling them, he still blamed Collectors/Protheans weakness why their plans failed.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 15 février 2010 - 03:25 .

[Valmy]

I was thinking the same thing. I mean it is not like the Protheans were really working at full capacity being mindless slaves and all.

[Thezezeal]

I always thought that was meant to be Harbringer speaking to Shephard (either directly over a tannoy, or just indirectly/to himself), so it's "you've faile Shephard; we will find another way to get to the galaxy... You cannot stop us" sort of thing...

[T1l]

The "You have failed" was directed at Shepard, I thought.

[Haasth]

MaaZeus wrote...

Another sign of Reapers arrogance. Even if he was the one controlling them, he still blamed Collectors/Protheans weakness why their plans failed.

This pretty much. Or that is how I perceived it at least.
Regardless of Harbinger being the puppet master he throws the blame on his puppets. 

[turtlecrunch]

Thezezeal wrote...

I always thought that was meant to be Harbringer speaking to Shephard (either directly over a tannoy, or just indirectly/to himself), so it's "you've faile Shephard; we will find another way to get to the galaxy... You cannot stop us" sort of thing...

Ohhhh.

That makes considerably more sense.

Harbinger is so arrogant.  And chatty.

EDIT:

Haasth wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

Another
sign of Reapers arrogance. Even if he was the one controlling them, he
still blamed Collectors/Protheans weakness why their plans
failed.

This pretty much. Or that is how I perceived it at least.
Regardless of Harbinger being the puppet master he throws the blame on his puppets. 

Or this!


All is open to interpretation except the FACT that Harbinger is an arrogant chatty space-squid.

Modifié par turtlecrunch, 15 février 2010 - 03:31 .

[max_ai]

If it was directed at Shepard, then it's pretty stupid since Shepard hasn't failed!

[MaaZeus]

Haasth wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

Another sign of Reapers arrogance. Even if he was the one controlling them, he still blamed Collectors/Protheans weakness why their plans failed.

This pretty much. Or that is how I perceived it at least.
Regardless of Harbinger being the puppet master he throws the blame on his puppets. 

Precisely.

[TheShady]

Doesn't he also say something like "what you did here means nothing" or "you accomplished bollocks" in the same moment?

[CorvisRex]

Nope. Harbinger is the Reaper behind the collectors, not the head bug of the collectors. He is telling the collectors that they have failed. Funny since, like is said, they have no minds of their own...

[klossen4]

well either way shephard never failed though.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

No it was directed at the collector general because he was not indoctrinated. Remember Mordin said people get stupid when indoctrinated, you do not want a stupid general. He was most likely only slightly indoctrinated like saren was. The general had failed just like saren and the rachni had before and the reapers would try again.

[ODST 3]

That was sad when the General got incinerated. Freedom after years of enslavement only to be torched.

[Ulicus]

TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...

No it was directed at the collector general because he was not indoctrinated. Remember Mordin said people get stupid when indoctrinated, you do not want a stupid general. He was most likely only slightly indoctrinated like saren was. The general had failed just like saren and the rachni had before and the reapers would try again.

The Collector General was possessed by Harbinger throughout the entire game. That's several steps beyond indoctrination.

[Naltair]

He/it was directing the speech to Shepard.

[Zhijn]

That was an awesome moment!.

All thru out the game i to thought it was head-bug leader and then final moment you see the holo of a reaper. You have failed - releasing control, and that poor bug is like "finally". =P

Modifié par Zhijn, 15 février 2010 - 05:28 .

[WoodWizzard87]

Its either directed at Sheppard, but since Harbinger is controlling the general at the time, i thought it was just a big monologue to the audience "us", and a sign that the reapers are still coming.

[ruleonecardio]

That along with just about every line of dialogue that Harbinger says is directed at Shepard. I doubt that if you destroy an entire race of beings, re purpose them as controllable slaves, and mind control them to do what you want, that you will even bother to utter a single word to them, lol.

[RighteousRage]

The Reapers are just big teddy bears. I wanted to ask Sovereign if his parents knew he was gay at Virmire. Then mooned him possibly

[Lightice_av]

It's directed at the Collector General, or the Collectors in general (no pun intended). Presumably it still has some control over its actions, or else the Harbringer is unwilling to admit personal failure, and rather blames incompetent slaves.

[WoodWizzard87]

Lightice_av wrote...

It's directed at the Collector General, or the Collectors in general (no pun intended). Presumably it still has some control over its actions, or else the Harbringer is unwilling to admit personal failure, and rather blames incompetent slaves.

Its a monologue, talking about unstoppable bad the reapers are.  The collector general was still being controlled during the speech anyways.  They have no feelings anymore or brains, there just husks with cybernetics.

[SmilingMirror]

TheShady wrote...

Doesn't he also say something like "what you did here means nothing" or "you accomplished bollocks" in the same moment?

Yes, but that WAS directed at Shepherd....not that Shepherd was really listening lol. the camera was watching him as he was running off to the ship.

the "You have failed, we will find another way" thing was directed at the Collector general which was just a jerk thing to do. Note that the camera was looking at the collector general.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 15 février 2010 - 05:43 .