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[Sniper11709]

Operative84 wrote...

Yeah personally I'd like to wipe Cerberus out especially with the Adm Kahoku, Toombs, thresher maw experiments. You should be able to join up with Toombs and hunt TIM down put 2 in his head for good measure.

I do miss the feeling of becoming, like in ME1, when you became a Spectre it was reflected in your skills, the further you went the more elite you were, in ME2 I felt like we started from scratch(yeah I know 2 years, rebuilt), but even in the end I didnt have that sense of, yeah this dude is badass, and this team is elite, like I did in ME1.

I think the reason you probably don't get the feeling of being a bad ass at the end is because you don't start off with less skills then an FNG like in ME1.

[tyddrwsau]

In Mass Effect, I was a lot more engaged with the quests that uncovered what/who Cerberus is, dug into their secrets, and allowed me to thwart their wretched programs than I was with the main storyline. The Reapers are a completely alien force, millions of years old, that eradicate organic life because that's what they do. Fighting them is like fighting a virus, or a comet: a worthwhile effort against a force of nature. Cerberus on the other hand represents the horrible and even evil things that beings of free will can do. They're the wickedness within.



IRL, I'm often appalled by my government. My country has done some Seriously Bad Things. Our leaders often seem more motivated by keeping themselves and others with power in power. They hold interminable debates as to whether grave problems even exist or are a matter of concern, even problems that threaten the welfare of our citizens and the rest of the world. That's moved me to do many things. I've devoted myself to a life of service. I've worked with others to advocate, over many years, another cycle of reform to make things better and address these real problems. I've engaged in disobedience towards my government. In all of that, I've never even imagined giving my loyalty to a radical terrorist organization.



I enjoy dark, morally complicated stories. They get to the root of the challenges and decisions we all must make. I've roleplayed a number of antiheroes and villains before to tell such stories through games. I do not like Mass Effect 2 giving us, the players, no choice but to be the lapdogs of the Illusive Man, who jump when he says "Jump!" either gladly or with feeble resignation. Had they given us the option of feeding all the information we found about the Collector threat, and Cerberus, to our choice of the Citadel Council (support the galactic community, interstellar civilization) or the Systems Alliance (support human civilization) - that alone could have been different. Whether those governments acted on our intel, we could show our colors and undermine TIM if we chose.



The hardest part, for me, was trying to identify with the core crew of the Normandy, especially the returning cast. Joker? "You died saving my life after I refused to obey an evacuation order. After that, I joined a terrorist organization so that I could still fly spaceships and act like a self-important hotshot, whoo! Let me tell you a joke now, aren't I funny?" Dr. Chakwas? "I didn't like being stuck at a desk job, so I signed on with the radical prohumanist organization that tries to turn children into Supersoldiers and conducts terribly unethical experiments on fellow humans and alien sapients!" I guess flying in a spaceship and the thrill of doing combat surgery is more important to her than her Hippocratic Oath. Good to know.

[DarthFrylock007]

tyddrwsau wrote...

Dr. Chakwas? "I didn't like being stuck at a desk job, so I signed on with the radical prohumanist organization that tries to turn children into Supersoldiers and conducts terribly unethical experiments on fellow humans and alien sapients!" I guess flying in a spaceship and the thrill of doing combat surgery is more important to her than her Hippocratic Oath. Good to know.

Except Dr. Chakwas didn't sign on to work for Cerberus, she did it to work for Shepard.

For everyone complaining about how their paragon Shep would never work with Cerberus, here's something to consider.  What would you prefer, Shepard thwarting a couple of small Cerberus projects, costing them maybe a few million credits while completely ignoring the Reaper threat in order to stick it to TIM?  "Yeah, who cares about impending galactic extinction, I'm Paragon Shep and I would rather see the universe burn and go back to being dead than accept a state-of-the-art warship that could help save the galaxy.  Quickly Dr. Chakwas, I'll lay down suppressing fire, you go get the bad guys drunk!  Joker, as soon as they're drunk you'll go in and break your arm at them!"

Wouldn't it make more sense for Shepard to bide his/her time, deal with the immediate Collector/Reaper threat before finally sticking to TIM at the end, thereby saving untold trillions of lives while costing Cerberus hundreds of billions of credits in the process (which in turn significantly hurts TIM's ability to do all those evil things in the future)?  My paragon, sole survivor femShep hates Cerberus and has zero trust in TIM, but puts her own personal feelings aside for the greater good, namely saving the entire galaxy (even the precious Council who can do no wrong - except, you know, when they do wrong) from extinction.

Plus, you do all realize that this is only the middle act of the trilogy?  Who's to say you won't get a chance to destroy Cerberus in ME 3?  All this talk of "Oh, this isn't a true sequel" is frankly ridiculous.  You still play as Shepard, the protagonist of the series, do you not?  And the Reapers are still the big bad, are they not?

[noobzor99]

DarthFrylock007 wrote...
 And the Reapers are still the big bad, are they not?

Umm, seeing as there was b:bandit:arely reference to the reapers during the game, I'd say the Collectors are definitely the main villians in ME2


My paragon shep worked with cerberus, though it would have been nice to have at least SOME arguement before I agreed to help them...