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[Habelo]

So what was the right choice with the council? Saving em and letting them die?

When i played in ME2 and saving em it feelt like all the races was taking advantage of the humans weakness cause we sacrificed ourselves to save the destiny acsension.

Or was i just wrong to choice Andersson instead of Udina?

Any clarification, is the result set in stone as wether it was right or wrong?

Edit: Seems like we all can agree that choosing Udina was a pure bad choice, since he seems like a narcassist and do not help Shepard while Andersson does.

And im currently leaning towards saving the council as the better option...
And do anyone know if the killing the council in the first game makes the next council be all humans or multi-racial?

And for those of you thinking wether it is tactical or not (i know that i did in some way, thread has opened my eyes thought)

Barquiel wrote...

tactical...there is no right/wrong
decision

- Shep has no information to make the decision
- no
tactical training (he is no naval commander)

Commander
Shepard issues his/her "orders"...and Hackett agrees.
I think Admiral
Hackett would object if one choice (concentrate on Sovereign/or not)
makes no sense.
"Thank you for your opinion Commander, but..."
He
has experience + tactical data.

My fav post on this whole thread (if everyone thought like this the world would be a better place):

Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

As far as saving the Council
goes, soldiers have value to me--politicians do not. A soldier is
trained and willing to step between his people and a threat and take the
bullets for people who don't even know him.  I wouldn't spend one extra
soldier to "save the Council". The lives of allied soldiers, sure. But
self-important functionaries? They're like bugs. Kick over a rock and
you can scoop up a whole new council.

Modifié par Habelo, 24 avril 2010 - 11:34 .

[Alanosborn1991]

Saving them, no matter how stupid they may be. We all need to come together in a diverse group to stop the Reapers.



Not saving them results in everyone thinking humans are racist, and all human council wont even speak to Shephard.



Not even reinstating his Spectreness

[Alanosborn1991]

Also Udina is a Sith Lord in disguise

[Sanlan]

Letting them dies means you lose out on the weapon merchant on the Citadel's dialogue about hunting. Which is enough to make it the wrong decision.

[addiction21]

I would go with letting die since they were jerks and never shared their waffles with me

[PingoBlack]

Human council causes turians to arm up like nuts, starting a neat little cold war with humans ...



I prefer idiot turian councilor to that ... Sad but true.

[CorvushatesEA]

I dont know. The Turian counsilor's airquotes almost justify me doing another ME1 playthrough just to let him get 'sploded.

[abisha]

better have 6 alien concil members then 3 Udina's

[addiction21]

CorvushatesEA wrote...

I dont know. The Turian counsilor's airquotes almost justify me doing another ME1 playthrough just to let him get 'sploded.

You could just do a default new game. Of course there is a certain satisfaction in cutting of the council in the first game

[10 Steps Back]

Technically there is no right or wrong.



Save them and the council races ease up on humanity they treat them as equals and past hostilities have been put aside (iirc turians giving reparations to humans on Shanxi). It also creates a more stable and unified alliance within the coucil races.



Let them die and you ensure that humanity is the leading group, giving the humanity position and power but unlike when saving the council this would cause distrust by the other races there isn't any unity among races.

[DarthCaine]

Saving them

[ColonelAutumn]

I always let them die. Theyre just a bunch of idiots and its not worth to save 3 idiots and sacrifice many (human) lives for it. Actually there had been moments where I wanted to kill those douches myself lol. And I dont care what aliens on the citadel think about my decision, because its my decision and I think its right.

[SparksX]

ColonelAutumn wrote...

I always let them die. Theyre just a bunch of idiots and its not worth to save 3 idiots and sacrifice many (human) lives for it. Actually there had been moments where I wanted to kill those douches myself lol. And I dont care what aliens on the citadel think about my decision, because its my decision and I think its right.

there are actually about 10.000 people (mostly asari) on the destiny ascention...It's more then 3 people you save

[Spazticus]

xabiton wrote...

good question. I have 2 saves and on the 1st I let them die the 2nd I let them live. Right now I am on my first play through of Me 2 and it seems the best choice was to let them live and pick Anderson to represent the humans

That, and Udina = Fail. You can't get your Spectre status back if Udina has any say. Whether or not you want to be a Spectre again, it's another tool in your arsenal, and he denies you the chance to use it.
Back to the OP: I saved the Council in most of my games. They do state they can't openly aid you, despite what you've done for them, but to put that much faith in one individual would be a tough choice for any politician. Ask yourself if you'd risk hundreds of billions of lives, due to a war in the Terminus Systems, on the word of one person. The most pragmatic among us would want more proof; wouldn't you, too?

Modifié par Spazticus, 15 février 2010 - 06:33 .

[bulkhead]

www.masseffectsaves.com



if you want to change things but dont want to replay the whole game

has a bunch of different save files

[Giantevilhead]

Concentrating on Sovereign was the right choice. You had no way of knowing if Sovereign could even be killed. Defeating Sovereign was far more important than saving the Council and the Destiny Ascension.

[Wolfehunter]

Stick by the choices you make.. There is no right or wrong...

[FlashedMyDrive]

ColonelAutumn wrote...

I always let them die. Theyre just a bunch of idiots and its not worth to save 3 idiots and sacrifice many (human) lives for it. Actually there had been moments where I wanted to kill those douches myself lol. And I dont care what aliens on the citadel think about my decision, because its my decision and I think its right.

10,000 lives vs 2,400 human lives.


You save more than the council.

[Nyaore]

Giantevilhead wrote...

Concentrating on Sovereign was the right choice. You had no way of knowing if Sovereign could even be killed. Defeating Sovereign was far more important than saving the Council and the Destiny Ascension.

In the short term, concentrating on Sovereign was indeed the best choice to make. However in a long term sense saving the Council truly is the best choice if you want all the council races to be more 'united' as it causes people to view humanity in a much more positive light. Where as leaving the Council to die causes humans to be viewed in an even more suspicious light than before, and breeds discontent between the races. (Which wouldn't be the best thing to have happen if you're going to eventually unite them all against the Reapers.)
It all just depends upon how you look at it.

[Kusy]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

Also Udina is a Sith Lord in disguise

This. Letting the counsil die (especialy choosing the "Let them die" dialogue option) is wrong, at lest for me. Killing the council kills the political stability in known universe. In the long run I'm sure it would lead to civil wars and conflicts... Batarians already are not peacefully disposed towards the Citedel species, they hate humans and if humans would get to rule the majority of civilised systems the conflict defenetly would escalate at some point. We all know how Volus feel about Humans getting a seat in the counsil, they would also snap after few years of human domination... and they are closely alied with Turians.

Killing off the council gives more space to operate for people like The Illusive Man. And that's a bad thing.

[Braag]

Don't you get your spectre status back only if you save them? Because that helped me out couple times in ME2.

[Kusy]

On the other hand - the first time I played I did let them die, but not because I hated them - because I didn't know that Sov could be killed either way.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

I always saved them merely because I thought the Ascension was more important than a few human ships.

Glad to see I was right. The Ascension has a crew of about 10,000 and you only lose 8 human ships equaling about 2,400 lives. Saving the Council for me had nothing to do with actually saving the Council. Plus, I still think it's tactically superior to send your forces in to assist while your enemy is distracted, instead of just floating there in space letting themregroup to attack you as you ignore them for Sovereign.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 15 février 2010 - 06:55 .

[Ferocious7]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

Also Udina is a Sith Lord in disguise

this made me LOL     my fav part of ME1.. well besides fem shep / liara romance was when Anderson knocked Udina out.  That walk in the office you knew what was up.... Anderson is one of my favorite npc's just bcuz he always believes in you and has your back.   It's like having a boss that gives you a raise for coming into work late.   Just cool as ****.