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[Bigdoser]

You can either gamble and hope that you still defeat the reaper even if you save the council and get a better pay off later on or don't take that risk and take out the reaper quickly before it destorys everything. There is no right choice.

[kraidy1117]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Indeed. You get a stable galaxy... that refuses to believe in the Reapers.

The human council is no better, in fact with the human council, other races want to attack humans. Saving the council was the right choice.

[Dean_the_Young]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Indeed. You get a stable galaxy... that refuses to believe in the Reapers.

The human council is no better, in fact with the human council, other races want to attack humans. Saving the council was the right choice.

Actually, the human council is better: the other races distrust humans, but will fall in line when the Reapers come. In the meantime, they are militarizing, and that's the bigger priority to favor galactic survival. You can  either needlessly risk the galaxy to have your stable galaxy that refuses to prepare to fight, or can do your job and protect the galaxy to the utmost of your ability, and let it prepare for the inevitable war.

A stable, peaceful, complacent galaxy is the worst thing possible for when the Reapers arrive. Stability is nice, but what's more important is that all species prepare themselves for war.

[kraidy1117]

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The human council is no better, in fact with the human council, other races want to attack humans. Saving the council was the right choice.

A few angry protesters does not constitute an attack on humanity.

Listen to the news. It says that the Turrians are making more Dreadnaughts, the treaty is no longer effective, the Asari won't help humans and the Salarians said "the humans decided to take pwoer, they need to learn how to use it"

Saving the council is smarter. Humans are not ready to lead something like the council, that is showen very well in ME2.

[kraidy1117]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Indeed. You get a stable galaxy... that refuses to believe in the Reapers.

The human council is no better, in fact with the human council, other races want to attack humans. Saving the council was the right choice.

Actually, the human council is better: the other races distrust humans, but will fall in line when the Reapers come. In the meantime, they are militarizing, and that's the bigger priority to favor galactic survival. You can  either needlessly risk the galaxy to have your stable galaxy that refuses to prepare to fight, or can do your job and protect the galaxy to the utmost of your ability, and let it prepare for the inevitable war.

A stable, peaceful, complacent galaxy is the worst thing possible for when the Reapers arrive. Stability is nice, but what's more important is that all species prepare themselves for war.

[Sand King]

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The human council is no better, in fact with the human council, other races want to attack humans. Saving the council was the right choice.

A few angry protesters does not constitute an attack on humanity.

Avina mentions race riots and attacks on humans if you let the council die.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Humans are not ready to lead something like the council, that is showen very well in ME2.

The Council isn't ready to lead something like the Council.  That is shown very well in ME1.

[kraidy1117]

Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Humans are not ready to lead something like the council, that is showen very well in ME2.

The Council isn't ready to lead something like the Council.  That is shown very well in ME1.

They do a better job then the human council.

[Bigdoser]

This is just speculation but don't you think that the turians are preparing for civil war if the council died in me1.

[jgomezish]

The reason I chose to keep the council alive was that it was in reality it would be in humanity's best interest. I figured if you were to suddenly have an all human council other races would be absolutely pissed and it would mean a hell of a lot more if humanity proved that they can earn a seat in the council.

[kraidy1117]

Bigdoser wrote...

This is just speculation but don't you think that the turians are preparing for civil war if the council died in me1.

They are, this is made clear in alot oft he news annoucments.

[Sand King]

Shandepared wrote...

Sand King wrote...

Avina mentions race riots and attacks on humans if you let the council die.

Yeah, which isn't terribly important in the grand scheme of things.

Yes Aliens killing Humans because they are Humans isn't important

[kraidy1117]

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

They are, this is made clear in alot oft he news annoucments.

No threat of civil war is mentioned, just a build-up. It's to try and curb human power however there won't be a war. The perfect time for them to attack us was when we first took power. The longer they wait the stronger we get and they know it. A war against humanity would be too costly for them to bother.

Turriens are building more dreadnaughts, a war is going to happen because you decided to let over 10,000 people die including the council to destroy a Reaper, they still defeat the Reaper no matter what because of Shepard. As my fav Turien says in ME2

"YOU HUMANS ARE ALL RACIST!"

[kraidy1117]

Shandepared wrote...

Sand King wrote...

Yes Aliens killing Humans because they are Humans isn't important

Indeed, a few pissed off rioters on the Citadel are not something to worry about. Relationships with the governments are still civil and that is all that matters.

Again you are wrong, Turiens and humans are not civil, the Salarians want nothing to do with humans and the Asari have turned there back on them. I swear you guys shoud listen to the new anoucments.

[Sand King]

Shandepared wrote...

Sand King wrote...

Yes Aliens killing Humans because they are Humans isn't important

Indeed, a few pissed off rioters on the Citadel are not something to worry about. Relationships with the governments are still civil and that is all that matters.

So as long as the politicians get a long there’s no problem with people pointlessly killing each other

[kraidy1117]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
They are, this is made clear in alot oft he news annoucments.

No threat of civil war is mentioned, just a build-up. It's to try and curb human power however there won't be a war. The perfect time for them to attack us was when we first took power. The longer they wait the stronger we get and they know it. A war against humanity would be too costly for them to bother.

Turriens are building more dreadnaughts, a war is going to happen because you decided to let over 10,000 people die including the council to destroy a Reaper, they still defeat the Reaper no matter what because of Shepard. As my fav Turien says in ME2

"YOU HUMANS ARE ALL RACIST!"

You know what happens in ME2 if you saved the council in ME1?

You get a 30 second hologram of the council. That is what the difference is.

No the diffrence is that the humans are more resepcted, the council is more stable then the Human council and it's not 30 seconds, I did not skip the whole thing.  If you listened to the new ancouments instead of rushing the game you would know saving the council was better then letting them die.

[Sand King]

kraidy1117 wrote...

No the diffrence is that the humans are more resepcted, the council is more stable then the Human council and it's not 30 seconds, I did not skip the whole thing.  If you listened to the new ancouments instead of rushing the game you would know saving the council was better then letting them die.

This

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

kraidy1117 wrote...

They do a better job then the human council.

I must have missed that part.  What I did notice was an iron-fisted oligarchy that will make sentient races wait millenia for any representation.  I also noticed an obdurate refusal to accept anything that upset their political status quo, regardless of the evidence at hand.  When governing, sins of omission are every bit as damning as sins of commission.

The uprising at the human-dominated Council isn't a reflection of the Council's competence--it's a reflection of other races protesting Humanity's rapid rise into a position of power.

The only two observably competent people in the story's setting so far appear to be Shepard and TIM (with Shepard's competence extending to anyone standing next to him with a gun drawn).  There's really no way to compare how competent either Council is, because we really don't see much governing.  We know the alien members are dumber than a bag of hammers.  We know Udina is also blind and self-serving.  I'm tempted to conclude that every politician in this setting is a de facto waste of oxygen (or ammonia).