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[Feraele]

Kalledon wrote...

Aside from the fact that we paid BioWare to have the items in our game. A lot of people use the DLC equipment for their characters. Just because you find Wade's Dargonbone and Juggernaught better then Cailan's or Warden Commander doesn't mean others won't. Not to mention people might have playthroughs where they weren't using those armors because they used the DLC and got rid of it. So even if they didn't have a problem with switching to non DLC armor, they can't.

Agreed...we paid for the dlc and dlc content ...gear and weapons constitute part of that content.

[Feraele]

Arbiter Libera wrote...

Yes, you paid for them... I don't see any mention that BioWare is taking them from you so you can't use them in DA:O. Awakening is a whole different matter. And, as it has been mentioned NUMEROUS times around, you'll get BETTER gear in Awakening because you'll have to get better gear given that it also raises the level cap.

Well my arcane warrior is going to lose both Winter's breath staff, and Starfang.

They better be standing at the door handing out weapons when I enter Awakening.

[Walina]

Viktarion wrote...

 There is plenty of strong gear in DAO even without DLCs.

Wade dragonbone plate armor is still strongest in game with corruption its even more awsome 75% resistance to both fire and spirit + it looks nice as a set.

As for weapons theres the keening blade and imperial sword which are both very powerfull and cool looking weapons (in my opinion shining weapons like starfang and maric sword are worse looking then dwin sword on which they are based upon)

Anyway i doubt anyone will start naked even if you were foolish enough to throw away juggernaut and wade set (which will be usefull even later in expansion  thx to resistances).

Calians gear is already worn by Allister , as it should be since he is the logical inheritor even if you dont have RTO and i am positive there will be some sort of Grey warden special weapons and armor since you are the commander and all, and order is being rebuilt in Ferelden.

That's has nothing to do with which one ine better equipements, dlc or normal ?

The problem in REAL money spended on DLC or on box collector!
Maybe for many of you who don't value money 3$ or 5$ is bargain but for some not and I am one of them.
Because since the DLC stories have 0 impact on the main plot, I would've expected at least keep the items to feel a bit satisfied to have paid for DLC.

Also, don't come brag about Bioware has tigh budget when they go all around the world telling people how much amazing money they made!

[Kwanzaabot]

The thing I don't like about this whole "no old companions and no DLC gear" thing with Awakening, is that it could've been easily fixed by having Awakening be a quest only accessible in a post-campaign save. I mean, it seems like most of the voice actors are reprising their roles, so it's not like new dialogue would've been a problem.

Hell, Amaranthine is on the east coast of Ferelden, so the expansion's even going to be using the same map.

[Kakimori]

Maria Caliban wrote...

BioWare is abandoning the traditions of RPGs by letting us carry any gear into the expansions. Every expansion and sequel should begin with your character stripped of all his or her loot, losing their memory, and having to fight their way through a dungeon in their underwear.

If it was good enough for BG 2, it's good enough for Awakening.

If you had a BG1 save, you could find some of your equipment in Irenicus' dungeon.  Never mind the fact that Awakening is an EXPANSION, not a whole new game.  I seem to recall retaining my equipment in Throne of Bhaal...but perhaps you could correct me?

Modifié par Kakimori, 17 février 2010 - 10:48 .

[ComTrav]

Maedryc wrote...


For me it's more a matter of principle, actually. That's why I'll still feel cheated even when I'm decked in t15 stardragonbone armor. See, I kept my Quel' Serrar and my breastplate of Wrath in my bank until I froze my WoW account last summer. I value the items I've acquired, especially if they have a nice skin or are somehow connected to a quest/plot (or, in the case of my Breastplate of Wrath, when they have some kind of sentimental value).

This is funny, I kept my Benediction/Anathema basically FOREVER.

But I think most people have a problem with it on principle; they paid for/earned the gear, they should keep it.

IMO, it would hurt a lot more if there were mage robes in DLC. Losing massive armor sets doesn't hurt too bad. I'll be sad to lose 2h Starfang, but all the new warrior talents will make up for it.

It does hurt that I can't go back after my 'endgame save' to non-DLC areas. So if on my first playthrough I didn't get (say) the Keys to the City, or Juggernaut armor, and I want them for the expansion, I'll need to play through those sections and the final battle.

[BewareTheDrow]

Dethanos wrote...

Wolfaura wrote...

They'll prob add new dlc that they'd want ppl to buy so that they can make more money. EA seems to be a money grabber. Always adding extra dlc so you spend more.

As I said in another thread, if THAT was their plan, they have failed miserably. I'm done buying DLC, and I know I'm not the only one. You never get enough content to justify the price, and if the equipment doesn't even carry-over, screw it.

Agreed. People wonder why I cheer for software piracy, this is why. The developers and distributors can screw the customer at will, only way to screw them back is with your wallet.

[Skilled Seeker]

Dragonbone is NOT the strongest armour in the game. For your information none of my characters are wearing it and I sold it the moment I acquired it. Warden Commander, King Cailen's and Legion of the Dead are all superior sets to name some.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 17 février 2010 - 12:20 .

[Feraele]

_000Darkstar wrote...

Vuokseniska wrote...

meh those crybabies are forgetting that when they hit lvl 35 they have better armor anyway... but that doesn't go into their thick skull. Besides the DLC isn't for the items it is for the gameplay/story mostly

Exactly. Because the DLC's have SOOOOO much meaningful story to them.  <_<

Well being that my highest warden is level 23..thats going to take SOME doing..specially my mage/AW with no Starfang, and no Winter's Breath staff.   

Level 23 to level 35...guess I'll die a few times til I find a darkspawn minus willpower staff to fight the good fight with eh?

[Ichaerus1]

Kakimori wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

BioWare is abandoning the traditions of RPGs by letting us carry any gear into the expansions. Every expansion and sequel should begin with your character stripped of all his or her loot, losing their memory, and having to fight their way through a dungeon in their underwear.

If it was good enough for BG 2, it's good enough for Awakening.

If you had a BG1 save, you could find some of your equipment in Irenicus' dungeon.  Never mind the fact that Awakening is an EXPANSION, not a whole new game.  I seem to recall retaining my equipment in Throne of Bhaal...but perhaps you could correct me?

No, you're correct.  In BG2: ToB, you got to keep your gear(I had all the dragon armor sets, for starters, as well as the nifty frost axe and dragonslayer sword).  It was also the same way in the first NWN(the one by Bioware, not Obsidian), where you could import a character with his swag into the expansions.

[nicodeemus327]

So, I'm gonna be naked?

[Akimb0]

lisakover wrote...

There is no time consuming difference, people are licking Bioware's boots and making excuses for them.

This. It's why I rarely bother posting on these forums any more.

[Beczy]

oh great and I only read about this an hour after I bought the DLCs :S

Don't see how hard it is to enable these items to be carried over for the people who have them... or if they are worried about making the early parts of the game trivial, include the DLC in the expansion and scale the encounters accordingly.

besides they said they are plannign 2 years of DLC support for the game, how is that gonna work out then? all the stuff after the expansion comes out will magically start working with it or you can only use them with the original as well. slap in the face

[Divine Justinia V]

 As many people have answered, we basically paid for those weapons/armor/etc.. The fact that we are not able to import what we paid for is a little frustrating. However, I am a huge fan of DA so I won't let that get in the way of my purchasing DA:O-A. 

[Kwanzaabot]

Beczy wrote...

...besides they said they are plannign 2 years of DLC support for the game, how is that gonna work out then? all the stuff after the expansion comes out will magically start working with it or you can only use them with the original as well. slap in the face

This.
Honestly, I don't get what Bioware is trying to accomplish with this plan. So, we'll get say, 6 months to a year of DLC that's compatible with Awakening, then the next expansion comes out, and then all of THAT stuff is incompatible with Awakening?
Who knows, maybe they'll release a compatibility patch for people with Awakening and the current DLC (which is to say, pretty much everyone).
And by "they", I mean "modders".

I mean, it's the same game, is it not? Awakening even needs Origins to run. So all the resources for the original will be there, and Awakening will have the ability to access it. So, it's all theoretically compatible.

Modifié par Kwanzaabot, 17 février 2010 - 10:02 .

[ExperimentBM]

Viktarion wrote...

 There is plenty of strong gear in DAO even without DLCs.

Wade dragonbone plate armor is still strongest in game with corruption its even more awsome 75% resistance to both fire and spirit + it looks nice as a set.

As for weapons theres the keening blade and imperial sword which are both very powerfull and cool looking weapons (in my opinion shining weapons like starfang and maric sword are worse looking then dwin sword on which they are based upon)

Anyway i doubt anyone will start naked even if you were foolish enough to throw away juggernaut and wade set (which will be usefull even later in expansion  thx to resistances).

Calians gear is already worn by Allister , as it should be since he is the logical inheritor even if you dont have RTO and i am positive there will be some sort of Grey warden special weapons and armor since you are the commander and all, and order is being rebuilt in Ferelden.

Some of the items held sentimental value; like having the Warden's Armor was nice.
The main reason why not having the DLC items carry over in Awakening is a problem is I paid for the DLC and to have the expansion exclude only DLC items makes me regret ever buying DLC.