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[Maria Caliban]

Yes, I'm out of the loop.

However, in what world is this the music video of the year? Whomever nominated it must have been drunk and whomever voted for it high. It's literally just a video of three women dancing. That's it! I understand that dancing takes a great deal of skill and talent, but common.

Anyways, the video.

Do you think it's Music Video of the Year material?

[Servant of Nature]

I much preferred it in Glee, I can't listen to that song without laughing, now. Entire football team dancing to that song. Glorious.

PS: No, it's a terrible music video but anything Beyonce touches is gold to them music industry.

Modifié par Servant of Nature, 16 octobre 2009 - 08:41 .

[Maria Caliban]

Servant of Nature wrote...

I much preferred it in Glee, I can't listen to that song without laughing, now. Entire football team dancing to that song. Glorious.

Can you explain what you mean here? 

[Deviija]

She means this. It was amusing.

[the_one_54321]

i dont think that music videos ever are worth an award these days. so that makes the point pretty much moot in my book.

[Servant of Nature]

Deviija wrote...

She means this. It was amusing.

Thank you, Devi <3

[Deviija]

You're welcome! 

[Maria Caliban]

Deviija wrote...

She means this. It was amusing.

That's interesting. What is that from?

the_one_54321 wrote...

i dont think that music videos ever are worth an award these days. so that makes the point pretty much moot in my book.

Yes, but surely there were a few that were better than that? It's like MTV didn't even try.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:05 .

[Sheryl Chee]

Er. Is the gist of the song essentially: "I broke up with you because you didn't marry me"? Really? Really?

Modifié par Sheryl Chee, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:11 .

[Servant of Nature]

Maria: It's from a new TV show on Fox called "Glee", about a high school group that does singing and dancing routines, great music, but also very funny.



Honestly I'm so far out of the loop otherwise, I don't even know why some things are popular to begin with. I like a few of Beyonce's songs but it's not anything special, to me. Music Videos are sometimes really beautiful, but most of the time they just seem a way to cram in as much booty shots and grinding as possible in a 3 minute clip.

[flem1]

I'm shocked, shocked that there's no rickrolling on this thread.

[Mistress9Nine]

Everyone knows Britney should've won the whole thing.

Oooh this thread is perfect for me to rant about how bad Taylor Swift's music vidoe is. So here's the deal:

1. She sings about not being the "pretty girl" that she wears jeans and shirts as opposed to the guy's girlfriend who's the cheer captain. Here's the problem Taylor: at the climax of the vid you're wearing a white prom dress (and probably high heels, which you sing about not wearing) that probably cost more then all the cheerleaders clothes combined! Contradict much?

2. That guy is a douchebag. He's the alpha male, football captain, hot jock, etc of the school. However he's too shy to tell her his feelings? BULL! And BTW if he had that "I Love You" note all along than why did he only show it once Taylor transfomed into the beatiful princess-like girl? Because he's a shallow moron who only cares about appearances that's why!

3...I could go on until about 7 at the last count but I'm too tired to rant much now. Maybe I'll update this later.

Oh yeah and I think the red dress is so much better then the white one...

"Sheryl Chee wrote...

Er. Is the gist of the song essentially: "I broke up with you because you didn't marry me"? Really? Really?"

Isn't it more like: "I broke up with you cause you didn't think we had a future together and unless you change your mind you have no reason to be jelous." ?

Modifié par Mistress9Nine, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:14 .

[the_one_54321]

meh. if she wanted him so bad then she should have just put on the darn skirt and high heels.

[Maria Caliban]

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Er. Is the gist of the song essentially: "I broke up with you because you didn't marry me"? Really? Really?

According to wikipedia, the song is popular because of its catchy beat and themes of female empowerment.

[SpankyV]

flem1 wrote...

I'm shocked, shocked that there's no rickrolling on this thread.

Must...resist....link....

[Servant of Nature]

Maria Caliban wrote...

According to wikipedia, the song is popular because of its catchy beat and themes of female empowerment.

Oh.  Obviously. <_<

[the_one_54321]

out of curiosity, how is it not conveying female empowerment?

[Servant of Nature]

the_one_54321 wrote...

out of curiosity, how is it not conveying female empowerment?

Sorry.  The message of the song is some what empowering, I guess(don't stick with someone not willing to commit fully?).  The message loses a lot of meaning to me with her dancing around with her butt hanging out, slapping her ass, and having a Terminator hand.

[the_one_54321]

i havent seen the video so i dont know. i dont watch music videos anymore.



but isnt being "hawt," or perhaps "desirable" is the term im looking for, also empowering in a way?

[Maria Caliban]

Mistress9Nine wrote...

Everyone knows Britney should've won the whole thing.

As I understand it, Britney has a stomach and so is no longer worthy of attention.

Oooh this thread is perfect for me to rant about how bad Taylor Swift's music vidoe is. So here's the deal:

1. She sings about not being the "pretty girl" that she wears jeans and shirts as opposed to the guy's girlfriend who's the cheer captain. Here's the problem Taylor: at the climax of the vid you're wearing a white prom dress (and probably high heels, which you sing about not wearing) that probably cost more then all the cheerleaders clothes combined! Contradict much?

2. That guy is a douchebag. He's the alpha male, football captain, hot jock, etc of the school. However he's too shy to tell her his feelings? BULL! And BTW if he had that "I Love You" note all along than why did he only show it once Taylor transfomed into the beatiful princess-like girl? Because he's a shallow moron who only cares about appearances that's why!

I’ve never seen the video, but the lyrics to the song itself are also problematic. I dislike that it contrasts traditional feminine markers ‘high heels’ with traditional masculine markers ‘sneakers’ and implies that the latter is inherently superior. Then it goes ‘She’s cheer captain and I’m on the bleachers.’ Now there’s nothing *wrong* with being on the bleachers, but being cheer captain doesn’t just happen. It take work and effort, something that sitting on the bleachers does not require. If the two, yes, I think cheer captain is the more desirable state.

In fact, the entire song is based on the idea that a passive woman is more attractive than one that does something.

Next off, Sk8ter Boy, a song that chastises women for judging men on SEL, while utterly judging men on how much money and fame they have.

[Amberyl Ravenclaw]

On to the subject at hand, I'm at a loss for possessing insight into the whims and fancies of the music industry - and the awards it dishes out - ever since Soulja Boy was nominated for a Grammy for doing nothing other than bellowing "CRAAANK DAT" and "YOOOOU" ad nauseum on a track. And when Lil' Wayne actually won four Grammys, and one of the winning songs was a braggadacio-filled boast recited in monotone over an even more annoying beat, and the other essentially about having a woman [censor]-ing his [censor], I've abandoned all hope ever since.  These days I don't even pretend to understand what's going on, I just don't.

Modifié par Amberyl Ravenclaw, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:39 .

[Maria Caliban]

the_one_54321 wrote...

i havent seen the video so i dont know. i dont watch music videos anymore.

but isnt being "hawt," or perhaps "desirable" is the term im looking for, also empowering in a way?

If only there was a link to the video in this very thread...

No, being hawt is not empowering. That's like saying that being white or being over six foot is empowering. Empowerment has nothing to do whether a random dude on the street thinks your ass looks fine in tight jeans.

[the_one_54321]

Maria Caliban wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

i havent seen the video so i dont know. i dont watch music videos anymore.

but isnt being "hawt," or perhaps "desirable" is the term im looking for, also empowering in a way?

If only there was a link to the video in this very thread...

No, being hawt is not empowering. That's like saying that being white or being over six foot is empowering. Empowerment has nothing to do whether a random dude on the street thinks your ass looks fine in tight jeans.

strictly speaking, i dont see how being able to turn heads does not afford you some power.

keep in mind, that is strictly speeking, and not a statement of personal belief.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:43 .

[Red Viking]

I'm really happy for this thread and I'm gonna let it finish, but Taylor Swift had the best music video of all time!

[Snoteye]

Beyonce has one of the best videos of all time. One of the best videos of all time!

Maria Caliban wrote...

It's like MTV didn't even try.

Try what? They haven't aired music on that channel for years.

[Edit]
Blast it, I got beaten!

Modifié par Snoteye, 16 octobre 2009 - 09:48 .