Honestly I am split, I have no preference. I like MaleShep as main simply because I am male and reflect myself on the character, with that said Meer´s voicework is very "matter of fact" while Hale did FemShep more dynamic. Crew interactions are better with FemShep, particulary flirting and the like, MaleShep when flirting is bascily "So...uh...wanna do it?" while FemShep puts on a smirk and goes all mystic and oblivious without being impossible.
But I really believe the script is written for MaleShep and then you add a few instances for FemShep, like the Batarian recruiter on Omega.
Femshep...
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 10:56
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You've unleashed the monster, OP. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
I'm getting out of here while I still can.
*runs for the door*
I'm getting out of here while I still can.
*runs for the door*
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 10:57
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Doing the Krogan headbutt with a girl is all i asked for in life...
Also, Hale is amazing...
Also, Hale is amazing...
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 10:58
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Gyroscopic_Trout wrote...
One of my favorite scenes was the one where Shepard is drinking with Doctor Chakwas; but only if it's femShep. With Jennifer Hale, it actually sounds like two old friends getting plastered and reminiscing about old times; but Mark Meer delivers his lines with that same emotionless monotone, and it sounds like he's just been studying the doc drinking the whole time. Creepy.
That was pretty much my favorite dialog in the game as a femShep. Have not heard it as a male.
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Gyroscopic_Trout wrote...
One of my favorite scenes was the one where Shepard is drinking with Doctor Chakwas; but only if it's femShep. With Jennifer Hale, it actually sounds like two old friends getting plastered and reminiscing about old times; but Mark Meer delivers his lines with that same emotionless monotone, and it sounds like he's just been studying the doc drinking the whole time. Creepy.
I think both maleShep and femShep sound monotone. FemShep doesn't sound any less monotone than maleShep. The funny thing is, that when maleShep I don't bother, it doesn't feel misfit. MaleShep just sounds like a typical commander, nothing wrong with that. But when Jennifer Hale uses the same low and monotone voice style as Mark Meer (most of the times she does), it sounds weird.
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Gyroscopic_Trout wrote...
One of my favorite scenes was the one where Shepard is drinking with Doctor Chakwas; but only if it's femShep. With Jennifer Hale, it actually sounds like two old friends getting plastered and reminiscing about old times; but Mark Meer delivers his lines with that same emotionless monotone, and it sounds like he's just been studying the doc drinking the whole time. Creepy.
I think both maleShep and femShep sound monotone. FemShep doesn't sound any less monotone than maleShep. The funny thing is, that when maleShep I don't bother, it doesn't feel misfit. MaleShep just sounds like a typical commander, nothing wrong with that. But when Jennifer Hale uses the same low and monotone voice style as Mark Meer (most of the times she does), it sounds weird.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 10:58
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Luc0s wrote...
Please, don't act so butthurt.
First you accuse me of things, then you do exactly the same thing.
No, Hale's voice-acting is NOT superior to Meer's, that just YOUR OPINION. It's NOT a fact.
In this topic I'm merely stating my opinion and asking a few questions. Comparing to most flame-topics on this forum about LI and the ME2 story, I think my topic is quite mild, reasonable and politically correct. So please, don't act so personally attacked, I didn't attack anyone.
You prefer femShep to maleShep? Good for you. I don't and I have my reasons for it, good reasons actually. Maybe if femShep was canon and maleShep was only an extra, it would have been the other way around, I would have loved femShep and disliked maleShep. But the fact that BioWare simply replaced the maleShep model for a femShep model and let Jennifer Hale redo Mark Meer's lines makes femShep feel misplaced, IN MY OPINION.
Maybe BioWare could try to fix this with ME3, so I would equally love femShep as much as maleShep.
dude, seriously. YOU are the one that is acting all butthurt. Erjack calmly and tactfully put forth his arguments and clearly stated his position as an opinion.
you are clearly the one acting personally attacked.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:00
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Actually I was going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt when he said this wasn't intended as a troll post. That illusion vanished after reading his replies.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:04
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also femshep voice is much too raspy
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:04
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Im mainly a paragon player. FemShep is a MUCH better paragon than MaleShep. The only renegade dialogs Ive heard from either is watching the Shep is a bleep! videos on youtube. I cant stand MaleShep's voice delivery as a paragon. He has good range when acting renegade though. But since I cant even go renegade...Femshep all the way for me.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:05
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The new N7 armor helps a lot for FemShep in ME 2.
In ME 1 FemShep looks like a stick insect. Having her slapping people around, carrying people it was just too hard to belive. I'm not looking for a giant steroid monster, but they could have designed her to look a bit more fit.
Still not a big fan of the voice talent, but playing a FemShep in ME 2 is much easier for me.
In ME 1 FemShep looks like a stick insect. Having her slapping people around, carrying people it was just too hard to belive. I'm not looking for a giant steroid monster, but they could have designed her to look a bit more fit.
Still not a big fan of the voice talent, but playing a FemShep in ME 2 is much easier for me.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:05
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Whoever you play your first playthrough as becomes your canon Shepard, and it can be extremely difficult to break out of that mindset. That's why so many people seem to hate either ManShep or FemShep's voice, because it's different to the one they used for their first playthrough.
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Im mainly a paragon player. FemShep is a MUCH better paragon than MaleShep. The only renegade dialogs Ive heard from either is watching the Shep is a bleep! videos on youtube. I cant stand MaleShep's voice delivery as a paragon. He has good range when acting renegade though. But since I cant even go renegade...Femshep all the way for me.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:06
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Whats up with the boards today, double posting issues everywhere 
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:09
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I think it really is down to personal preference and background; I feel the exact other way. I always choose the female option if available and I think FemShep is one of the best characters I've ever played; it never even occurred to me to consider that MaleShep is the canon.
My boyfriend plays a MaleShep and to be honest, I find MaleShep's voice to be very varsity jock-like, but I'm sure it's just because I'm so used to Hale's no-nonsense, straight-forward voicing.
My boyfriend plays a MaleShep and to be honest, I find MaleShep's voice to be very varsity jock-like, but I'm sure it's just because I'm so used to Hale's no-nonsense, straight-forward voicing.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:09
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cylriasilver wrote...
Actually I was going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt when he said this wasn't intended as a troll post. That illusion vanished after reading his replies.
Which is a shame, because I'm honestly on the middleground in this.
I knew I kinda could expect people going into defensive positions about femShep when I made this topic, some people go kinda far when it comes to defending their beloved femShep. But like I said, I don't want to attack your femShep, I don't want to attack Jennifer Hale's voice-acting because I know she's good. But as soon as I made this topic, people started b*tching on Meer's voice-acting (while this topic is about how BioWare just copy-pasted femShep in the game, not about Meer's voice-acting), saying outdated stuff like "I rather stare at a female's ass than a male's ass", defending their positions as femShep players (while I didn't attack femShep players either) and no doubt some people even think now that I'm anti-femshep, which is just bollocks.
I'd love to have an open debate about this, without b*tching from either side. I'm not anti-femshep people, I just wish BioWare would spent more time on writing new dialogues for femShep and programming new character animations for her, to make her feel more natural and not a female model and voice copy-pasted over a male character.
But yeah, maybe it's just me. I don't care, I just wanted to say this. No need to go trolling from either side.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:10
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ERJAK2 wrote...
Luc0s wrote...
General Battuta wrote...
ManShep doesn't sound right to me at all. Totally out of place.
The game was clearly written with a female in mind. manShep just comes across as sort of a creep.
Troll much?
Only as much as you.
No no, the correct response would be:
"Pot much?"
Luc0s wrote...
It seems you feel rather upset (personally attacked) by my topic. How so?
This is a forum, people talk about stuff, people give their opinions, and this is mine. Comparing to most of the b*tching-threads on this forum, I think my topic is very mild and reasonable. I didn't attack anything or anyone, I just asked if it is just me or that BioWare really did write the ME story for maleShep and added femShep later on, explaning why femShep feels wrong and misplaced (to me).
PS: I rather have a drink with Garrus, Jacob is one of my least favorite characters in ME2.
Upset? Dude, this is the internet. I don't do inter-upset.
As for why femShep feels wrong to you... I don't know. Maybe it's because the character of Shepard is both physically and emotionally strong whether portrayed as male or female. Maybe you feel threatened by strong female leads. Maybe you like female protagonists to have more of a 'damsel in distress' air about them, to allow you to feel manly and protective. I don't know. I'm not a psychologist, and it's not my place to psycho-analyse you. Bioware designed the game with both genders in mind -- if femShep feels wrong for you, maybe you should spend some time introspectively examining your own beliefs, rather than seeking affirmation from a bunch of inter-strangers.
PS, Garrus doesn't want to have a drink with you, his only worldly desire is to calibrate weapons.
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#45
Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:13
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My femshep would like to have a word with you sir.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:15
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I am just glad that Bioware gives us the choice between the two! I think both of the VAs do a great job.
That said my paragon vanguard femshepard is totally my main that I enjoy playing the most. ^^ I love the new armor for femShep too, much better than the old skin-tight medium armor from ME1.
I don't really mind her having somewhat masculine animations since hey, she's a vanguard. ^^...
Anyway I think the main takehome here is "yay aren't we glad that Bioware let us pick!" cause people who like both can play both, and people who don't like one can pick the other.
Everyone's happy right? right :-)
That said my paragon vanguard femshepard is totally my main that I enjoy playing the most. ^^ I love the new armor for femShep too, much better than the old skin-tight medium armor from ME1.
I don't really mind her having somewhat masculine animations since hey, she's a vanguard. ^^...
Anyway I think the main takehome here is "yay aren't we glad that Bioware let us pick!" cause people who like both can play both, and people who don't like one can pick the other.
Everyone's happy right? right :-)
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:18
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Llandaryn wrote...
As for why femShep feels wrong to you... I don't know. Maybe it's because the character of Shepard is both physically and emotionally strong whether portrayed as male or female. Maybe you feel threatened by strong female leads. Maybe you like female protagonists to have more of a 'damsel in distress' air about them, to allow you to feel manly and protective. I don't know. I'm not a psychologist, and it's not my place to psycho-analyse you. Bioware designed the game with both genders in mind -- if femShep feels wrong for you, maybe you should spend some time introspectively examining your own beliefs, rather than seeking affirmation from a bunch of inter-strangers.
Maybe you're right, though, like I said, I love Samus Aran from Metroid Prime. And Lara Croft from Tomb Raider is simply a classic female-protagonist icon in video-game world. Gotta love her!
I still think BioWare wrote Mass Effect with a male protagonist in the back of their heads and add a female option later on and I think that is the reason why I dislike femshep.
I have to admit, I haven't played ME2 with my femshep character just yet, only ME1. I think I'm gonna give my femshep a try after I've beaten ME2 on Insanity with my maleshep vanguard.
Llandaryn wrote...
PS, Garrus doesn't want to have a drink with you, his only worldly desire is to calibrate weapons.
Sh*t, you're right. Maybe Thane? Nah, I guess he's to busy praying.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:21
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Gill Kaiser wrote...
Whoever you play your first playthrough as becomes your canon Shepard, and it can be extremely difficult to break out of that mindset. That's why so many people seem to hate either ManShep or FemShep's voice, because it's different to the one they used for their first playthrough.
Agreed 100%
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:22
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I think the problem is that FemShep's voice sounds as manly as MaleShep.
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Posté 15 février 2010 - 11:23
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I prefer the female Shepard despite of being a guy, thank you very much. Back in ME1 I played Eden Prime through both as male and female character, and picked female for the rest of the game as my primary choice because she's slightly less clichéd a character, and I personally prefer her more emotionally loaded voice acting. I know that some hold a different opinion, but this is mine and I'm sticking with it.
I've said this before, but she reminds me of Ellen Ripley, one of my favourite sci-fi heroines, which undoubtedly is because both characters were originally written as gender-neutral. People first, men or women second. It's refreshing change of pace from the usual fare. The fact is that you don't have to change too many lines between male and female variations of a character if both are written well. See Alien again as an example; it was decided only in the last minute that Ripley should be female, and as result she became one of the best sci-fi heroes ever.
I've said this before, but she reminds me of Ellen Ripley, one of my favourite sci-fi heroines, which undoubtedly is because both characters were originally written as gender-neutral. People first, men or women second. It's refreshing change of pace from the usual fare. The fact is that you don't have to change too many lines between male and female variations of a character if both are written well. See Alien again as an example; it was decided only in the last minute that Ripley should be female, and as result she became one of the best sci-fi heroes ever.
