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[Nynaeve]

Zhaosen wrote...



My femshep would like to have a word with you sir.

Woah! she makes Jack look like a girl guide!

[scrappydoo555]

I always play as a female Shepard, I've tried to play as a male but never managed complete one. I think the problem is I see the male shep all the time in adverts and videos of the game. If I make a custom male shep he doesn't feel right because I already associate his voice with the marketed male shep and if I keep the original face he doesn't really feel like my Shepard.

[The Governator]

HAGA NAGA wrote...

I do think that Femshep was given much more attention in ME1.

but i still prefer playing Femshep. I played through ME2 4 times now (i need to stop, i know), once with Maleshep 3 times with Femshep.

Maleshep is the one that doesn't "feel" right for me. I just hope Femshep gets more girl romances in ME3

Females kicking ass in space is very cool.  However, female Shepard does seem rather masculine at times.  I agree with you, overall, though.  I prefer female Shepard as well, the only downside is that she cannot romance Tali.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

I found male Shepard to be a bit bland to be honest. Female Shepard is m favorite, there's just something about Jennifer Hale's voice that makes her characers great. And IMO she was made for Renegade dialogue, she can do agression really well.

[The Governator]

HAGA NAGA wrote...

I do think that Femshep was given much more attention in ME1.

but i still prefer playing Femshep. I played through ME2 4 times now (i need to stop, i know), once with Maleshep 3 times with Femshep.

Maleshep is the one that doesn't "feel" right for me. I just hope Femshep gets more girl romances in ME3

Females kicking ass in space is very cool.  However, female Shepard does seem rather masculine at times.  I agree with you, overall, though.  I prefer female Shepard as well, the only downside is that she cannot romance Tali.

[Lightice_av]

I don't know about Mass Effect, if Shepard is supposed to be a male in the original script or not (that's why I made this topic), but to me, maleshep with Mark van der Loo's face feels like "the original", which is why I prefer maleshep with his default face (Van der Loo's face).

Shepard was written as gender-neutrally as possible. This is pretty much a fact. He or she wasn't supposed to be either or the other - the character was made in a way that supports both options.

You prefer the default; that's fine and dandy. But Shepard was made into a character that offers maximum customizablity within the bounds of the script. Most people like to customize their own Shepards, and find it a bit irritating that some insist that there is one "right" Shepard and all the other options should be ignored.

Everybody has their own preference; lets respect that.

[KumoriOokami]

The Governator wrote...

HAGA NAGA wrote...

I do think that Femshep was given much more attention in ME1.

but i still prefer playing Femshep. I played through ME2 4 times now (i need to stop, i know), once with Maleshep 3 times with Femshep.

Maleshep is the one that doesn't "feel" right for me. I just hope Femshep gets more girl romances in ME3

Females kicking ass in space is very cool.  However, female Shepard does seem rather masculine at times.  I agree with you, overall, though.  I prefer female Shepard as well, the only downside is that she cannot romance Tali.

Yeah this was the only thing that made me sad about playing femShep.  ^^;  I have the PC version so it's not completely impossible, just a pain.

[The Governator]

frij wrote...

Zhaosen wrote...



My femshep would like to have a word with you sir.

Whoa! she makes Jack look like a girl guide!

Nothing can make Jack look female.

[tmp7704]

Tisiphne wrote...

They *did* design the game with John Shepard in mind. Watch the opening sequence of ME1 with a FemShep. She clearly walks like a man.

I believe that's because there's only one version of these animations, probably to both save the development time and conserve the memory for console version of the game. And since having something more gender-neutral or feminine would make male characters even less plausible than females walking "manly", they went with that.

Modifié par tmp7704, 15 février 2010 - 11:36 .

[nenri]

I play renegade femshep. Jen Hale delivers every single line of dialogue with gusto. Just compare the Shepard epic speeches in the two games, Meer sounds in comparison wooden (not that he is doing a crap job mind you, Hale is just on another level.)
Also, Even if the script seems written for a male hero, the story in both games has more depth with a female protagonist. No NPC in ME1 questions Shepard on her ability to lead or save the universe based on her gender. The first human spectre, the greatest representant of humanity in the galactic community, is a woman. A powerful symbol.

It is sad that Hale is left out of the promotional material. To quote virginia Woolf, for most of history "anonymous" was a woman. Well maybe at EA's marketing she is, but not in the world of Mass Effect: Bioware gave its most epic saga a female lead, something that is all too rare and on the top of my head, in the genre and across mediums, on this scale (a trilogy, more than a hundred hours of content, breadth of story) unprecedented.

Playing as male Shepard feels in comparison rather common.

One man's opinion.

Modifié par nenri, 15 février 2010 - 11:39 .

[KumoriOokami]

tmp7704 wrote...

Tisiphne wrote...

They *did* design the game with John Shepard in mind. Watch the opening sequence of ME1 with a FemShep. She clearly walks like a man.

I believe that's because there's only one version of these animations, probably to both save the development time and conserve the memory for console version of the game. And since having something more gender-neutral or feminine would make male characters even less plausible than females walking "manly", they went with that.

I disagree that she walks like a -man- though. She walks like a soldier.  She's a professional soldier she's not going to walk too differently really especially while on duty.

[mpgeist]

Not to flame anyone, but I don't understand the adoration for FemShep. Hale's acting seems just as uninspired as Meer's to me. They both play it pretty lowkey. I think I prefer Meer, all said and done.

[Atti Ito]

I started ME with femshep and carried her over to ME2, that feels right to me. I just wish the default femshep had been modeled after someone like Mshep is after Vanderloo because John Shepard will always look more human and realistic than anything we can make for the female side.

[jstne]

I never did like the male VA in the ME games. He's not a bad VA though, it's just that his voice acting talent is a bit lackluster for games so focused on dialogue and conversations.

Modifié par jstne, 15 février 2010 - 11:56 .

[chem light]

Tighue wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Whoever you play your first playthrough as becomes your canon Shepard, and it can be extremely difficult to break out of that mindset. That's why so many people seem to hate either ManShep or FemShep's voice, because it's different to the one they used for their first playthrough.

This.

I've always used the character I completed my first ME 1 playthrough with, a "custom" female Shepard named Jane (I just made the default female a light brunette with brown eyes - I like to live on the edge that way) . It's basically almost impossible for me to see or hear Shepard any other way without having a reaction that's similar to the one expressed by the OP.

^This^

However you play first is going to be imprinted on you.  I think it's why I don't bother with the posters or figurines they sell.  I don't look at their "cannon" Shep and "oh, Mass Effect."   I think, "who the hell is that and why is he wearing Shepard's armor."

And I think they did a decent job in the first one (not so much the second one) of apealing to female players and custamizing the dialogue.  I nearly dies laughing when I told Harkin "I'd rather chew on a razor blade and drink acid."  Not to mention, Kaidan was IMO the perfect LI.  Don't believe me, check out the following on his thread.

The animation in the first one was a little off, especially at the Beacon and when Shep picks up whoever is gaurding the bomb, but other than that...I honestly couldn't tell that she wasn't planned for the entire time.  Sometimes I forget there's a male option.

So that's my two cents.  As Leela would say, "full power to the vagirascope!"

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm sorry you don't like femShep, I persoanlly love Hale's voice acting and the freedom to actually play my own gender in a game that doesn't have elves.

[Championette]

SimonTheFrog wrote...

Doing the Krogan headbutt with a girl is all i asked for in life...

Also, Hale is amazing...

+1

[Championette]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm sorry you don't like femShep, I persoanlly love Hale's voice acting and the freedom to actually play my own gender in a game that doesn't have elves.

haha!  aah.....that is great - and good point.

[Lmaoboat]

Gabey5 wrote...

also femshep voice is much too raspy

This. I think the acting is good, but to me it sounds like she just sat on a traffic cone.

[wizardryforever]

Meh.  Personally I agree with the OP.  The game just seems somehow wrong when playing as a femShep.  Maybe it's because I'm a male and don't feel particularly comfortable playing females in RPGs (I'm clueless how to roleplay one).  Maybe it's because I played as a male first.  Maybe because most situations in the game just seem to fit a male much better.

The voice-acting is irrelevant to me.  The difference lies not in appearances (visual or audio) but in how everyone treats you.  I think that maybe if the game deliniated the difference between male and female Shepards more I would be a bit less averse to playing a female.  There are times when it makes more sense to be female, but only because the paragon options usually involve compassion or mercy, something that is more often associated with females.  Far more often, it seems like the default gender is male.

I only played a femShep in ME1 once, every other time was with my custom male.  I like to make my characters look something like me, maybe that's why I can't get into a female character, I'm not very feminine looking:innocent:.

[redloz]

For me, FemShep worked perfectly because my 'main' FemShep is the Earthborn, Ruthless background, almost fully renegade and a soldier, so she's a bit of a brute to begin with, and has alot of physicality. I was honestly sort of worried in ME1 that femshep would be given different animations to fit a more feminine approach, and was really glad she wasn't.



It also makes for some unintentionally hillarious ingame moments - ( effortlessly hauling the virmire survivor over her shoulder, lifting grunt one handed onto the platform, etc) and I love those.





On the other hand, I can absolutely see why it might bother a player who built their femshep as an adept, or a more elegant, behind the scenes warrior, an infiltrator, etc. Also that femshep in rather slight without her armor. In that respect having masculine, clunky movements could very much spoil the image that player wants to create, but for me?



Anything Shep can do, FemShep can do better.

[Spinnazie]

I felt the same way.

I played a male Shep first and it just felt wrong when I tried to play as a woman. I didn't even beat ME1 as a fem Shep until ME2. After playing through two femsheps in ME1 and ME2 I have a newfound appreciation for them.

These boards are full of blind hate for Mark Meer though, so don't expect many constructive posts in this thread.

Modifié par Spinnazie, 16 février 2010 - 12:05 .

[Lmaoboat]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm sorry you don't like femShep, I persoanlly love Hale's voice acting and the freedom to actually play my own gender in a game that doesn't have elves.

Yeah, screw elves! I'll take none of that generic wise, long lived, spiritual race garbage. They can stay in their fantasy games along with their warlike, clan-based orcs, diminutive, industrious gnomes, and hardy, militaristic dwarves!