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[jacksmedula1]

Just dont get it. Why is it so important for you to see M/M in a game? Can't you just throw on some pink armor, karoake sing show toons with Mordin, and role play you are in the closet?

[Ninja Mage]

yes, it's true, I'm a Garrus fanboi lol

Modifié par Ninja Mage, 16 février 2010 - 06:00 .

[Ninja Mage]

I'm just annoyed cause everytime I talk to Miranda it goes into this scene where she's near her bed and asking to me sleep with her..and I was just being nice

Modifié par Ninja Mage, 16 février 2010 - 06:00 .

[FataliTensei]

jacksmedula1 wrote...

Just dont get it. Why is it so important for you to see M/M in a game? Can't you just throw on some pink armor, karoake sing show toons with Mordin, and role play you are in the closet?

There alot of reasons, all of which have already been discussed multiple times

I'm too tired to list all of them right now

[Jimmy Fury]

jacksmedula1 wrote...

Just dont get it. Why is it so important for you to see M/M in a game? Can't you just throw on some pink armor, karoake sing show toons with Mordin, and role play you are in the closet?

Reasons
1: Improved game play experience

End of list! That's all that matters to any of us as players right? We all want the game to be as enjoyable as possible. So if there's a way to make it a bit more enjoyable for some then why not?
-edit- nvm won't get off topic even parenthetically.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 16 février 2010 - 06:25 .

[Ninja Mage]

I think he didn't pick up the ******-erotic subtexts in the fight club movie, he just saw the violence and the fat guy getting his medula oblangada shot out

[BrianWilly]

Huh. Well that explains Fight Club.


Kidding! Mostly.

Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.

That's why I'd like to see gay options in this game and future ones. I've said it so many times at this point lol, but I don't mind saying it more, because it needs to be said.

Modifié par BrianWilly, 16 février 2010 - 06:29 .

[Taiko Roshi]

BrianWilly wrote...

Huh. Well that explains Fight Club.


Kidding! Mostly.

Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.

That's why I'd like to see gay options in this game and future ones. I've said it so many times at this point lol, but I don't mind saying it more, because it needs to be said.

Cool so you are all now admitting that everything that can be discussed about this topic has been discuss. This thread should be closed and you all should be happy to talk about your special interest in your special interest group discussion board like everyone else.

Since this topic matters so much to you all why do you not register with every gaming forum on the internet and also demand that every game contain gay content? Or do you only enjoy harassing BW?

[FataliTensei]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

BrianWilly wrote...

Huh. Well that explains Fight Club.


Kidding! Mostly.

Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.

That's why I'd like to see gay options in this game and future ones. I've said it so many times at this point lol, but I don't mind saying it more, because it needs to be said.

Cool so you are all now admitting that everything that can be discussed about this topic has been discuss. This thread should be closed and you all should be happy to talk about your special interest in your special interest group discussion board like everyone else.

Since this topic matters so much to you all why do you not register with every gaming forum on the internet and also demand that every game contain gay content? Or do you only enjoy harassing BW?

Why are you harassing us?

[AntWrig]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

BrianWilly wrote...

Huh. Well that explains Fight Club.


Kidding! Mostly.

Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.

That's why I'd like to see gay options in this game and future ones. I've said it so many times at this point lol, but I don't mind saying it more, because it needs to be said.

Cool so you are all now admitting that everything that can be discussed about this topic has been discuss. This thread should be closed and you all should be happy to talk about your special interest in your special interest group discussion board like everyone else.

Since this topic matters so much to you all why do you not register with every gaming forum on the internet and also demand that every game contain gay content? Or do you only enjoy harassing BW?

You're really getting annoying.

I hope this thread continues to stay on top. Maybe this will persuade Bioware to do something about it.

Modifié par AntWrig, 16 février 2010 - 06:50 .

[English Cooper]

don't even respond to him you just encourage him to come back, ignore him and he will get bored and find something else to do, don't throw gasoline on the fire

[Ninja Mage]

Yes, asking for a same-sex romance is not out of the question, especially for a game like this.

[Zpartan]

Sure we can make Shep gay, it should just end in Critical Mission Failure the second you decide to follow that path....

And I'm seeing a lot of well they let a female/female LI in ME1.



""Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.""



A.) Well as far as I know there was none.

Male Shep had, Ash and Liara

Female Shep had, Kaiden and Liara



Don't asari just appear female in form but actually have no sex.??? So your wrong.

[Ninja Mage]

Liara is female, Tali is Female, Garrus is Male, Thane is male, Salara is Female

[comicfan22]

Monogendered means:



mono-one



gendered- self explanitory.



The asari are female. Liara herself admits that they fill a female role.

[Ninja Mage]

It feels like I'm answering the same questions over and over again

[JaylaClark]

Zpartan wrote...

Sure we can make Shep gay, it should just end in Critical Mission Failure the second you decide to follow that path....
And I'm seeing a lot of well they let a female/female LI in ME1.

""Having a gay romance in this game wouldn't nearly be anywhere on my to-have list if they hadn't A)included a lesbian romance in the first game, and B)included six new romances in this game, several of which are interspecies options, yet still having no sign of gay male options anywhere in either game. To me that feels incredibly exclusionary and unfair and sends the wrong sort of message.""

A.) Well as far as I know there was none.
Male Shep had, Ash and Liara
Female Shep had, Kaiden and Liara

Don't asari just appear female in form but actually have no sex.??? So your wrong.

Well, Kaidan said it best:  "Yeah, but you look like- never mind."  As I've already put it clearly, in the matter of attraction, looks do matter.

But besides that, the asari are described in the Codex itself as an "all-female race", and to many they would qualify as such, having all the necessary organs to bear a child yet not all the material, even though it's a special case because, but for their need to telepathically gain another body's genetic code, they would unquestionably be hermaphroditic.  (Which is both sexes, not no sex, so your analysis isn't strictly correct, though I could be thought to be splitting hairs, because you still have an arguable point nonetheless.)

Furthermore, I'd argue that Liara's personality is particularly feminine in nature, in addition to her looks, which leads me to believe that BioWare's intention was for her to be female.  Adding to this the fact that BioWare's other notable RPGs of years past, KotOR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age, all have lesbian options available, suggests that Liara was intended to fill that role in Mass Effect, among others.  I'm wondering, in fact, if that's more of an argument on the side of the same-sex-romance people, that BioWare witheld something it has a pattern of providing?

[BrianWilly]

Zpartan wrote...

Don't asari just appear female in form but actually have no sex.??? So your wrong.

What are you talking about?  The Asari have sex all the time.

In any case, as others have pointed out, monogendered does not mean "asexual," it just means "one gender." In the Asaris' case, that gender is female.

You're right, Liara does tell you that male and female has no meaning to her species, but it surprises me how many people hang onto that line and not what she says immediately afterwards.  In the very next breath, she says that, despite not thinking in terms of gender, the Asari do have maternal instincts and therefore it might make sense for humans to think of them as female.  She literally says that, from the perspective of every othe species in the entire universe, the Asari are female and that it would make sense to think of them in that way.

Regardless, you have to at least see that a woman who is attracted to Liara would definitely be a lesbian?  Hence, female Shepard being attracted to her would be a lesbian romance.

[darkshadow136]

4th try, 4th fail. Enough with the gay romance threads. People that choose that lifestyle have already discussed this topic to death already another thread of this nature is just spam. I for one am against adding gay romance to the ME universe. I hated it when they had Zeveren in DAO hitting on my male character.

[ModProp]

Wouldn't BioWare have to come up with a plausible reason as to why he was interested in men? And also, wouldn't they have to basically retcon the first games relationships entirely as a male character?

[JaylaClark]

ModProp wrote...

Wouldn't BioWare have to come up with a plausible reason as to why he was interested in men? And also, wouldn't they have to basically retcon the first games relationships entirely as a male character?

No, I don't think so.  I think it would fit, personally, if the prior crew members available weren't potential love interests.  That would just mean that maleShep had no interest in them specificallly.  (Are you attracted to every member of the opposite sex?  Me neither, nor am I attracted to every member of my own gender.)  Of course, having seen the list of LI's for ME2, and yet not having played it, I presume that BioWare has some idea of how to work around how people's feelings can change/develop, so there's that possible explanation as well.

[BrianWilly]

ModProp wrote...

Wouldn't BioWare have to come up with a plausible reason as to why he was interested in men? And also, wouldn't they have to basically retcon the first games relationships entirely as a male character?

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Who would they have to come up with a reason for? Shepard? Why would they have to come up with any reason for it? He would just be gay (AS AN OPTION, NOT BEING FORCED TO), much like a female Shepard could just be a lesbian (OPTIONALLY). What makes Shepard being gay implausible, or a retcon?

If you're talking about male love interests, well, if they wanted to go back and add in Kaidan and Thane being potential romance options for a male Shepard, that's really not much of a retcon seeing as how both those characters were originally male romance options anyway, just taken out at the last minute. And, again, it's an option, so it's not as if anyone would be forced to change their characters in any way.  There's no reason why your straight male Shepard couldn't have the exact same relationship with Kaidan he had before, just because Kaidan might be bisexual.  Hell, I'm betting you all killed him anyway just to get into Ash's pants, you heartless monsters.

Or, if they just create a potential gay male romance for future content like DLCs, expansions, or Mass Effect 3, then, well that's not a retcon either. All the prior characters stay exactly as they have been, and anyone who doesn't want that option are still free to not explore it.

Modifié par BrianWilly, 16 février 2010 - 07:54 .

[rhyddhau]

So many homophobic closet-cases trolling in these threads. They're keeping it bumped, though.

Quick question: Kelly is romanceable by FemSheps, right? I played through as a FemShep but didn't like any of the male LI's more than Kaidan, and I wasn't going to go F/F, so I didn't romance anyone with my canon Shep.

Beyond said closet-cases, I still don't understand the irrational hatred for something that would be purely optional.

[KumoriOokami]

BrianWilly wrote...

ModProp wrote...

Wouldn't BioWare have to come up with a plausible reason as to why he was interested in men? And also, wouldn't they have to basically retcon the first games relationships entirely as a male character?

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Who would they have to come up with a reason for? Shepard? Why would they have to come up with any reason for it? He would just be gay (AS AN OPTION, NOT BEING FORCED TO), much like a female Shepard could just be a lesbian (OPTIONALLY). What makes Shepard being gay implausible, or a retcon?

If you're talking about male love interests, well, if they wanted to go back and add in Kaidan and Thane being potential romance options for a male Shepard, that's really not much of a retcon seeing as how both those characters were originally male romance options anyway, just taken out at the last minute. And, again, it's an option, so it's not as if anyone would be forced to change their characters in any way.  There's no reason why your straight male Shepard couldn't have the exact same relationship with Kaidan he had before, just because Kaidan might be bisexual.  Hell, I'm betting you all killed him anyway just to get into Ash's pants, you heartless monsters.

Or, if they just create a potential gay male romance for future content like DLCs, expansions, or Mass Effect 3, then, well that's not a retcon either. All the prior characters stay exactly as they have been, and anyone who doesn't want that option are still free to not explore it.

That's not fair, I totally let Kaidan live on several occasions because I liked to use both  him and Liara in my squad.  ^^  Yay over powered biotic crowd control.  

Also he lets Liara be the bad**** one who shoots Saren to make sure of his deadness, so Kaidan is good to have on my team for this as well.

Modifié par KumoriOokami, 16 février 2010 - 09:40 .

[Wittand25]

The optimal solution for ME3 in my opinion would be :
1 make Kaidan bisexual and available for both and bring back Liara, so you have both m/m and f/f
2 as reward for completing a playthrough enable a character editor that allows changing key decisions of the first two games.

Kaidan is a good candidate for the m/m romance because he is not part of standard male Shepards team in ME3, so that the only way to have a m/m romance in the first playthrough is if you import an old savegame. The unlocked charactereditor would allow players without a safegame to pursue that romance later while allowing players that dont want any m/m in game to keep him out of their games.
As for Kaidan just showing interest in male Shepard in ME3, I fully believe that female Shepards who did not romance Kaidan in ME1 will get a second shot at romancing him and with careful wording that dialog could be used for both male and female Shepard.

Modifié par Wittand25, 16 février 2010 - 10:15 .