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[Beretzik]

Hey all,

Just curious, how often in the course of an insanity run do you end up getting the 'Critical Mission Failure'?

I've got this crazy idea in my head to one day pull off a no-death run on insanity, from start to finish, but so far it hasn't been working out too well for me and my infiltrator. Crazy I know, but I'd like to one day do it perfectly. Any thoughts?

[Jaekahn]

Beretzik wrote...

Hey all,

Just curious, how often in the course of an insanity run do you end up getting the 'Critical Mission Failure'?

I've got this crazy idea in my head to one day pull off a no-death run on insanity, from start to finish, but so far it hasn't been working out too well for me and my infiltrator. Crazy I know, but I'd like to one day do it perfectly. Any thoughts?

Funny, because I had the same idea last night. I was like "I wonder if there has been anyone to actually pull it off yet." Sadly.. This run was a fail attempt.

[Kronner]

no-death playthrough is basically impossible imho, just one little bug and you end up dead in an instant. Though, some conservative style could work, but what fun would that be?

Modifié par Kronner, 15 février 2010 - 11:22 .

[amrose2]

I'm sure people playing as Soldier have done it a few times now.



I die quite often as Vanguard, but at least I can make excuses for some of my deaths due to awkwardness of Charge

[Darnalak]

Eh, I s'pose Infiltrators and soldiers could do it. <yawn> who the hell wants to play like a scared kitten though? Even my sentinels bash people in the face.

[FoFoZem]

I would say I die on average 2-3 times per mission unless I hit a really hard part like a Praetorian.

[gr00grams]

Once I figured out how to play insanity, I stopped dying altogether.



The only real challenges of the mode now, are trying to do things in time etc, if they are timed events.

Like the one side quest with the missles, where you can save a colony or a factory, and have like 2 minutes.



That's hard.



But for the actual enemies now, pretty much never.

As someone else stated though, it depends if you want to go all Rambo or not. Rambo's will definitely die.

[Awesome Helmet]

nobody could ever beat this game on insanity without dieing. you cant survive insanity for 20 hours, and live to tell about it. impossible.



ME1 on the other hand could be done without dieing. thanks to immunity, or being an untouchable adept.

[Beretzik]

See, the reason I would want to do this is to try and stick that extra bit of 'umph' when it comes to realism.



I mean in a real firefight, people never go rambo.. or if they do it's usually when there's no other choice. Otherwise they just die.



So doing a no death run for me is basically an extreme way of putting yourself in Sheppard's shoes. If you have that much riding on your shoulders, you damn well need to be smart and careful not to get killed.



Of course.. nothing is worse than dying due to glitches or miscalculations (I hate nuking myself with the McCain because I misjudged the distance of an enemy )

[p95h]

I averaged about 4 or 5 deaths on most of the secondary missions, and upwards of 10-15 deaths on primary missions when I ran my adept through insane level. Heck, I'd have been disappointed if the game play wasn't insane, but it made the replay on normal afterwards (once I got the achievement) a cakewalk

[finnithe]

As an Adept on an Insanity+ run, I die a lot. Like 10-15 times on the primary missions depending on difficulty. Horizon was not fun.

[gr00grams]

You could honestly do an insanity run without dying.

The main thing would be patience.



There are only a few real 'tough' areas that even come to mind.

The main thing, is staying in cover. Always wait till shields recharge etc.

Don't save heavy weapon ammo for bosses, as most bosses are easily exploitable, use it on the 'rush' scenarios that happen instead, to give breathing room.



There are also opportunities on every map which are also exploitable, as long as you have no qualms about sitting in cover... a lot.



It really isn't that hard. You just have to learn a few basic things;



Always have shields up before attempting to pop out of cover.

If you don't have to move, or pop out of cover, don't.

Learn all the exploitable weaknesses of enemies, and I don't just mean defense/weaknesses.

I mean like what are the most feared opponents?



YMIR's? can easily dance around cover and take almost no damage from them.

Time consuming yes, but threat no.



Harbingers? trap them with singularities, and you can just wait them out if you want.

Scions? Same deal, trap them with singularities, and they can do effectively nothing.



Like give me a 'difficult' scenario, and I could probably tell you how to get through it pretty easy without a death (just not more horizon.. it's been done to death ).



Again, if you have patience, then it is easily achievable, due to how the cover system works. The only thing that can force you out of cover is the harbingers big projectile, which can also be easily avoided by strafing one way then back on whatever cover you're up against.

[Darnalak]

What groo has said is true... I think the fairer question is... Could anyone survive insanity on thier first trip through... Gr00grams has gone through the game a fair amt of times to the point of pretty much scripting the encounters. (and he's damned good at it) but I'm pretty sure no one just steps up and walks through insanity.

[R-F]

i die about 2-3 times a mission, depending on what i have to fight. more if its a harder section, case in point i got slaughtered on purgatory, think i died like 10 times or more in that mission. i'm getting the hang of insanity now though, so i don't die too often.

[Maloar]

My insanity+ run is getting underway. The underground garage on Garrus' recruitment level is becoming annoying. I'm debating just caining it.

[Grand_Commander13]

Most of the time I die it's either because I got greedy or because I forgot I have a grenade launcher strapped to my back. If I were more mindful of my full range of options and less likely to chance one last use of my powers before I let my shields recover then I'd die a lot less.

[LightweightJustice]

It might be hard to belive, but i died only once on insanity - It was 1 on 1, had no heavy ammo and it was a matter of seconds when big robot nailed me with rocket.

[ATKT]

On insanity on my second playthrough (it takes me one playthrough to learn how to play well, lol) I only died a handful of times, and in the same spot over and over. Such as the very first praetorian on Horizon (didn't have the right squadmates to quickly take the husks down).



I turned it down to veteran for my 3rd playthrough and I just WRECK everything on a sentinel. I died a few times because I was drinking something while playing/trying to watch the Olympics at the same time.

[Beretzik]

groo,



what would be your strategy for Miranda's loyalty mission on the last part. The one where you fight Enyala (or however it's spelled). There's always two lanes that they could flank me from and it's a pain in the ass. I did it perfectly with my infiltrator but it was damn close.

[Atheist Peace]

Playing Adept or engineer i die very rarely, soldier or vanguard i die a bit more often. I am sure its possible to do a no death run but i for one wouldn't have the patience to play that cautiously.

[Taritu]

On insanity I die occasionally. One of the reasons I mostly don't do insanity is that I find dying immersion breaking (oh, I'd be dead.) So I usually play on veteran these days.

[mundus66]

Beretzik wrote...

Hey all,

Just curious, how often in the course of an insanity run do you end up getting the 'Critical Mission Failure'?

I've got this crazy idea in my head to one day pull off a no-death run on insanity, from start to finish, but so far it hasn't been working out too well for me and my infiltrator. Crazy I know, but I'd like to one day do it perfectly. Any thoughts?

When i played sentinel i didn't die once through the whole game. But i don't die that much in general. My current vanguard has only died 3 or 4 times and every time was beacuse "cant target them" which imo is just a bug that hopefully gets fixed.

Im a bit over halfway through and i actually cleared the platform event on the collector ship in my first try surprisingly enough.

Modifié par mundus66, 16 février 2010 - 04:23 .

[the120Truth]

I tried to play on insanity and not die on my second playthrough. I was an infilitrator after plying as an adept. On one of the first missions I get out of cover and hit LB or RB trying to use pull or warp not realizing I was no longer an adept. I watched Shep switch to a different ammo type while getting shot in the face, so much for my goal

[Looy]

I generally only die to bugs and shepard velcro-ing his buttocks to a crate when I wanted him to sprint away from a YMIR mech.

[zircher]

Let's see...  I die so often that I've lost count.  WTF happened to my beloved RPG?

I hate shooters but I like the Mass Effect universe.  The kick in the teeth is that I'm also a completionist.  Since I suck at GoW, Halo, etc., what build can you all reccommend for my run at the Insanity achievement in ME2?
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