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[mousestalker]

Gilsa wrote...
The nice thing about the dwarf noble origin is that it doesn't really matter if you give props to Bhelen for being master of the game or side with Harrowmont. They both make sense the way they play out. I haven't tried siding with Harrowmont on the dwarf commoner. I just can't see if there's a good reason for it since Harrowmont would keep the caste system in place, the sister would be eternally pissed at you, and you'd be keeping your family in the slums. I still am curious how it plays out, but Orzammar is sooooo long just to finish all that up. I may do it one day and take a nice long shower since I'd be feeling so dirty afterwards.

If you play a character with any family feeling, Bhelen is the candidate for dwarf commoner. I didn't feel dirty afterwards. It actually can give the happiest ending. Your nephew will become King, you become a Paragon and good things happen to your sister and Mom. Not only does Bhelen risk a lot for your sister, he is actually very good to your mother.

As for being an immoral dictator, let's see: Life is rough in Dust Town. The criminal syndicates are the only game in town down there. And in the syndicates, the stronger the boss, the better things run. Bhelen offers the hope that things might not stay so rigid as well. Harrowmount means more of the same.

[Vicious]

Do Harrowmont's quests. They are faster.



Then give the crown to Bhelen. And LOL all the way to the bank.

[Gilsa]

mousestalker wrote...

If you play a character with any family feeling, Bhelen is the candidate for dwarf commoner. I didn't feel dirty afterwards. It actually can give the happiest ending. Your nephew will become King, you become a Paragon and good things happen to your sister and Mom. Not only does Bhelen risk a lot for your sister, he is actually very good to your mother.

Aye, I'm wondering how it plays out when you go the opposite direction.  Since Rica is the person that attends the ceremony at the very end, I'm now wondering if her dialogue changes. I remember being able to tease her "hey, aren't you married to a king?" -- if siding with Harrowmont and thus blowing her chances, does the dialogue stay the same or would she have irritated comments to make instead?

For what it's worth, I tend to side with Bhelen on my non-dwarf playthroughs because in my mind, Rica is out there somewhere even though we only see her in dwarf origins. The other Aeducans are dead anyway -- pointless to avenge 'em if you're not a dwarf. Might as well give invisible Rica the better life!

[CptPatch]

If you want a good chuckle, support Harrowmont throughout, but when it's time to award the crown, give it to Bhelen. The way he goes from righteous indignation at an outsider's interference in Dwarven politics to "a wise decision" is rather humorous.

[Springwalker]

As a human you have two choices----slime (Behlan) or a basically useless king who can't do squat Harrowmont), so do one of each and get both achievements. I did find Harrowmont's first quest more interesting (The Provings) and fun, though, after all you can still go into Aeducan Thaig either way.

Modifié par Springwalker, 17 février 2010 - 08:34 .