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[Moogliepie]

Did they think she was too stereotypical to make her a lesbian love interest? She pretty much indicates her bi-nature in dialog options. Do you think they just left her out due to deadline issues? 

[Nyaore]

Because she doesn't like women?

[Cutlass Jack]

Made no sense to me either. She very directly talks about having sex with women.

[MatronAdena]

lol, no your correct, she is..and they did record all the dialog for a few characters for the same gender romances. They all got cut. Reasons behind it are yours to decide, It's been " officially" stated or more so side stepped depending on how you look at it. but there are many may many threads on this if you want to search for it that can provide answers.

[Monstruo696]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Made no sense to me either. She very directly talks about having sex with women.

Having sex with women =/= Love

I thought that was pretty common sense by now.

MatronAdena wrote...

lol, no your correct, she is..and they did record all the dialog for a few characters for the same gender romances. They all got cut. Reasons behind it are yours to decide, It's been " officially" stated or more so side stepped depending on how you look at it. but there are many may many threads on this if you want to search for it that can provide answers.

I'm pretty sure that what got cut was Shepard lines, not LI lines.

Modifié par Monstruo696, 16 février 2010 - 01:16 .

[Garuda One]

She gives even more clues threw out her whole story, I believe you can even ask her at some point. I think it was stupid on Biowares part. I think with Mass Effect 2 and lovely EA they want to focus there attention on 30 year old heterosexual males

[DaeJi]

It's an ongoing investigation.

[enormousmoonboots]

Nyaore wrote...

Because she doesn't like women?

Incorrect. She mentions that she's had female lovers before.

She should be a female romance option. Makes no sense for her to reject Femshep (especially considering all the other things Shepard has seduced).

Even if Bioware's afraid of Fox News and their concerned mothers now, I'd really like it if her dialog tree had less of a **** resolution if you're female. She hates me because she doesn't want to do me? Sure, whatever, Jack, you goddamn crazy. Heard you had a nice Paragon resolution, but I'm not gonna bother going for anyone but Tali on Manshep.

[Talogrungi]

I've no evidence to back it up, and no logic to provide as to why .. but I blame EA.

No M/M or F/F choice just smells like a decision made by an octogenarian business guy who believes that homosexuality is a crime against God or something.

Newsflash! .. if God was against homosexuality, He wouldn't have made lesbianism so sexy.

[Nyaore]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Because she doesn't like women?

Incorrect. She mentions that she's had female lovers before.

She should be a female romance option. Makes no sense for her to reject Femshep (especially considering all the other things Shepard has seduced).

Even if Bioware's afraid of Fox News and their concerned mothers now, I'd really like it if her dialog tree had less of a **** resolution if you're female. She hates me because she doesn't want to do me? Sure, whatever, Jack, you goddamn crazy. Heard you had a nice Paragon resolution, but I'm not gonna bother going for anyone but Tali on Manshep.

Huh, could have sworn I heard her tell my femshep that she didn't belong to the 'girls club'. Must have just misinterpreted it.

[Lord Atlia]

It was probably cut do to time and resources.

[addiction21]

Yup BW is so scared of FOX news and homophobes that after ME1 they will never again include homosexual relationships or characters in their games...

[Skyblade012]

I don't think she ever mentions female lovers alone, always in a group with males as well. Not for a one-on-one thing, in other words.



Besides, the few she mentioned wound up dead, if I'm not mistaken, so she probably decided she didn't much like them after all.

[PiercedMonk]

She mentions being talked into bed with a male and female before. I don't remember any point where she claims she's actually attracted to women.

[Unato]

i'm lazy but I guess I'll go find jack's afc containers and extract it. both thane and tali has their same sex VA recordings although thane is less complete then tali and neither have any dialogue in the culmination afc container which indicates the decision to not include it in the game was an early decision

[chelseaisthepan]

She told my FemShep she wasn't part of the 'girls club'.

I took that as not liking women.

[Collider]

Likely, she was either experimenting with her sexuality, or the female involvement was just something that came with have relations with males. I am sure someone like SuZe may experiment, but in the end, she sees males as sexually and romantically attractive over males. That's normal, most humans are heterosexual, as a biological imperative.

I'd also like to add that assuming that Jack would like women just because she is rather unorthodox in her manner and appearance is stereotypical thnking.

Modifié par Collider, 16 février 2010 - 01:25 .

[enormousmoonboots]

Nyaore wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Because she doesn't like women?

Incorrect. She mentions that she's had female lovers before.

She should be a female romance option. Makes no sense for her to reject Femshep (especially considering all the other things Shepard has seduced).

Even if Bioware's afraid of Fox News and their concerned mothers now, I'd really like it if her dialog tree had less of a **** resolution if you're female. She hates me because she doesn't want to do me? Sure, whatever, Jack, you goddamn crazy. Heard you had a nice Paragon resolution, but I'm not gonna bother going for anyone but Tali on Manshep.

Huh, could have sworn I heard her tell my femshep that she didn't belong to the 'girls club'. Must have just misinterpreted it.

Her final line is the 'I don't want to be in your girls' club' one, but before that she mentions both being in a triad/poly relationship and having had girlfriends. That's why the girls' club line made me go WAT. Not to mention that since there are no flirt options for Femshep, it's pretty much out of the blue, just having a conversation and then 'I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU'. The female relationship with her is pretty poorly truncated.

[Bann Duncan]

Moogliepie wrote...

Did they think she was too stereotypical to make her a lesbian love interest? She pretty much indicates her bi-nature in dialog options. Do you think they just left her out due to deadline issues? 

The story in which she indicates her 'bi-nature' is one about a couple who sexually exploited her. I'm not sure what proof that can be considered.

[DaeJi]

addiction21 wrote...

Yup BW is so scared of FOX news and homophobes that after ME1 they will never again include homosexual relationships or characters in their games...

FOX News never mentioned anything about homosexuality in Mass Effect, it only talked about what it thought the sex content was.

As for the "girls club" thing, I thought that was about Shepard trying to be friends. Nothing about that scene with that dialog made me think that either of them was thinking about romance. Maybe if what Shepard says was different, but as it stands Jack just seemed to be pulling back from a close relationship of any kind.

[Conway044]

My memory of the conversation with Jack is that when she was very young she fell in with a couple that used her for their own ends. This included both their criminal and sex acts. I'm not sure this is proof positive that Jack is actual bisexual.



Also having the heavily inked, bad grrrl criminal be the lesbian love intrest would have been really tacky.

[JamieCOTC]

Didn't make any sense to me either.  Jack is clearly bi or at least doesn't care.  Maybe that's it.  At first she doesn't care, but then if you comfort her enough she comes around and realizes that being bi is a sin.  ME2 pretty much goes out of its way to quash any F/F relationships.  I guess that means in ME3 if you are female and Liara is your LI she will have to die before you get too close to any pay-off.

I know, horse beaten beyond glue stage. 

[JamieCOTC]

Conway044 wrote...

My memory of the conversation with Jack is that when she was very young she fell in with a couple that used her for their own ends. This included both their criminal and sex acts. I'm not sure this is proof positive that Jack is actual bisexual.

Also having the heavily inked, bad grrrl criminal be the lesbian love intrest would have been really tacky.

When you ask her about relationships, she replies, "talking about a boyfriend or girlfriend, nah."  Jack may not be "technically" bi, but it is heavily implied that she has been w/ other women. 

[KumoriOokami]

Well also just because she might like some females that wouldn't automatically make femShep her type. I didn't really think they had that great of chemistry as much as I found Jack to be a really interesting character.
I thought Jack/Miranda had more chemistry than Jack/femShep.  I definitely wanted a "why don't you two kiss and make up" option to resolve their fight. ^^;

Modifié par KumoriOokami, 16 février 2010 - 01:42 .

[Collider]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Didn't make any sense to me either.  Jack is clearly bi or at least doesn't care.  Maybe that's it.  At first she doesn't care, but then if you comfort her enough she comes around and realizes that being bi is a sin.  ME2 pretty much goes out of its way to quash any F/F relationships.  I guess that means in ME3 if you are female and Liara is your LI she will have to die before you get too close to any pay-off.

I know, horse beaten beyond glue stage. 

Oh please. Like others have said, Jack may have just been confused or fooling around. This is not atypical of young people, especially those so purposefully inclined to rebel against authority and the norm as Jack is. At the very least, she's not interested in female shepard. May I remind you that Liara kisses female shepard, Samara expresses interest in female shepard, Kelly is a romance - or "fling" option for female shepard, morinth is a sexual option for female shepard, and there is the description of a lesbian relationship between morinth and a female human.