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[Kolaris8472]

We need some Lovecraftian Cone or Polyp type aliens to sex up in ME3.



The Convergent Evolution was brought to ridiculous levels in ME2. I'll buy bipeds with most of the same sensory inputs, but specifically configured sex organs? Get out, this is fanservice, make a better story/non-romantic dialog BioWare..



I mean, there are non-intercourse related ways to show affection or intimacy, I don't know why they had to go and imply that everything was all shaped up "down there".

[lyssalu]

newcomplex wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

newcomplex wrote...

How are quarians not mammals? They got hair, they give live birth, their warm blooded.

bing bing mammal.

do they have hair?

Its probable.    

Not as much as us probably.   

yeah, i thought humans were the only cognitive species who had hair.  kinda weird.

[PiercedMonk]

lyssalu wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

For reptiles and birds, most of them have a cloaca or internally stored reproductive organs.

Turians are bird-like, and Drell and Krogan are reptilian. Something to think about.

drell are mammals, actually.  

live birth and all that jazz.

There are reptiles that give live birth. There are mammals that lay eggs. Drell are neither.

[madisk]

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. From the apparent anatomy of the Quarians they seem to have all the properties of mammals on earth.

[lyssalu]

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Anyways! Some interspecies couplings likely have to rely on mutual masturbation as opposed to direct intercourse. There's the volous in Illum that inquires if the "nerual stimulation" he's purchasing will work with both volus and asari physiology.

Basically, if a being is able to recieve pleasure from physical stimulation, two beings can probably figure out a way to rub up against one another to their mutual benefit.

the neural stimulation thing is likely because the volus can't leave his suit, just sayin

[aznsoisauce]

http://www.newground...tal/view/524391

I'm just going to leave this here...

[newcomplex]

A couple things to note though.    A vagina where the groin is almost certain.    Whether theirs gonna be a penis on the male version isn't nessicary certain.     Many species of birds and fish males have ahole instead of a penis, and they just rub it on the vagina/eggs.    yea

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This means theirs a chance male salarians do not have penises.   


This arguments kind of stupid.    If the conditions on another world are similar, the resulting biological life will be similar.    Your not going to get something completely wtfbbq crazy from worlds that are similar to earth.     Thats not how evolution works.    Your going to get something with extremely similar function, and a different form, but the form will only be as different as to allow the same function.   

Even if the Acids are different, it doesn't mean that your going to get something completely diffent.   Regardless of what kinds of acids your DNA is composed of, it functions roughly the same way.   RNA has different chemical composition then DNA, but in terms of stability, it is identical, the only real different is that it has a single strand, which has nothing to do with the chemical difference.    

Modifié par newcomplex, 16 février 2010 - 04:20 .

[lyssalu]

PiercedMonk wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

For reptiles and birds, most of them have a cloaca or internally stored reproductive organs.

Turians are bird-like, and Drell and Krogan are reptilian. Something to think about.

drell are mammals, actually.  

live birth and all that jazz.

There are reptiles that give live birth. There are mammals that lay eggs. Drell are neither.

a dev described them as being "mammalian," but i see the point you're trying to make.

[Aisynia]

Joker makes an interesting comment at one point. I can't remember verbatim..



Something like "Why is this called the cockpit? Humans have bridges, asari have cockpits. Oh wait, no they don't."



I was like O.O;

[Aisynia]

By the way, it's the breastfeeding that generally distinguishes mammals from otherwise.

[Ooga600]

Humans can't naturally reproduce with any other species besides asari, and they don't even reproduce through physical intercourse.

Modifié par Ooga600, 16 février 2010 - 04:22 .

[madisk]

Aisynia wrote...

By the way, it's the breastfeeding that generally distinguishes mammals from otherwise.

And what other purpose could Tali's airbags possibly serve?

[GenericPlayer2]

Well with the Asari it seems to be some sort of mind meld, so equipment is not the issue. With Tali we don't see any details. For all we know it might be like fish/Salarians, where she lays the eggs and Shep fertilizes them.

[newcomplex]

KorPhaeron11 wrote...

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. From the apparent anatomy of the Quarians they seem to have all the properties of mammals on earth.

The names(charactarization) of those animals, are based of earth DNA, Drell might "look" like a reptile, but isnt one, since hes not from earth.

Its like saying that Asari are blue humans with tentacles on their heads.

I have yet to see a Biology book define mammal as requiring a specifc DNA structure.    

Since we have not yet discovered an aliens, its a moot point, your looking for a taxonomical classification for aliens.    No aliens have been discovered.     

classification is a construction, by the leading scientific insitution.   Nobody has defined how we classify alien life.    You are not the leading scientific institution.    

Modifié par newcomplex, 16 février 2010 - 04:27 .

[Tisiphne]

HelterSkelter89 wrote...

they all have mouths don't they?

And two legs, two arms, a neck... Maybe it's like Star Trek and the Reapers/Protheans/etc seeded the universe with DNA (with the exception of the Hanar). Hell, the only ones with more than two eyes are the Batarians.

Its classic 1960sesque Space Marine sci-fi. The aliens are either humanoid with funny foreheads, or bigger anthropomorphized  versions of Earth creatures (jellyfish, bovines...). Female aliens are weird colored and sexy.

Its just a style of science fiction, and it works. :happy:

Modifié par Tisiphne, 16 février 2010 - 04:24 .

[lyssalu]

KorPhaeron11 wrote...

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. From the apparent anatomy of the Quarians they seem to have all the properties of mammals on earth.

The names(charactarization) of those animals, are based of earth DNA, Drell might "look" like a reptile, but isnt one, since hes not from earth.

Its like saying that Asari are blue humans with tentacles on their heads.

no, it's like saying they're mammals...

they're referred to as being "huminoid" in the codex anyway, aren't they?

[madisk]

KorPhaeron11 wrote...

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. From the apparent anatomy of the Quarians they seem to have all the properties of mammals on earth.

The names(charactarization) of those animals, are based of earth DNA, Drell might "look" like a reptile, but isnt one, since hes not from earth.

Its like saying that Asari are blue humans with tentacles on their heads.

Mammals are characterized by giving live birth, breast feeding, being warm-blooded, etc. The characterization has nothing to do with the anatomy of each species. As long as species from another world follows these same traits without having anything completely bizarre/unique that would make it an unique outlier I'd say they're mammals.

[lyssalu]

Ooga600 wrote...

Humans can't naturally reproduce with any other species besides asari, and they don't even reproduce through physical intercourse.

point?

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. 

No you couldn't, the current taxonomy system is used not only by traits and appearance, but also an assumed common ancestry. They try to label and categorize species based on what ancestor they evolved from and how closely they are related.

[madisk]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

Well with the Asari it seems to be some sort of mind meld, so equipment is not the issue. With Tali we don't see any details. For all we know it might be like fish/Salarians, where she lays the eggs and Shep fertilizes them.

Uh. Tali's loyalty mission. Pay attention.

[madisk]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. 

No you couldn't, the current taxonomy system is used not only by traits and appearance, but also an assumed common ancestry. They try to label and categorize species based on what ancestor they evolved from and how closely they are related.

But we're all starstuff. /sagan

EDIT: by the way,

Since we have not yet discovered an aliens, its a moot point, your
looking for a taxonomical classification for aliens.    No aliens have
been discovered.  

Modifié par madisk, 16 février 2010 - 04:31 .

[newcomplex]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

madisk wrote...

PiercedMonk wrote...

madisk wrote...

Quarians are mammals. They reproduce the same way we do - Penis goes in vagina.

Quarians are not mammals. Salarians are not amphibians. Krogans are not suarians. Drell are not reptiles. Hanhar are not big stupid jellyfish. Regardless of any superficial similarities, if it doesn't come from Earth, than Earth's taxonomic classifications do not apply.

Why do they not apply? If you expand the classifications to cover biology of the entire galaxy instead of just one planet you could still apply the same terminology. 

No you couldn't, the current taxonomy system is used not only by traits and appearance, but also an assumed common ancestry. They try to label and categorize species based on what ancestor they evolved from and how closely they are related.

Because we have not yet discovered alien life lol.    

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

madisk wrote...
Mammals are characterized by giving live birth, breast feeding, being warm-blooded, etc. The characterization has nothing to do with the anatomy of each species. As long as species from another world follows these same traits without having anything completely bizarre/unique that would make it an unique outlier I'd say they're mammals.

You can call them mammals if you want, but you're no taxologist.