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ModerateOsprey

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 I have been having an epic sesh on DAO and was in deep an then I encountered the gauntlet - just wrecked my whole mood. Horrid, horrid, horrid. I HATE it.

Evening ruined - spent two looking for solutions and couldn't even understand them.

Bah

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DPSSOC

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What exactly is the problem you're having with the gauntlet?

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Maria Caliban

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Probably the 'everyone step on a plate' puzzle.

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ModerateOsprey

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Am stuck. I can't solve it. I have always had a hatred of this type of puzzle.



Juts wired me that's all. Was enjoying a real nice paced game and then .... grrrr.



Am gonna crash and look again with a cooler head in the morning

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Well you are entitled to you oponion, personally I wish their were more puzzles like it int he game. Either way though if you really aren't capable of figuring it out, a 5 sec consultation of the oracle will solve your problem.

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nvm

Easy solution set your party to hold position, move a party member from plate to plate until you have a faint stone in the first position, do this with a different party member until you have a solid stone in the first position, move your character onto the stone.  Lather rinse and repeat for 2nd-4th position

Modifié par DPSSOC, 16 février 2010 - 03:52 .


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Spoilers for solving puzzle below
























           Entrance
     1                   7
    2                     8
   3                       9
   4                      10
    5                    11
     6                  12

Start with
    2-9-12 (Move 9 to 4)
-> 2-4-12 (Move 2 to 7)
-> 4-7-12 (Move 12 to 1)
-> 1-4-7 (Move 4 to 5)
-> 1-5-7 (Move 1 to 8)
-> 5-7-8
End

Modifié par mosspit, 16 février 2010 - 03:53 .


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ModerateOsprey

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My brain just doesn't grok this kind of thing. Was unexpected and like I say wrecked my flow.



yes, the stand on stones puzzle. I will sit calmly tomorrow and work it out.



Nailed the ghosts OK :)

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ModerateOsprey

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mosspit - thank you :)

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mosspit

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No prob. I keep the solution on a piece of paper since my 1st playthru.

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Just look up a walkthrough.  No need to let it ruin your game, goodness.  I don't like puzzles much, either- which is to say that I'm not good at them- so I feel no qualms using a cheat.

Here, I'll copy it for you.  Don't say I never did anything for you.  LOL  The format is R=right, L=left, the number is the tile number starting from the entrance.  Have your party hold and then direct each person to the right tiles.

1.  R1, R2, L3
2. Player steps on 1st part of bridge
3. R2, L3, L6
4. Player steps on 2nd part of bridge
5. R2, R4, L6
6. R4, L1, L6
7. Player steps on 3rd part of bridge
8. R4, R5, L1
9. R5, L1, L5
10. Player crosses and bridge is solid

I love the Gauntlet, BTW.  For the emotional content, not the puzzles.

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The Gauntlet is easily one of my favorite parts of the game (again for the emotional aspects, mostly, though I do love puzzles too). But if you're not good with puzzles or simply were enjoying other aspects of the game more it can be annoying. But definitely do like others suggested and use game guides to help. It's just the equivalent of people who don't like combat turning it down to easy to speed through it. The great thing about single player games is you never have to tell anyone that you cheated on a certain part. ;)

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Sabriana

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There's also a solution on YouTube, if you prefer visual aid. I wish I had a link, but it's probably easy to search for.

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Sylvius the Mad

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The internet really has ruined puzzles in a lot of ways because people can just go look up the solutions, so gamers don't develop the skills necessary to solve them, and as such all the puzzles do is disrupt gameplay.

This is largely why no one makes straight adventure games anymore.

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Sabriana

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It's all about choices. I do grant every adult the right to choose. However, they will have to live with the consequences of their choices. Such as not developing skills in a particular area.

Some people like puzzles, some people rather put their head in scalding water.

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Word puzzles I love, number puzzles I hate. Anything else falls between those two extremes, generally speaking. I play rpgs because I like them - if I wanted to solve puzzles I'd play adventure games, or platformers. Yuck!



Worst I can recall lately is those ghastly puzzles in Mass Effect that totally ticked me off, frogger or something. Gods I hated those. Well, that and driving the stupid vehicle. The rest of the game was great, those not so much.

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Whichever dev put this puzzle in the game needs to be tied down over an ant colony and covered in honey.

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SusanStoHelit

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Oh, to the OP, there are two different solutions to the puzzle; this has been confirmed by the devs. One for console, the other for pc. The running from plate to plate thing will work, I believe, for console users. Not on the pc though.

[Edited for clarity.]

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 16 février 2010 - 10:36 .


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ModerateOsprey

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 Ah - morning has broken :happy:

Thank you so much for your solutions - 'tis appreciated.

There is a whole pile of reasons why I don't like puzzles of this type and it also meant that I had to go outside for a solution which also rattled me. I am happy to fit mods etc, but have never really liked walkthroughs.

Sylvius, I take your point, but I for one am glad there is a community and walkthroughs available just in case. If there hadn't been, I would have found a few games I have been playing and enjoying become useless as I simply cannot progress.

And as for those that don;t like combat, my heart goes out to em as there is a lot more of that in DAO, than nasty, nasty puzzles. Apart form that I totally agree about the rest of the gauntlet, I thought it was brilliant. I was immersed and in very deep and then bam, I am pratting about running game in a small window, looking at a browser and mucking about with pen and paper.

And yes, I would rather put my head in scalding water than solve these type of puzzles :)

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Sabriana wrote...

It's all about choices. I do grant every adult the right to choose. However, they will have to live with the consequences of their choices. Such as not developing skills in a particular area.
Some people like puzzles, some people rather put their head in scalding water.



Oh please!  This is a game what consequences will we suffer if we get help solving a puzzle? It's really nice that you grant everyone the right to choose though, very big of you. We all paid the money to play this game, however, how we decide to is our decision, not the game police.

This puzzle is a game breaker for a lot of people and there are lots of different solutions to it. I would rather get the answer than stop playing the game because of it.

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Burningwolf wrote...

Whichever dev put this puzzle in the game needs to be tied down over an ant colony and covered in honey.


LOL

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The internet really has ruined puzzles in a lot of ways because people can just go look up the solutions, so gamers don't develop the skills necessary to solve them, and as such all the puzzles do is disrupt gameplay.
This is largely why no one makes straight adventure games anymore.

Thanks for your concern over the state of our education.  Posted Image  However, I play a game for recreation.  I have enough futility IRL, thank you.

People also learn differently.  A verbal person is not going to become a puzzle-solver, though certainly you can improve even on weaknesses.  But again, doing so in the middle of a game you're otherwise enjoying might be a bit too much masochism for some.

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i also wish there were more puzzles in the game, though tbh i didn't like that step on plate puzzle much. the one before was cool, where you had to answer those riddles. sure some were obvious, but it still was insteresting.

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Sabriana

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DianeLyn56 wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

It's all about choices. I do grant every adult the right to choose. However, they will have to live with the consequences of their choices. Such as not developing skills in a particular area.
Some people like puzzles, some people rather put their head in scalding water.



Oh please!  This is a game what consequences will we suffer if we get help solving a puzzle? It's really nice that you grant everyone the right to choose though, very big of you. We all paid the money to play this game, however, how we decide to is our decision, not the game police.

This puzzle is a game breaker for a lot of people and there are lots of different solutions to it. I would rather get the answer than stop playing the game because of it.


That post was in answer to the post above mine.  I guess I should spell everything out and explain everything very slowly. I was disagreeing with his statement that that gamers shouldn't have access to resolutions of a puzzle.[/b] I'm actually agreeing with those who want quick answers and don't want to be frustrated by game features they dislike.

CHOICES meant choosing to go to YouTube, Gamefaqs, etc is not a bad thing, and that adults have that right. You are flaming me because I agree with you. That's a new one. Thanks. And there I thought I've seen it all.

Reading comprehension is truly an art.

Modifié par Sabriana, 16 février 2010 - 04:47 .


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Sabriana, your post cracked me up. I have gotten into arguments on here that when I examined them, realized that the person I was arguing with was arguing my points to begin with. Not everyone has the advantage of having English being their second language *grin*