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[Seaohn]

It's really really hard to decide on Virmire, but I save most of the time Kaidan. With Fem Shep always, because he's her LI. With Male Shep 50/50.

[medlish]

Ash is too annoying. Now she won't complain about Liara anymore. Kaiden is a bit whiny but that's OK.

[Xpardox91X]

 I kept Kaiden around because of his voice...

You can NEVER hate Carth Onasi.  =D

[ev0k3r]

I always save Ashley, both Keidan and Ashely are extremely annoying but Keidan wins the prize by a little - thus he gets to get blown to bits. Grats!

[biomag]

Typically commissioned officers would be used as liasion officiers, not NCOs. That's why I send Kaiden with the salarians. The gunnery chief sergeant seams to be a weapon specialist, so arming the nuke shouldn't be too hard for her.

Once the nuke is set, the geth shouldn't be able to stop it, while the AA-tower could gun the Normandy down, which would cause more losses and the whole mission of stopping Saren would be a failure. Also a bigger part of the remaining ground force is with the AA-tower. That's why I go there and why Alenko survives.

[Rix Raw]

I find it interesting how most of you make your decision knowing who dies in what situation.



My "original" choice - meaning that I didn't know the consequences - was sending Kaiden with the Salarians partly because I think he's more apt, plus I'd imagine Ashley - while being a highly trained soldier - would not respect the orders of the Salarians (being slightly anti-alien and all).



After things went wrong, I decided to come back for Ash, because she sounded like she was in bigger trouble and I seriously thought I could save Kaidan even after the "I think we both know that's not going to happen." line.



So all in all, making the decision knowing what will happen just seems wrong. Obviously you would rush to save an LI, but planning in advance to get someone killed or save someone just seems like an unfitting way to play this game.

[Seaohn]

Rix Raw wrote...

I find it interesting how most of you make your decision knowing who dies in what situation.

My "original" choice - meaning that I didn't know the consequences - was sending Kaiden with the Salarians partly because I think he's more apt, plus I'd imagine Ashley - while being a highly trained soldier - would not respect the orders of the Salarians (being slightly anti-alien and all).

After things went wrong, I decided to come back for Ash, because she sounded like she was in bigger trouble and I seriously thought I could save Kaidan even after the "I think we both know that's not going to happen." line.

So all in all, making the decision knowing what will happen just seems wrong. Obviously you would rush to save an LI, but planning in advance to get someone killed or save someone just seems like an unfitting way to play this game.

You're right. The first time, I saved Kaidan, because he was the LI. Sincerely, I thought it was possible to save both of them...

[DalishRanger]

As I actually like both Kaidan and Ashley, who lives and who dies depends on if I'm playing my male Shepard or my female Shepard.

Because I play my male Shepard more often, I end up saving Ashley more frequently. Whoever I'm going to save I leave at the nuke site, because I personally find the scene more dramatic than the tower one. Shepard's in-story reasons are because femShep thinks tech savvy Kaidan would be better to arm the bomb, while male Shep thinks Ashley deserves a chance to do something vital to a mission after getting all those years of crap assignments.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 18 février 2010 - 10:09 .

[Bedlam66]

I always Kill Ash cause she's a Racist B*&$%

[S.DeMarche]

On my first play through, when I did not already knew the potential outcome of my decisions, I sent Ash with Kirrahe and Kaiden with the bomb. The decision was simple, either could do the job of keeping communications open between the Salarians and "Shadow Team" (Great name, BTW: Kirrahe is so very dramatic). Kaiden could arm the bomb, and I figured that Kirrahe could use the extra combat experience that Ash brought to the table. The skill sets they possessed determined where I (as their commander) deployed them.

When it came to the decision on which to save, again it was easy. I listened to my troops and made the decision based on the information they gave me. Kaiden said that he was under pressure, but that he could deal with the geth forces, and then armed the bomb. Mission accomplished. At that point it became a matter of saving as many of our forces as possible, so I went to the AA tower to help Ash and Kirrahe (who very much deserved to be saved after that speech, dontcha know).

I can not bring myself to romance either Kaiden or Ash (I'm their commanding officer for crying out loud!), so that was not a factor in my decision. I do like Ash better; for some reason Kaiden just seems...neutral to me. There is nothing really wrong with him, he is just...bland. Just because he was bland did not make me feel his loss any less, though. When it came time to pick my team for the next mission, the total absence of a Kaiden silhouette in the roster just drove home the loss.

Most of my subsequent playthroughs were with me as a sentinal or biotic, so I tended to keep Ash close by and sent Kaiden to blow up with the bomb. Knowing the future kinda sucks sometimes, or at least in this case it does for Kaiden.

[Spatchmo]

I kill Ashley because if you are nice to her, it means you are in a romantic relationship with her. Killing her is the only way to end it.

[Zaxares]

Lunarionsilver wrote...

I love you Car... Kaidan.

Kinda makes me wonder if Kaidan ever says, "I'm waiting for you." in ME2.

But yeah, I almost always send Ashley with Kirrahe. They're going on a frontal assault against a heavily fortitfied enemy position; a Soldier with their heavy armor and weapons would do much better in such a role. (I'm always disappointed that you can't send MORE of your squadmates with Kirrahe, to be honest. I bet Kirrahe and his men could EASILY hold off the assault on their position if they had Ashley, Wrex and Garrus with them.)

[Jimbe2693]

Kaidan is a biotic god, Ash is just cannon fodder.

[trueKieran]

During my first playthrough, I also was sure the one going with the Salarians would die, so I sent Kaidan with them. When I finally had to make the decision, I thought if I had known that, I would have sent Ash with the Salarians, to save as many as possible. However from an RP point of few, going back to the bomb is justified too. The geth are good engineers (they have to be, else they couldn't reproduce) so you can't be 100% sure that they don't find a way to disarm the bomb which means it was all for nothing.

As for why Kaidan... I wasn't going to romance Ash, didn't like her very much either, but somehow I hated Kaidan from the start, and not because of his voice, I play the german version. Actually it feels like this unsympathy is encouraged. I played a male Shap with a rather stern look and everytime he approaches Kaidan to talk to him on the Normandy and Kaidan turns around, it feels like they are 2 seconds away from killing each other. The "lets talk" line is somewhat like "I'm just trying to find out what the crew thinks. Any input?". That sounds like "It's not that I'm interested in what you have to say, I'm asking everyone. Is there anything you have to say that's worth listening to or am I just wasting my time here?"

Modifié par trueKieran, 20 février 2010 - 12:51 .

[Markinator_123]

I wish there was an option to nuke both of them.

[Grumpiergoat]

If I actually thought that going to the towers or nuke might make a difference, I'd go to the nuke to make sure it went off.



But it doesn't. So I always let the fundamentalist racist bite it, unless my character romanced her. I'll side with "Boring" over "Morally repugnant" any day of the week. Yeah, if you take keep Ashley, you find out she's not entirely awful, but up to Virmire, she stands out as an awful human being.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

[quote]S.DeMarche wrote...


When it came to the decision on which to save, again it was easy. I listened to my troops and made the decision based on the information they gave me. Kaiden said that he was under pressure, but that he could deal with the geth forces, and then armed the bomb. Mission accomplished. At that point it became a matter of saving as many of our forces as possible, so I went to the AA tower to help Ash and Kirrahe (who very much deserved to be saved after that speech, dontcha know).

/quote]

I've helped the one at the bomb in both playthroughs, and Kirrahe always lives. Whether he lives or dies does not depend on that decision, but on other things you did earlier.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

For me I sent Kaiden with the Salarians because I expected him to die and I hated him for being boring but then the double back conflict occurs and i begrudgingly chose to go to the tower where kaiden was because it was my mission to make sure those salarians came out okay. It was literally a case of weighing the consequences. Although really why couldn't you have had your other 2 squad members back up the nuke user in the mako? They coulda jumped off the waterfall and had a sweet cutscene with the bomb going off behind them (Yes I know that's not how nukes work)

[S.DeMarche]

Shinian2 wrote...

S.DeMarche wrote...

When it came to the decision on which to save, again it was easy. I listened to my troops and made the decision based on the information they gave me. Kaiden said that he was under pressure, but that he could deal with the geth forces, and then armed the bomb. Mission accomplished. At that point it became a matter of saving as many of our forces as possible, so I went to the AA tower to help Ash and Kirrahe (who very much deserved to be saved after that speech, dontcha know).

I've helped the one at the bomb in both playthroughs, and Kirrahe always lives. Whether he lives or dies does not depend on that decision, but on other things you did earlier.

Yep...You are right. I totally forgot that you saved Kirrahe earlier when you take out the geth air support, before you even go into Saren's fortress. I just had it in my brain that since I sent Ash with Kirrahe, going to save her meant that I would be saving Kirrahe and his forces, too.

*edit to fix misquote

Modifié par S.DeMarche, 21 février 2010 - 11:06 .

[Nokterne]

Markinator_123 wrote...

I wish there was an option to nuke both of them.

This.

[melkathi]

I'm on my first playthrough and stuck at this decission.
I don't really like either character, so that disn't helping.
I am not romancing anyone (don't find any of the romance options appealing). So can't base the decission on that.

So I decided to send Kaidan with the Salarians - he's an officer so I guess he'll be better suited for a mission outside the team.
I want to fight at the AA guns (did it last night and I loved the Saren battle there).
That means though leaving Ashley to die... and though she's my least favourid character in any bioware game, there is one thought in my mind "Damn it, I didn't save you from Eden Prime so you can die on me now, girl!"

[Schroing]

I always kill Ash, just so I don't have to see her face anymore.

[Blue Ninja]

So far, I've always killed Kaidan. This time through, however, I messed up my Ashley romance early on in the game (not really on purpose, but I rolled with it), and decided I'd let Kaidan live so I could see him in Mass Effect 2. This way, I also have a Shepard who's not romantically involved with anyone to import into Mass Effect 2.

I'm going to send Kaidan along with the salarians, for story purpose only. It never made a lot of sense that the Normandy could pick up the salarians from the tower, but not the teammate you sent with them. Unless the salarians pulled out early, that is.

Modifié par Blue Ninja, 21 février 2010 - 10:26 .