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[wokietokie]

I just played through that part a while ago, my first playthrough btw.

I sent Ashley with Kirrahe, I did this having the idea that the one I sent with Kirrahe would die.
she just killed Wrex(didn't have enough charm points), and I really liked him. I just don't really like her, she's like that evil part of your conscience, and Kaidan's the good part, like that part with the Rachni Queen. plus I thought her combat experience would help Kirrahe's troops. that, and that I'm romancing Liara for this playthrough.

so I had Kaidan and Liara with me, I went straight to that main building before taking care of those air drones(?) at the right part, so Kirrahe died(Ashley radios in something like "Kirrahe's down.").

Kaidan's a the nuke site, Ashley's at the AA Tower, when it was at the part where I had to choose which one to save, or before that, not sure, Ashley confirms that "Kirrahe's dead.". so that just reaffirmed the decision that I had to begin with to let Ashley die since Kirrahe's already dead anyway.

it wasn't really about Kaidan, but at about how much I dislike, and don't need Ashley for this playthrough.

Modifié par wokietokie, 24 mars 2010 - 07:33 .

[Lougi]

Always saved Ashley on my fem Shep for some reason. I just never liked Kaidan, not that Ashley is any more likable IMO. The shoe is on the other foot this time, though. My male Shep is saving Kaidan this time. Gonna go see the AA tower while I'm at it too, never done that side.

[Eternz]

I always had a tough time choosing between them, Kaiden used to annoy me along with Ashleys racism so on my main transfer to ME2 before it came out i let Kaiden die simply because i thought Ashleys family wouldn't cope without her, Kaiden never really spoke about anyone so i figured he had nothing to lose.

On my most recent 100% ME1 completion for ME2 and possibly 3 i was still wondering who should die, i didn't like the way Ashley reacted on Horizon so her life was already in questionable hands, then during one conversation i had forgotten about she started going on about God and Religion and Poetry and it was like 'Whoa **** forgot about that, goodbye Ashley.'

So i saved Kaiden and i much prefer our encounter on Horizon he's a little more understanding i found.

Modifié par Eternz, 24 mars 2010 - 09:20 .

[binaryemperor]

I usually save Kaiden. Don't know why. Ashley has a family and whatnot, Kaiden does not have a penny to his name...



I think that is why I saved Kaiden. He has absolutely no legacy whatsoever, which would seem like more the reason for him to be sacrificed... but I just could not let him fade utterly from existence.

[danitiwa]

I saved Ash. :I I don't really like either of them that much so I let Kaidan die because I never use him on missions, and he sort of annoys me, but then like people reason Ash is racist, and annoys me more.



It just seemed more fair because Kaidan shouldn't have armed the bomb so surely. He could have just waited. But that would be anticlimatic I guess.

[Kalderis]

I saved Ashley simply because Kaidan bored the living hell out of me. Ashley wasn't exactly my favourite character and i found her racism and blind ignorance very annoying. But she provoked a reaction within me, got me interested as to how she got to that blinded mindset. She was a successful character.

[Slayer299]

I have just never found myself warming to Kaiden's character, and quite frankly, I found Ash to be a lot more interesting. As far as aliens go, she seemed to just dislike and not trust them (No "All Aliens must DIE" attitude) and even this wasn't written in stone after a while, so I've saved her every playthrough with either my MaleShep or FemShep (2 male & 2 female).

The only times I've ever used Kaiden is in the beginning when I don't have a  choice, but as soon as Tali or Wrex are around it's 'bye bye Kaiden!' and there he'll stay on the Normandy for the rest of the game.

Modifié par Slayer299, 25 mars 2010 - 02:54 .

[Bluko]

I always go to the nuke site, as I will explain.

From all the various previews that came out about Mass Effect, it seemed very likely that some party member(s) could die on Virmire, so I made sure to save often. This made it possible for me to play out all the scenarios. Strangely I've never messed up saving Wrex, I'm not even sure how you can unless you rush thru the game and or don't bother with Charm/Intimidate.

Anyways my gut reaction has always been to send Kaidan with the Salarians and have Ash arm the nuke. Firstly Kaidan volunteered, and he'd also works better with aliens. Sure Ash might be more useful as a frontline Soldier and Kaidan's tech expertise would be better for arming the bomb, but it plays out better having Ash with the nuke almost always.

When the Geth arrive Ash not really sure what she's doing; panics and arms the nuke. Kaidan not being a frontline soldier would get overwhelmed by all the Geth at the AA tower and dies as a result. This to me makes the most sense in terms of what has to happen.

Now when it's the other way around with Kaidan at the nuke and Ash at the tower... I can just never save Kaidan at the nuke site because it looks so silly to pick up a wounded Kaidan on your back especially if you are playing a male shepard. To be honest it's almost laughable. Saving Ash at the AA tower is acceptable though, it saves more people, Saren confrontation is more dramatic, and Kaidan gets a heroic death scene.

Still ultimately it seems to me most important to make sure the nuke site is secure. Even though there should be no way to disarm the nuke the Geth may be capable of doing so with their technical knowledge. Even if they can't disarm what's to stop them from moving it? It's too risky realistically to leave the nuke unsecured. Plus why would Saren go to the AA tower just to confront Shepard? If Saren knew the AA tower was a distraction, you would think he would go to the nuke site, kill whoever was there personally.

Not only that, but I prefer to go to the Nuke site because the fight there is a little more challenging what with the Geth Prime and all. The AA tower is kind of too easy.

Lastly I usually save Ash because it seems the right thing to do. Kaidan doesn't really have a family or much of anything to live for except some long lost love. Kaidan also seems much more at peace when you let him know he's probably not going to make it. Ash on the other hand has a family that kind of depends on her, and she has yet to clear her family's name. Plus letting Ash martyr herself as a result just doesn't seem quite right. Kaidan is also older so in a sense Ashley in comparison has yet to have lived a life as much as Kaidan.

Ultimately I like both characters; Kaidan for his cool and calm outlook on things as an L2 Biotic and Ashley for her spunk as a female Marine. Personally I prefer Kaidan as a team-mate since I like to play as the default Shepard which is a Soldier, so Kaidan's Tech/Biotic abilities are really handy.

Yet I always save Ashley cause it seems wrong to let her character die.

(Regardless of whether you are romancing her or not as well. I prefer Liara's romance and I like to get my Captain Kirk on with my Shepard. )


Still it's one of hardest choices I've had to make in a RPG, and for that I have to give props to Bioware. The fact that you actually care something for the characters shows just how well a crafted game it is. Guess that's why I always like Bioware games so much.

[DragonShepard138]

I saved Ashley once, and Kaiden twice. Kaiden fits my playstyle better.

[Oogrooq]

I always save Kaiden. He's pretty much useless as a squadmate but my shep's love interest. Plus, Ashley is a racist so-and-so. Every time she opens her mouth I start wishing I had the insult options I'm thinking/saying to my computer.

[INSAN3SOLDIERN]

It really depends on what gender I'm playing as. Though the opposite would be interesting from a role playing perspective as well.

[danitiwa]

Pssh, I don't even want to romance Kaiden, he's that boring. :/

[jonnyblueballs]

Kaidan wasn't very interesting to me and i've heard his voice enough already in KotOR, Ashley on the other hand is quite hot. But from the RPG perspective, Ashley is more valuable being the only soldier in my group. Also, she was with the nuke.

[jonnyblueballs]

Bluko wrote...

Anyways my gut reaction has always been to send Kaidan with the Salarians and have Ash arm the nuke. Firstly Kaidan volunteered, and he'd also works better with aliens. Sure Ash might be more useful as a frontline Soldier and Kaidan's tech expertise would be better for arming the bomb, but it plays out better having Ash with the nuke almost always.

Don't forget that the Salarians are just a diversion. You must make sure your own squad gets to the position, so you need firepower, especially if not playing as a soldier yourself. Saving Salarian lives is a secondary objective.

[grenadetaggav]

i wish i could kill them both and recruit kirrahe instead but its usually ash that dies as i dislike her more

[Dreadstruck]

Ashley works with salarians just fine.

[RyrineaNara]

I usually get Kaidan, because he goes well with Biotic's abilities.

[angela83]

I always save Kaidan because i prefer him to Ashley.

[RollaWarden]

On my first playthrough, I had no idea what was going to happen on Virmire, and was loving every morally agonizing minute of it.

1.  I had been romancing Ashley.  My Earth-born war hero soldier Shepard was just naturally drawn to her, her love of family, and her loyalty.  I figured Shepard would fall for this "family girl" hard; Ash's tough, independent, but has a vulnerable side.  Like the Sarah story.  My Shepard's deeply in love with Ash, and won't cheat in ME2 (haven't started it yet.

2.  On Virmire, I sent Ash to the tower.  "Here's a chance," I thought, "to get Ash some squad command experience.  To give her a real chance to restore the Williams family name.  Plus it'll be good for her to have to work with aliens.

"Kaiden's the tech expert; he should go arm the nuke."

3.  When it was time to go save one, I chose Ash.  The romance played only a small part.  Instantly, I surmised, "Save many (Ash and Salarians), or save one."  I chose to sacrifice the one to save the many.  STIV Spock would have been proud.  And yes, my Shepard would probably blow up the galaxy to save Ashley.

So to answer your question, I RP'ed the decision.  It's what my Shepard would have done.  Liked both characters.  I still feel like I made the right decision, and will do so again during my 2nd playthrough (to get to level 60 before ME2).

[zwamhoff]

Fark Kaidan. He always struck me as a whiny ****..

[Rive Caedo]

I usually save Ashley only for the reason that anytime I hear Kaiden I want to play KOTOR

[Siansonea]

I discovered when I imported my Shepards into ME2 that I had saved Kaidan and let Ashley die every time. I hadn't intended to do that, but that's how it worked out. I always feel like Ashley is expendable, she's kind of a grunt, and doesn't have any really valuable expertise. Kaidan is a biotic and an officer, so a lot of resources has gone into training him, and human biotics are rare enough. It's kind of been boring though, since now every time I play Horizon I see Kaidan and never see Ashley.

[SuperMedbh]

I RP'd it, too. My paragon first character felt that it was a toss up, but the nuke had to be protected (I know Kaiden says it's failsafed, but Geth are fair good at hacking). And in the end, Ashley got what she wanted: a heroic death in the line of duty that no doubt redeemed her family name. As deeply religious as she was, she probably didn't have that many objections to martyrdom. Or so Shepard doubtlessly told herself afterward in order to feel better about the whole thing.



On the other hand, my renegade BoyShep was romancing Ashley, so he was all "Hang in there, Kaiden. Got to make sure I have a date for Ilos night."